It didn't bother me at all in Uncharted 2, but I finished Uncharted 3 today and I was incredibly bothered by it by the end.
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Games that "play themselves"
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It didn't bother me at all in Uncharted 2, but I finished Uncharted 3 today and I was incredibly bothered by it by the end.
That is entirely too much time for any game to be on auto-pilot.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
So why do people like FFVII? Last time I played FFVII, holding down O was enough to beat the whole game.
crimzonflame
Member
Did you get a golden chocobo?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Sorry, holding down O makes my party kill everything. It plays for itself, I can't stop it. And because that's the only thing I need to do in order to beat the game, I'll never touch the materia-menu. I mean, why should I? If I can beat the game with one button, that's good to me! Same thing goes with Paradigms in FFXIII! Who cares about fun!
Leon S. Kennedy
Member
Quoted for truth. What crap job ubisoft did on that game. It was literally simpler than pong and required less thought to play than pong. The platforming felt like it ran on automatic. On top of that every level was copied and pasted from the first. Its like they ran out of money after then first level so they just copy and pasted the rest. I had no problem with not dying in the game, it was just that the game was crap.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Yes and you do the same in XIII. You set up your party set-up and then deploy them when ready. So it's already more involved then XII, that is if you are playing XII with gambits heavily used.
But whatever this is a pointless argument.
And even then it hardly plays itself. The parts with two party members were pretty fun. Trying to defeat things as fast as possible with Vannile and Szah was pretty awesome.
Giolon
Member
Nobody mentioned Progress Quest?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yeah man. Now that I think about it, killing enemies in FFXIII is pointless! I should've never engaged battles. I'll remember this for my next playthrough (LOL WHY WOULD I EVER REPLAY A GAME THAT PLAYS ITSELF!), I'll just run straight to the bosses. Hopefully I can auto-battle throughout the bosses, because that's where the fun is at!
OJdaKiller
Member
Heavy Rain.
As the player you almost feel unnecessary in the experience of "playing the game". Such a crappy excuse for a game with awful gameplay to boot.....Hit O-"Jason!!! Jason!"..Wow, what fun!
A mildly interactive movie would be more accurate to describe this game.
As the player you almost feel unnecessary in the experience of "playing the game". Such a crappy excuse for a game with awful gameplay to boot.....Hit O-"Jason!!! Jason!"..Wow, what fun!
A mildly interactive movie would be more accurate to describe this game.
Zomba13
Member
I finished the game mashing the auto command and occasionally switching paradigms.
About as much effort as setting up gambits in FFXII, though those still have a chance to fail.
To be fair, the difficulty level is set to "Easy"
Stop being an embarrassing fool Yoshichan
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I promise I'll stop when you record yourself beating FFXIII from start to finish with auto-battle and "occasional" paradigm-switching.
samus4ever
Banned
Forza 3 if you have it on the easiest setting. Pretty much just hold down the trigger and turn.
Then don't use the auto command?
"But then I just press attack 5 times and select a target!"
Which isn't much different from other FF games. (I love FF games, but I find these arguments to be ridiculous)
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
No, please let them think that they were using super time specific, pixel-accurate, ultra demanding micro-management skills in previous Final Fantasy games. It's funnier this way.
brianmcdoogle
Member
No joke, I once beat a friend in Mario Kart 64 playing with my feet. I was toad on the beach level.
And I don't know if this counts, but Bayonetta on easier difficulties, which I played on since I stink at Devil May Cry games, played itself. You just mashed buttons, things died, and you directed her to the next waypoint.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Torchlight
It...I don't know. It made me hate loot-crawler games again.
It...I don't know. It made me hate loot-crawler games again.
Lion Heart
Banned
Forza 3/4.
FFXIII was pretty good combat once you get 3 party members at a time and can organize your party however you want to.
Forcing you to use two characters at a time without getting to choose them for 30% of the game was a horrible design decision.
Also, the story was horrible, and Japanese developers need to stop writing whiny children characters and moaning damsels in distress characters. It's damn embarrassing to play Final Fantasy XIII with anyone around to hear it.
Phonomezer
Banned
I think the issue with FFXIII's combat is that it takes far, far too long for it all to come together.
The combat is great by the end of the game, where you're actually presented with a challenge, but (beating a dead horse here) the first 20 hours it's just an endless stream of holding forward and spamming a button.
That was my FFXIII experience in any case.
The combat is great by the end of the game, where you're actually presented with a challenge, but (beating a dead horse here) the first 20 hours it's just an endless stream of holding forward and spamming a button.
