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FOX Engine vs CryEngine 3 - Konami's Office Room Recreated In CryEngine 3
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JohnnySasaki86
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This thread is pointless unless you have side by side comparison shots. I have no idea which one looks better. They look the same to me, without any comparison shots.
Fried Food
Banned
the part where the swivel chairs meet the ground looks bad. Fox engine is really impressive.
What You couldnt name and FOX Engine is doing is called physically based rendering and is used in CryEngine since version 2, with 3 having it refined, with version 3.5 pushing asset creation with physically based rendering in mind.
You can read a little about it here from Crysis 3 production:
http://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/14947849/fmx2013-c3-art-tech-donzallaz-sousa
PDF: http://www.crytek.com/download/fmx2013_c3_art_tech_donzallaz_sousa.pdf
CryEngine 3 is far from aging, its exactly the opposite, every year they push it further.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
I think it's much less that CryEngine3 is lacking and more that the dude just didn't take advantage of certain features of the engine to make the comparison more apt.
CryEngine3 is capable of far better and more realistic looking things even with something as bland as an office demo.
CryEngine3 is capable of far better and more realistic looking things even with something as bland as an office demo.
BTW if we are talking about office environments rendering than for example french engineering company ENODO is using CE3 for this purpose.
In motion: 1:24
http://vimeo.com/64654077
http://www.crytek.com/blog/gaming-meets-architecture-with-enodo-and-cryengine-3
In motion: 1:24
http://vimeo.com/64654077
http://www.crytek.com/blog/gaming-meets-architecture-with-enodo-and-cryengine-3
BTW if we are talking about office environments rendering than for example french engineering company ENODO is using CE3 for this purpose.
In motion: 1:24
http://vimeo.com/64654077
http://www.crytek.com/blog/gaming-meets-architecture-with-enodo-and-cryengine-3
Those look exactly like the "Oprah" offices in the Trump Tower.
OldAsUrSock
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Both the FUCKS engine and the CryMoar engine render dreadfully sterile and boring office environments.
Even though lacking in resolution and AA, Last of Us had far more realistic and impressive offices.
Not an office but you get the idea.
LOL
TalesOfWin
Banned
offices are sterile and boring unless you work for mojang.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Fox Engine seems to have lighting down pat, as does Luminous.
Are there any shots/demos of CryEngine 3 that show off a similar level of realistic lighting that comes off as mundanely real and not WHIZZBANG SATURATION!
Are there any shots/demos of CryEngine 3 that show off a similar level of realistic lighting that comes off as mundanely real and not WHIZZBANG SATURATION!
Oyashrio-Sama
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It... Doesn't look that good...
That doesn't mean they've made no good games.
You can objectively acknowledge a thing's quality without liking that thing yourself, you know.
Both the FUCKS engine and the CryMoar engine render dreadfully sterile and boring office environments.
Even though lacking in resolution and AA, Last of Us had far more realistic and impressive offices.
Not an office but you get the idea.
I don't get the idea at all actually.
This looks terrible in comparison. The added imperfections aren't making the scene look more convincing than either FOX Engine or CryEngine 3 examples, it is immediately apparent that it's from a game, and I doubt rendering it at a higher resolution would change that.
It's not really the engine's fault that the actual offices happen to be sterile and boring.
I love Half Life, but Crysis gunplay is on another level.
Edit: I forgot that we live in a world where people think Crysis is a lousy game hidden behind a benchmarking tool that no computer ever can actually run.
4 posts above Yours? And You really have to remind Yourself how lighting looks in MGS V and how it looks in Crysis 3 or 2.
MGS V: http://imgur.com/a/ZUTKv#0
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Love such comments. So show Fox Engine high res shots then
People really overestimate quality of post-card shots.Yeah I think it's fair to mention this was done using the latest public CryEngine 3 version (3.4.5) and not the version used for Crysis 3; which has yet to go public. Which is obviously a bit more evolved.
i died reading that.
