Is there a podcast or E3 video of the guys talking Bloodborne?
They do anything for No Man's Sky?
Day 3 wrap-up had Patrick mention a No Man's Sky the following day.
I think that hiring a lady just for the face she's a lady is the worst thing somebody could do. The point is to hire the best person possible for the job. If that person happen to be a lady then great but skipping the most qualified person simple because he's a man or he's white is just as racist.
I think that hiring a lady just for the face she's a lady is the worst thing somebody could do. The point is to hire the best person possible for the job. If that person happen to be a lady then great but skipping the most qualified person simple because he's a man or he's white is just as racist.
Again, how do you determine who's the most qualified person to talk about video games and occasionally write about them? I hate to break this to you, but yes, at a certain point, there's a level of qualification where yes, it's better to hire a woman or a person of color (or gasp, even both!) instead of another white guy. I say this as a white guy.
Of course that should be part of it, but it shouldn't be the only factor. Just being good on camera is somehing that probably excludes a large proportion of those who would consider going for the editorial position.
Sure, but do you think there's a higher percentage of people who are good on camera who are white males as opposed to white females, black males, or Asian females? Yes, hire somebody who is qualified, but we're not talking about brain surgery here.
If the new hires are white guys, I imagine the GB crew (Patrick in particular) feel pretty awkward right about now.
But if I ran a site which had eight full-time employees who were all male, I would look to rectify that immediately. And I know that the circumstances under which the site was formed dictated who the first set of hires would be, and that a lopsided majority of the people in the industry are male, and the huge majority of people who just applied were probably male, and so on. I'm just saying that would be a priority for me and I don't blame outsiders who might tabulate the backgrounds of various panels and make judgments that seem unfair to people like us who follow the site religiously.
Roman reigns is a white dude?
No, shows how much she knows. Also she didn't even comment with how inclusive they were being. They had a dinosaur, kangaroo, and a samoan male on their cast the whole time.
I have no interest in having this conversation in this topic, but making a conscious effort to diversify your staff is not "racist" against whites. And if this wasn't clear, I'm certainly not calling Jeff or the site racist or sexist.
Fighting racism is not about how we act, it's about how we think. If we're consciously diversifying this and positively discriminating that, even if we think of it as positive and inclusive, even if we think we're doing the right thing, what we're really doing is give credit to the idea that race and gender should dictate our actions, which to me sounds like the exact opposite of what we want.
If we could all ignore race and gender, not to the point of refusing to recognize and embrace our differences, but just enough so that it will not influence our decisions on a daily basis, I think we would live in a better world.
I realize it's a pretty big "if", and we can't just wait until everybody decides to stop being racist, so I'm not saying we just sit there and do nothing either. Ultimately I don't have the answers to these questions, and I don't think anobody does, really. It is a very complex problem but what I am absolutely convinced of though, is that these professional umbrage takers on twitter are part of the problem and not the solution.
Well, if Dan is indeed coming to GB as part of the editorial stuff, I would certainly say that he is more than qualified for the post, seeing that his personality and the style of content he produces fits the site incredibly well. He would just be another straight, white dude though. Should he be overlooked in order to have equal representation on the site?
He would only be overlooked if he were more skilled than every woman available for this position. As this is clearly not the case, he would not be overlooked.
Well, if Dan is indeed coming to GB as part of the editorial stuff, I would certainly say that he is more than qualified for the post, seeing that his personality and the style of content he produces fits the site incredibly well. He would just be another straight, white dude though. Should he be overlooked in order to have equal representation on the site?
Fighting racism is not about how we act, it's about how we think. If we're consciously diversifying this and positively discriminating that, even if we think of it as positive and inclusive, even if we think we're doing the right thing, what we're really doing is give credit to the idea that race and gender should dictate our actions, which to me sounds like the exact opposite of what we want.
Again, how do you determine who's the most qualified person to talk about video games and occasionally write about them? I hate to break this to you, but yes, at a certain point, there's a level of qualification where yes, it's better to hire a woman or a person of color (or gasp, even both!) instead of another white guy. I say this as a white guy.
Fighting racism is not about how we act, it's about how we think. If we're consciously diversifying this and positively discriminating that, even if we think of it as positive and inclusive, even if we think we're doing the right thing, what we're really doing is give credit to the idea that race and gender should dictate our actions, which to me sounds like the exact opposite of what we want.
If we could all ignore race and gender, not to the point of refusing to recognize and embrace our differences, but just enough so that it will not influence our decisions on a daily basis, I think we would live in a better world.