That was my FFXIII experience in any case.
mariosbrother
Member
Funny this topic popped up.... I just downloaded Need For Speed Shift 2 for iPad (it was free today) to see what it was like. Apparently you only have to tilt to steer.... And that's it. Maybe there are other configurations that require you to actually control the speed of the vehicle, but in my brief trial, I did not experience that.
Zomba13
Member
Well, in previous FFs I just use attack/auto-attack when able (like grinding mobs or early game bosses etc) but later on you usually need to use more abilities like spells or summons. I've not finished a FF by just using Auto-attack (though It's probably possible if you level enough) but I did beat FFXIII using auto atack/auto choose and only paradigm shifting a bit.
Yeah, I had to choose what is basically a mode (heal/buff/magic/physical) but I never made a choice of what ability to use. At least I don't remember. I think I tried for a fight or two but it was so much more efficient to let the game decide what moves to use.
Zomba13
Member
XD that is pretty great.
Sickboy007
Member
Oh wow i had never seen that. That's embarassing, it's not even a shooting gallery if you don't have to shoot things.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
One of the problem is that I couldn't even skip some of those when I replay the game, almost each chapter has a large section of chasing/walking/big puzzle/platform/fist fight lumped into them, so it's left with this last quarter of the game that I would go back to, which isn't really much... and some of those sections weren't really that fun either.
It's like the problem with Bayonetta where they put this long boring space harrier section before a boss fight, except they did them a lot more in uncharted 3.
we.are.the.armada
Member
OpinionatedCyborg
Member
this doesn't count, but I was reminded of it by this thread:
get the suzuki escudo pikes peak in Gran Turismo 3. max it out with upgrades.
set the controls so the right analog stick accelerates when it is pressed to the left.
use a rubber band to pull the analog sticks towards each other. this ensures that the car constantly accelerates while turning right.
enter 8 hour endurance race. your beast vehicle will drive along the righthand wall of the track and win.
those videos of luigi winning are hilarious. the other characters are total idiots.
It's always fun seeing what the AI does when you do the unexpected. In the original SF2, the AI would jump around a lot and occasionally poke you if you just stood still. It had no idea WTF was going on.
get the suzuki escudo pikes peak in Gran Turismo 3. max it out with upgrades.
set the controls so the right analog stick accelerates when it is pressed to the left.
use a rubber band to pull the analog sticks towards each other. this ensures that the car constantly accelerates while turning right.
enter 8 hour endurance race. your beast vehicle will drive along the righthand wall of the track and win.
those videos of luigi winning are hilarious. the other characters are total idiots.
It's always fun seeing what the AI does when you do the unexpected. In the original SF2, the AI would jump around a lot and occasionally poke you if you just stood still. It had no idea WTF was going on.
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
While his post was extreme hyperbole Fi does provide players with solutions to puzzles mere seconds after you enter some areas.
hxcmuziq
Banned
Sounds like every every platformer ever.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I think the part he forgot to clarify was "without any meaningful test of skill"
Nah, not really at all.
Four hours of cutscenes and the rest is gameplay - so about 25-30 hours of gameplay.
we.are.the.armada
Member
I like games that have auto-battle function like Persona 3's AI (well, something smarter than P3's AI but similar in other JRPGs).
My favorite game can be beaten by pushing forward and hitting a button. This sounds like a lot of games.
My favorite game can be beaten by pushing forward and hitting a button. This sounds like a lot of games.
PigSpeakers
Member
Sonic 1: Hold right, jump rarely.
Scapegoat
Member
But your teammates have guns too...? In a lot of shooting gallerys you only get a limited amount of time to shoot targets before they drop down or move off to the side. If the game waited for you to kill dudes to proceed people would be complaining that your highly trained AI buddies with guns were absolutely useless thus creating a disconnect, and it would be so much more immersive if they could take the dudes out if you did nothing :/
Sure the player is unnecessary if you want all the protagonists to die at the earliest possible point in the game? But if you want to help the characters stay alive and catch the killer you need to play...
Does S.T.A.L.K.E.R. count? I think I remember during the hype up pre-release at one point they said that the other NPC mercenaries could theoretically go off and complete the main quest while you were mucking about, or am I just remembering some weird fever dream?
Sold!
joke post if I ever saw one.
Sickboy007
Member
I don't care particularly of the enjoyment of AI NPCs. Better to have useless teammates than a useless player, don't you think? And this is a false choice anyway, there are thousands of ways to make the player feel invested and important without dumbing down his companions.