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[Emperor Bohe]

I didn't know email addresses that end with "@googlemail.com" were a thing

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

KojiPro has made 0 good games, CryTek has made a phenomal first person shooter. In my mind it's pretty clear who's winning

Now that is a hyperbole.

 

[FACE]

Even as a joke, to say they've made 0 good games is a little bit too much.

I don't like Metal Gear.

 

[EatChildren]

Is that fucking chromatic aberration?

 

[Gestault]

Wasn't the impressive part of the FOX engine render that it was rendered automatically through a photograph and not manually done?

I don't think that's correct.

 

[sp3000]

Valve says hello.

You have pathetic standards if you think HL2 is a good FPS

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Wasn't the impressive part of the FOX engine render that it was rendered automatically through a photograph and not manually done?

What? Next gen to be the cheapest ever, and with the shortest dev cycles.

 

[Gestault]

Without the comparable images from FOX its tough to tell, although I definitely think FOX might be better with the dynamic lighting.

Were you comparing the "dynamic lighting" between static images?

 

[CheesecakeRecipe]

You have pathetic standards if you think HL2 is a good FPS

lol dat salt

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

You have pathetic standards if you think HL2 is a good FPS

 

[KKRT00]

Is Ryse son of Rome using the Cryengine 3 in anyway?

Yes, they are using next iteration of CE3, something beyond Crysis 3 CE 3.5 SDK.

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Is that fucking chromatic aberration?

I dont see it and for i know CE 3.3 SDK does not have chromatic aberration implemented.

---edit--- Ok i was wrong, You can add chromatic aberration in current version of SDK. And i see it now lol

 

[Dennis]

Really? Crysis?

 

[stktt]

Is that fucking chromatic aberration?

Welcome to next gen's bloom effect.

 

[i-Lo]

In the original one, the lighting was fantastic but there was noticeable aliasing. This modder definitely did a fantastic job but shadow dithering is a major issue.

Still kudos to him for his work.

 

[Thorakai]

I can't stop looking at the ceiling. It looks so off to me and looks like there was extra detail added for no reason.

 

[Sky Chief]

I don't like Metal Gear.

So I guess then that you are the arbiter of everything that is good?

 

[Akira_83]

lol @ crysis

game was good until

Spoiler

all those dumb fucking aliens and flying octopus robots ripped off of The Matrix

which unfortunately encompasses almost half the game

Crysis is 10/10 as a tech demo

and 5/10 as a game

real talk

 

[FACE]

So I guess then that you are the arbiter of everything that is good?

I thought we were past having to add "in my opinion" at the end of every post, guess not.

 

[Not Spaceghost]

I don't think that's correct.

Yeah I might be misinterpreting this quote. Obviously I didn't mean a single photograph I was referring to photoscanning objects.

The practical implementation of this method of rendering involves a huge amount of work. Kojima Productions is taking the 'photo' aspect of photo-realism very seriously. Wherever possible the development team is using 3D photo capture, laser capture and motion capture to create assets that are as detailed and realistic as possible. In-game objects are photographed in real life from a wide range of angles, and then those photographs are compiled into a 3D model using a program called Photoscan.

Textures, meanwhile, are photographed with high exposure in order to preserve their linear light information, which gives a more accurate representation of how the human eye sees objects as opposed to how a camera lens sees objects, which if we take the term literally is actually beyond photo-realism. These textures are then cleaned up by the studio's artists and imported into programs such as Marvelous Designer a complex clothing design tool used to build character attire in layers, including accurate and malleable rendering of creases, folds, stitching and so forth.

 

[Dennis]

lol @ crysis

game was good until

Spoiler

all those dumb fucking aliens and flying octopus robots ripped off of The Matrix

which unfortunately encompasses almost half the game

Crysis is 10/10 as a tech demo

and 5/10 as a game

real talk

real dumb talk

 

[Fehyd]

Were you comparing the "dynamic lighting" between static images?

We know that the FOX Engine has dynamic lighting, I was just referring to the lighting vs, the prebaked lighting in the other photos.

Calm yourself.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

I thought we were past having to add "in my opinion" at the end of every post, guess not.

Because that would have helped your argument...

 

[Manbig]

Did Koji Pro make the finest FPS ever made?

No that was CryTek. They later lost their way but you can't take Crysis from them.

This isn't by CryTek by the way.

Wait... You're serious here? I guess you people do exist.

 

[Gestault]

For the sake of odd, pointless comparison, here's a shunk-down version of the recreations:

 

[FACE]

Because that would have helped your argument...

I jokingly replied to a guy that said Crytek couldn't make games, if you look closely at my post you'll even see that I've added an "" at the end. I wasn't trying to make an argument.

 

[Gestault]

We know that the FOX Engine has dynamic lighting, I was just referring to the lighting vs, the prebaked lighting in the other photos.

Calm yourself.

It was an honest question, which apparently still needs to be asked. You aren't able to tell if a lighting engine is dynamic or not based on a still image. Are you under the impression that Cryengine isn't capable of dynamic lighting?

 

[sp3000]

lol dat salt

I develop using UE.

How does a shitposter like you even get an account on this forum

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Wait... You're serious here? I guess you people do exist.

Lots of people know that Crysis is a great game. It's not even a niche thing, the metacritic score is 91.
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And yeah I see this thread is more about the people who makes the engines than about the dude's work

 

[CheesecakeRecipe]

I develop using UE.