I realize it's a pretty big "if", and we can't just wait until everybody decides to stop being racist, so I'm not saying we just sit there and do nothing either. Ultimately I don't have the answers to these questions, and I don't think anobody does, really. It is a very complex problem but what I am absolutely convinced of though, is that these professional umbrage takers on twitter are part of the problem and not the solution.
I'm of two minds here. I think Dan, assuming he's the hire, will do a great job and I 100% understand why Jeff would hire him. But if the next hire and the next hire and the next hire all go to close friends of the site who have a strong rapport with the group, it's pretty clear from these various streams that we're eventually going to have a site with 15 white guys (or maybe 14 and Cara Ellison). If they want to be more diverse, eventually they're going to have to take a chance on someone.
And again, directed at no one in particular, no one is calling anyone racist or sexist. Some of us just wish the site made diversity a higher priority.
Giant Bomb has been in existence for 6 years. In that time Jeff has been able to make 1 hire. How do you know how high priority it is for him?
Giant Bomb has been in existence for 6 years. In that time Jeff has been able to make 1 hire. How do you know how high priority it is for him?
Seriously fuck that. It gives zero appreciation for what Jeff and others have had to do over the years just to keep the site in existence. It stinks of someone who has never built anything in their life, nor had someone else's livelyhood in their hands, sitting back and judging others for not doing what they want.
Well, we can also look at the people that show up on their streams and look, it's mostly white guys. Which isn't surprising. But still, it proves that when it comes to people appearing on GB streams, if Patrick didn't exist, it's highly likely would've been Leigh Alexander, Carrie Gouskas, and that's about it in the past few years.
Sorry, this is a "don't attack the job creators" argument. I have plenty of appreciation for what Jeff, Ryan, Brad, and Vinny has done. But, that also doesn't mean I can point out their entire circle that shows up on streams, podcasts, and such tends to be other white dudes. That doesn't mean they're bad people. However, it also means that if they want to expand beyond that, they'll have to bring in people they haven't been to 15 E3's with.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't give a shit what race, age or sex someone is on the bombcast. The person just needs to add meaningfully to the conversation.
Oh, go down the rabbit hole and read the whole twitter conversations with her fellow travelers.
@ElizSimins @Bboy_Izilla But yeah. We started side-eying over the net once the privilege started showing in the podcasts. Ugggggggh.
@Bboy_Izilla @ElizSimins @ActWon1 wait........................... all the fucking cardboard cutouts are white dudes too
@ActWon1 @ElizSimins @Bboy_Izilla Last night there were a few women, but even then the whiteness and the super dudes-all-uponness glared.
The analogy is a bit weird but bear with me for a second. The whole situation is reminding me of something that has been happening in Québec for years.
As you can see from my avatar, I'm a huge fan of the Montréal Canadiens hockey team.
Now, since Québec is the only part of North America where the majority of the population speaks french, there's been some recurring tension over the years between the french Canadians and the rest of Canada (and even the US too to some extent). One way that tension has manifested itself is that every single year, when the NHL does its draft day to recruit the new players there is a group of people here in Québec who screams for the Habs to draft french canadian player no matter how good they really are.. Simply based on the fact that "it's our team so we should have french speaking players representing us".
I'm french canadian myself, hell my parent are even semi-hardcore separatists and yet this whole thing is PISSING ME OFF. Our goal should be to get the best player that will eventually help us win the Stanley Cup... The fact that the dudes speaks french, english or russian in the dressing room is the least of my concerns.
Funny enough, we got a perfect example of that earlier today. Back in 2009 the NHL draft was actually done in Montréal (it change city every year) and the Habs staff had enormous pression from a segment of the population to draft a kid named Louis Leblanc (you guessed it, he's french canadian)... Now I don't have anything against the kid but there was clearly more skilled players still available to draft once our turn came. The end result? The kid never broke through to the NHL and we traded him this morning against a conditional 5th pick (aka they could have offered us a pack of new hockey sticks and we would still have accepted the trade)...
Anyway, /rant off...sorry about that but I had to say it.
In what persons little warped mind is a Samoan a 'white guy'?
The site always gave me the vibe of "hey, I made a website with my friends." Diversity is nice and all, but considering how vicious people can be in this thread about people who breaks their dynamics, I wouldn't be surprised if they prioritize liking a person and seeing how much they meld with the group over being a minority.
The same person who thinks the Queen and a T-rex are also white dudes.
In what persons little warped mind is a Samoan a 'white guy'?