OldAsUrSock
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It is a shame that people dislike the Crysis series so much.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Wish for a Far Cry 1 remake, that was Crytek at it's best.
akachan ningen
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They don't make FPSs at all.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
Thanks
The only real talk here is that Crysis is still amazing even after the aliens and probably the best sandbox shooter before it.
Meanwhile at KojiPro they last released two brainmeltingly stupid MGS games that arent nearly as fun to play as a game from 1998.
I'd rather take the mediocrity of either Crysis 2 or 3 over MGS4.
Well people bought into the fud about Crysis just being a pretty tech demo with no substance and unfortunately Crytek has been going downhill since.
It's the jaggies in the first shot and the light halos on the picture frames for me. And then the close-ups of the chairs shows polygon/"jagged" edges for me. While Crytek may be showing HD it just doesn't look as good as Kojipro's renders.
But then again Kojipros renders didn't show up in HD either so until then it's a pretty bad comparison/war to fight.
Pretty good attempt for one guy trying to recreate the scene from the low res images that KojiPro released, with the limited and outdated free Cryengine SDK. But it really doesn't look as realistic, I have never really like the look of Cryengine 3 the lighting and shading always looks a bit off IMO. KojiPro of course had a massive advantage of having the actual location on hand to get high detail photographic and lighting reference plus full source access to fine tune lighting and shaders.
My biggest issue with the Crysis series is that it made some people think the word "crisis" is supposed to be spelled with a "y". Just irks the hell out of me when I see people unironically posting comments about, say, "the economic crysis". -_-
Warm Machine
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All rendering engines are essentially the same. The features all come from the same white papers. End of the day: good art in, good art out.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
The CryEngine3 is too shiny for my taste.
I understand that was the initial complaint for the Fox Engine when it displayed foliage for the first time.
But there is discernable difference between the two.
I understand that was the initial complaint for the Fox Engine when it displayed foliage for the first time.
But there is discernable difference between the two.
Ironmanxrs2
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This is like the age old question; blondes or brunettes?
Answer: YES!
Answer: YES!
He's dennis, the most famous graphic enthusiast on gaf and probably the world, crysis is the best for him because of how it looks as he says it's the best loking game ever, don't ever EVER listen to the man about the "game" part of "videogame"
Neither the fox engine nor the crysis shots are all that impressive to be honest. When the fox shots were posted I almost thought it was a joke topic how everyone was saying how amazing they looked....of course they looked close to the real pictures, when they were fucking 240x160 pixels, anything can be made to look realistic.
Even then, the backs of the chairs were modeled with haste, which made me wonder why they even bothered to do such a demonstration. It was almost like a mod project posting their one room they just cobbled together as a proof of concept "map". Any modern engine could match, or exceed those shots. They should just be posting pictures from the actual game environments since they were given more care than throwing the same low poly cloned chair model around a desk.
In summary:
Even then, the backs of the chairs were modeled with haste, which made me wonder why they even bothered to do such a demonstration. It was almost like a mod project posting their one room they just cobbled together as a proof of concept "map". Any modern engine could match, or exceed those shots. They should just be posting pictures from the actual game environments since they were given more care than throwing the same low poly cloned chair model around a desk.
In summary:
Maybe there's a good reason why most people dislike the Crysis Series so much.
RedAssedApe
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Dictator93
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This is not really true...techniques base themselves primarily on white papers.. but which techniques are implemented.. and how they are is pretty darn different from game engine to game engine.
Yep, there are tons of tricks and optimization that devs have to apply to be able to even render the desire feature in reasonable framerate. There is also art creation factor that will support those techniques and compatibility with other existing rendering features.
Also, every engine has different distribution of G-buffer in deferred rendering.
And additionally CryEngine has ton of unique features that were made solely by Crytek engineers, like pixel-accurate displacement mapping, water caustics, 3D tessellated vegetation, they also create all environment geometry with voxels and then covert them to polys.
Poetic.Injustice
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Both the FUCKS engine and the CryMoar engine render dreadfully sterile and boring office environments.
Even though lacking in resolution and AA, Last of Us had far more realistic and impressive offices.
Not an office but you get the idea.
I love how you keep preaching about The Last of Us, Dennis.
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