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Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia |OT|
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Linkstrikesback
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I'm a hundred times more invested in the story than I ever was fates, that's for sure. And the localisation is certainly part of that.
I suspect this will end up my favourite of the three 3DS games, but I should probably finish it before declaring that!
If you mean pair up, yes, and good riddance. Absolutely hate that more than any other addition to the 3DS games.
Me too. I hope it returns in future games. My only issue is it isn't an option if you get your main lord killed, you get booted to the last time you saved. I hope they fix that in the next game.
Almost at the end of Act 2 and the game hasn't really been challenging at all (never had to even use the turnwheel, let alone lose someone), but I don't really mind. It's been fun just hopping from map to map and seeing the story (which is surprisingly engaging) play out.
Playing on Normal though, but Conquest on normal was pure insanity in comparison
Playing on Normal though, but Conquest on normal was pure insanity in comparison
I've gotten so used over the years to resetting when a character dies that that I keep forgetting to use the turnwheel.
I'm still hoping he gets better, but he only gained hp when he promoted to sage and his attack and speed is still pitiful. On the bright side, Forsyth turned out okay and he's supposed to be bad.
Hard hasn't been that hard either even on the parts that seem to give people trouble, but I suspect I'm overleved even though I haven't really gone out of my way to grind.
I'm still hoping he gets better, but he only gained hp when he promoted to sage and his attack and speed is still pitiful. On the bright side, Forsyth turned out okay and he's supposed to be bad.
Hard hasn't been that hard either even on the parts that seem to give people trouble, but I suspect I'm overleved even though I haven't really gone out of my way to grind.
I've been playing this game since yesterday and I'm at Act 2. Awakening was my first FE (and tactical RPG) ever, and I skipped Fates due to the asinine story and the repeat of the kids system. The story of this FE is so much better than Awakenings, but I'm finding combat slightly dull. I don't think it's because of the map since I like Awakening's, but I think it's because of the lack of the weapon triangle.
Now time for list (this will change after each act):
Best Party: Celica's
Best Design: Boey
Best Unit: Kliff
Best Character: Mae
Best Villain: Berkut
Worst Design: Mae
Worst Character: Boey
Worst Unit: Boey
Now time for list (this will change after each act):
Best Party: Celica's
Best Design: Boey
Best Unit: Kliff
Best Character: Mae
Best Villain: Berkut
Worst Design: Mae
Worst Character: Boey
Worst Unit: Boey
Agree on all the bolded. Boey is disappointing me greatly; perhaps expected more from him. Thankfully, Mae and Genny are carrying my entire team. Don't want to image when both parties become one. Mae and Kliff will become my main units.
DecoReturns
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You should play Conquest. Its the most fun Fire Emblem to play.
Naw, Weapon Triangle didn't matter at all in Awakening. The only time it really matters is early chapters since your stats are low, even then its not much.
Fates on the other hand did have a somewhat meaningful Weapon Triangle playing in the higher difficulties.
Yep, Genny is an excellent unit too, but Mae destroys everything on her way. Compared to Kilff though, she's very fragile in terms of defense.
Bearded Guy on Celica's party has been pretty bad as well :/ I expected more from him, considering Celica had to go to great lengths to recruit him. Turns out, she's much more capable than he is.
By the way, I forgot to mention how great the presentation, sound and animation is in this game. If there's a game I have to call 'a labor of love', it's this game.
To be honest, I used to think I'm the type that doesn't care about story in games as long as the gameplay is there. Until Fates came out late in Europe and instead we got Bravely Second early, and I needed something to play so I got it. I LOVED the gameplay, I never got into an RPG before like I did in that game, but the story was so utterly uninspired and the script was so bad that I couldn't finish it. Hearing the story and script in Fates were also bad, I thought I just couldn't make myself go through a similar experience again.
That being said, I love the strategy/tactical genre, so I guess I'll have to try Conquest one day.
mullet2000
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That's 8-4 for you. Best in the biz.
Indeed, the production values of this game are amazing. Gratz to IS for doing this remake. Of the three 3DS Fire Emblem, so far this is my favorite.
As for Conquest, it is an amazing ride in Lunatic/Classic. People say Radiant Dawn is hard, but personally, I consider Conquest to be even more harder. The music, those maps, all those resets. That was quite an experience... as long as you ignore the story.
I changed him into a Mercenary because he was so behind on speed (base speed of 3 if I recall), but it doesn't really matter. He's so far behind everyone else when he joins that he's going nowhere unless you grind him up.