But LOL DAT SALT

How does a shitposter like you even get an account on this forum

Shhh no tears

only dreams now

 

[Manbig]

Lots of people know that Crysis is a great game. It's not even a niche thing, the metacritic score is 91.
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And yeah I see this thread is more about the people who makes the engines than about the dude's work

I never brought up anything about it being a bad game. I just think calling it the finest FPS ever is a bit funny. But hey, Metacritic did give it a 91 after all!

 

[Pops Maellard]

Lots of people know that Crysis is a great game. It's not even a niche thing, the metacritic score is 91.
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And yeah I see this thread is more about the people who makes the engines than about the dude's work

Indeed. The guy who put that together did a fantastic job, it looks incredibly similar if not identical, aside from a slight difference in lighting.

 

[Poohblaster]

I develop using UE.

How does a shitposter like you even get an account on this forum

You need a hug. It's okay there's big boy games on UE too.

Spoiler

Quake I for life dog

 

[boutrosinit]

Looks too clinical. Textures are super clean. Poly edges are visible.

Expected better of Cry Engine.

Nice lighting, but too sterile overall.

 

[charsace]

Konami's version looks way better.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

I never brought up anything about it being a bad game. I just think calling it the finest FPS ever is a bit funny. But hey, Metacritic did give it a 91 after all!

Well is not my favorite fps of all time, but I can see that someone may believe it is, if it was a great game to begin with. I know there a a couple here in gaf that think it is.

 

[Arklite]

Pretty nice, I remember there was also some guy making an entire Titanic interior with the second cryengine, I think. Fancy stuff.

 

[1st Course]

I thought Fox engine was underwhelming personally tbh, it looks good yes but it just don't compare to some of the stuff we've seen so far from other engines.

 

[OryoN]

Pretty assets look... pretty off!

Seems like they're missing the point. Rendering the office in FOX Engine wasn't just about; "oh, look how close we make this remote environment look to the real one." It was more about: "This office serves as our reference for simulating how light behaves in an environment and how it affects materials". In fact, Konami pretty much stated that much, in similar words.

Konami demonstrated this thoroughly as they placed assets in different environments, or dynamically changed the lighting/time of day. No matter what they did, everything kept a consistently natural look. Was CryEngine 3 really built - from scratch - around that concept? It's one thing to create pretty images - which CryEngine 3 does very well - it's another thing to 'automatically' do what the FOX Engine was specifically designed to do.

 

[Ryoku]

Seriously, when the fuck is the word "salt" going to stop being thrown around by a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about? It's getting really tired and old.

 

[Dictator93]

I thought Fox engine was underwhelming personally tbh, it looks good yes but it just don't compare to some of the stuff we've seen so far from other engines.

They technically have not shown anything on Fox engine yet made exclusively with next gen in mind.

It has the same potential as anyother engine next gen really.

 

[Manbig]

You have pathetic standards if you think HL2 is a good FPS

And I thought I was being harsh in playfully teasing that guy earlier.

Good job holding up that GAF status quo of shitting on other people with personal attacks for having a different opinion though.

 

[Poohblaster]

Pretty assets looks... pretty off!

Seems like they're missing the point. Rendering the office in FOX Engine wasn't just about; "oh, look how close we make this remote environment look to the real one." It was more about: "This office serves as our reference for simulating how light behaves in an environment and how it affects materials". In fact, Konami pretty much stated that much, in similar words.

Konami demonstrated this thoroughly as they placed assets in different environments, or dynamically changed the lighting/time of day. No matter what they did, everything kept a consistently natural look. Was CryEngine 3 really built - from scratch - around that concept? It's one thing to create pretty images - which CryEngine 3 does very well - it's another thing to 'automatically' do what the FOX Engine was specifically designed to do.

I'm sorry the question you should be asking is, Can the Fox Engine run Crysis?

 

[Always-honest]

A bit of a waste of time don't you think?

 

[erick]

Cryengine has always been at the cutting edge. The Fox Engine may have subtle, nice lighting, but the semi-open-world physics of the original Crysis from 2007 have still not been beaten, almost 6 years later. I seriously doubt that Fox Engine will be the one to surpass Crysis on this account.

Also, do we know any other FPS besides Crysis that is consistently used for benchmarking 6 years after it was released?

 

[Soi-Fong]

This is the biggest image I could find. If I remember correctly A are the real photos, and B are in the Fox engine.

The Crytek 3 recreation is pretty good if you ask me, though that lighting could use a little tweaking. Not bad for a modder though.

B are the Fox Engine photos. You can clearly tell from the picture frames on the wall. Still freaking amazing though.

I couldn't tell immediately.

 

[SoulClap]

Looks pretty close to the Fox Engine pics when sized down.

 

[Ty4on]

Looks pretty close to the Fox Engine pics when sized down.

Still looks off and the bloom is way too high. E3 really cemented my belief that tweaking (or art I guess) will be the most important going forward. We've had the tech in the PS4, but never the graphics we've seen this E3.

 

[OryoN]

I'm sorry the question you should be asking is, Can the Fox Engine run Crysis?

Why? Last time I checked, the thread was about trying to recreate something from Fox Engine in CryEngine 3.

For arguments sake, let's say it can't. Does that somehow refute the things FOX Engine excel at?

Without getting into some pointless back-and-forth debate, I'll just say; FOX Engine is a completely different beast as far as dynamically 'simulating' photo-realistic lighting is concerned. At some point, people will have to accept that CryEngine 3 is aging.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

I jokingly replied to a guy that said Crytek couldn't make games, if you look closely at my post you'll even see that I've added an "" at the end. I wasn't trying to make an argument.

So it wasn't a opinion like you said?

 

[FACE]

So it wasn't a opinion like you said?