I'm currently in Chapter 4 and man.. Celica's party is annihilating Alm's at this point. The two Falcon Knights you get in the former's route obliterate everything.
toastyToast
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Can Alm class change? Everyone's changed at this point including Lukas who had to be the highest level.
I made him a Soldier, but he never gets particularly good. He does have solid HP, tho'.
I read that Mercenary is his best class since it fixes his low speed some what.
Aveyn Knight
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Yeah, but only when you reach Act 4.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Game is really good so far.
I'm liking the beginnings of the story.
Just changed
Tobin to Archer
Kliff to Mage
Faye to Pegasus Knight
Gray to Mercenary.
I'm liking the beginnings of the story.
Just changed
Tobin to Archer
Kliff to Mage
Faye to Pegasus Knight
Gray to Mercenary.
salamander150
Member
That's exactly how I changed my villagers! Love all of them except I wish I had one more mage class in my army.
wild wild rice
Member
Same except I turned Faye to a cleric, only to save and then immediately recruit another cleric in the same damn room.
Whoops. I'll get a Pegasus knight eventually...
Mage Kliff is my MVP thus far. Because I didn't know how the world map worked, I ended up with a skirmish with a shitton of both sorcerers and cavaliers. I gave Kliff a shield and he cleaned them all up. Once he got Excalibur, dude became a critting machine.
I've been trying to feed Boey because I like his design, but Mae is way better.
I've been trying to feed Boey because I like his design, but Mae is way better.
So uh... my Tobin has 11 speed as a lvl 9 villager lol.
Should I make him or Kliff my mage? I saw someone mentioning earlier that Tobin makes a better mage, but I also really want an archer.
Edit: Also, people keep mentioning Cleric for Faye, but I've already got Silque?? Why should Faye be a Cleric as well?
Should I make him or Kliff my mage? I saw someone mentioning earlier that Tobin makes a better mage, but I also really want an archer.
Edit: Also, people keep mentioning Cleric for Faye, but I've already got Silque?? Why should Faye be a Cleric as well?
Kliff has better spells. Faye gets Physic as a Cleric, while Silque gets Warp. With how big the maps are, you want Physic.
Awesome, thanks for the help. Been a while since I played Gaiden and I don't think I even upgraded my units well when I played that haha.
If I wanna play Permadeath + hard mode, do I need to be really thoughtful about my promotions and class changes? Trying to get a feel for how hard "hard" is here. Normal is typically way too easy, but I would rather not have to plan the progression of my units too far in advance. Thanks!
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Yeah I just got the message that I could change his class.
Should I change it ASAP?
I know it's recommended for villagers but I don't know about non-villagers.
I also have no idea how many promotions this game has. Does it have one upgraded class or two like Radiant Dawn?
Thanks. I've been playing the series for years myself too.
Aaronrules380
Member
According to Serenes, it seems the magic classes can promote once and the physical classes promote twice
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So that 'boss' at the end of Act I
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with the Draco Shield standing on a Healing Point... did anyone manage to defeat him before he ran away? He's not supposed to be defeatable... right?
DecoReturns
Member
You can beat him. the game hints what made him flee in case you wanted to be bold
You can cheese him.
If you get Slayde to under half health, he'll run towards the nearest supply point. And you can manipulate your unit's positions so that he'll go towards the supply point by taking a lap around the eastern half of the castle. And then you can change your unit's positions so once he almost finishes making the lap he'll run the other way. Repeat, and you'll have an infinite amount of time to kill the boss.
I'm in a similar position. At the
Desert Stronghold
Sylvan Shrine
Aaronrules380
Member
Some of these plot "twists" are really obvious lol
Act 4 celica spoilers
Act 4 celica spoilers
Did anyone NOT call the identity of the masked knight lol
Faye as a Pegasus Knight is doing okay for me. I love sending her and Clair off to bully some enemies for me. Meanwhile Valbar is a champ. I love when their arent any magic units around he can just live forever. btw did i miss actually recruiting the other two sisters? Can i go back and get them?
DecoReturns
Member
I love how DLC is just hidden in the menus.
No elaborate idea to explain it this time. Although I'm sad that about no Anna
No elaborate idea to explain it this time. Although I'm sad that about no Anna
Aaronrules380
Member
At least it's not the Act 4 Celica swamp maps
I kind of like that they kept in line with the original game in terms of not including Anna - this is probably the last time there'll be a game in the series without her.