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GT6 Demo Tuesday 2nd July
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Which one produces the cleanest jaggy-less results?
seattle6418
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lightchris
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If there was an optimal setting there wouldn't be the need for settings at all.
Flicker reduction (QXAA) will work just as the name suggests: It will reduce aliasing a bit (but will apply a slight blur on the whole image). It's matter of personal preference.
Fried Food
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lol I thought those display settings where just for people with garbage tvs. I'll have to play around with them.
phosphor112
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Flicker reduction uses QXAA? Probably why it looked the best. I saw no shimmer on that setting. Unless I'm just blind.
seattle6418
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I have no idea how you guys figure out so much stuff that isn´t even said on the demo... just how much time are you guys putting into this?
I would never figured out those graphics settings.
I would never figured out those graphics settings.
You should read articles of people who were testing tyre compunds for determing of grip/compounds and such in GT5. Or Japanese guy who performed crazy testing and measuring to determine way how actually oil change and engine brake-in work in GT5. Or Famine's (GTPlanet mod) escapade related to Bspec mode endeavours in endurances..
I think it was Famine who had a hand in developing the GT4 B Spec info too, wasn't it? That was a crazy system with the way they skilled up.
Played a bit earlier today and finally got gold. Low 2:23 without too much effort. But it sort of clicked, I just hadn't been drifting in to apexes enough, and was perhaps playing it a bit safe. Also switched to manual and found it helped since you just have a bit more control of the car and how fast you want it or the kind of desired traction. Reckon I could have got a 2:20 to 2:21 if I kept pushing. Loads of corners I knew I had more time.
Never did like Silverstone, but now I wish I'd raced on this track more in the past. Feel like with this demo I was learning a new track all over lol.
Never did like Silverstone, but now I wish I'd raced on this track more in the past. Feel like with this demo I was learning a new track all over lol.
Truespeed
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When I play Forza the sound I hear seems representative of the exhaust, regardless of whether your driving in cockpit or chase view. With GT5/GT6 the sound seems to be what you would hear if your were inside of the car. Now, I'm not making excuses for the sound in GT, but I think there are arguments to be made depending on what perspective you're playing in.
i got my time down to 2:25.056 or something.
that's still a good eight seconds too slow...
there are still plenty of corners i can improve quite a lot on, but making up those eight seconds seems impossible.
Metalmurphy
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There's also very poor sampling as far as channel conversion (surround > 2 speakers) goes.
This is very easy to see if you drive in 3rd person view and just crash in front, and then switch to back view and crash again.
Fried Food
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So all this GT6 playing has made me order GT1 and GT3 off amazon
seattle6418
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Dude, GT2 and GT4 FTW!
Basically more content and the same framework of the previous.
phosphor112
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Their channel mixing sucks. It's annoying.
They have NO channel mixing. Everything comes on central speaker only. It is plain lazyness.
Fried Food
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Yeah but I don't forsee myself spending much time with either one of them anyway. I'm planning on doing a little piece on the first GT games for each playstation console.
phosphor112
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Pretty much. It's... stupid how I can go into chase cam and hear the exhaust in the normal view, almost NOTHING when looking behind me, when honking the horn from behind, you can hardly hear, and when looking back, completely DROWNS out the car.
When my wife wants to do a small set of races with me in split screen. You can't hear my car. You can't hear me honk, but you can hear everything the 2nd player does.
They've been making games for over a decade. They should know how to do these things.
I was not thinking about PD TBH
phosphor112
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I don't play Forza much to make such comments on their sound.
Metalmurphy
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Damn haven't had any time to play this. When does it end again?
SolidSnakex
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The online qualifying? 5 hours. The demo itself will remain playable until August 31st.
They unlock the Turismo Racing GT-R tomorrow! First proper race car we get to drive with GT6's new physics.
Lol, but you have a GT avatar. What sort of times are you kicking? Wheel or Controller?
I found a little trick that helps me with lap times....
My set up.
G25 (Force Feedback set to 6)
Simulation Steering mode
Everything else in wheel options off.
In actual game racing options.
Manual (using paddle shift).
Traction 0.
ABS 1.
Everything else off except steering force(?) set to STRONG.
The last option is what's given me the ability to get tighter steering sensitivity (basically power steering) and have to fight with the wheel less. Immediately improved my laps just a smidgen across the board. Not by much, but enough to shave a few hundredths here and there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/23463568
so.... gran turismo is getting a movie?
any thoughts?
and i don't even play racing games, i just saw it on my bbc app
so.... gran turismo is getting a movie?
any thoughts?
and i don't even play racing games, i just saw it on my bbc app
velociraptor
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This needs a new thread.
SolidSnakex
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crazepharmacist
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Is the GTR unlocked today? Anyone know what time?
Metalmurphy
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It's already unlocked and OMG what a beast. The joy in my face!
2:06'756 with lots of mistakes. Currently 25th on the regional boards.
Just managed a mid 2:05. Can find more time though, few corners I just haven't been able to master, like the one just before the chicane.
BruiserBear
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I finally got around to trying this demo, and it was kinda like going back in time to some degree.
For starters, gas is assigned to the "x" button by default? Really?
It's such a small thing, but it just gives you a clue as to how out of touch Polyphony are in some regards. The lack of a breaking only driving line also blows my mind. I forgave it in GT5, but years later you still haven't realized this might be a desirable feature? Forza's had this since Forza 3 at least, maybe even earlier.
Then we've got the framerate in 1080p. I see this as a blatant sign of the overall problems with Polyphony. They're so focused on bullet points and cramming as much as possible into the game, that they often end up missing the fundamentals. I expect a locked 60fps with no screen tearing in a sim racer. They didn't achieve that with GT5, and it appears they won't achieve that with GT6.
The sound is still stuck in the past as well. The sound effects for hitting another car are the same as they've always been. Engine sounds are still a mess.
The game looks very nice for PS3 hardware, and the racing feels great on the track. I just wish I wasn't constantly being tapped on the shoulder by annoyances that shouldn't be there in the first place.
For starters, gas is assigned to the "x" button by default? Really?
It's such a small thing, but it just gives you a clue as to how out of touch Polyphony are in some regards. The lack of a breaking only driving line also blows my mind. I forgave it in GT5, but years later you still haven't realized this might be a desirable feature? Forza's had this since Forza 3 at least, maybe even earlier.
Then we've got the framerate in 1080p. I see this as a blatant sign of the overall problems with Polyphony. They're so focused on bullet points and cramming as much as possible into the game, that they often end up missing the fundamentals. I expect a locked 60fps with no screen tearing in a sim racer. They didn't achieve that with GT5, and it appears they won't achieve that with GT6.
The sound is still stuck in the past as well. The sound effects for hitting another car are the same as they've always been. Engine sounds are still a mess.
The game looks very nice for PS3 hardware, and the racing feels great on the track. I just wish I wasn't constantly being tapped on the shoulder by annoyances that shouldn't be there in the first place.
Metalmurphy
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It's assigned to both X and the right stick. Also DS3 buttons are pressure sensitive, and you know... you can change it.
Never even crossed my mind. Seems pretty like a pretty small detail.
WIP... And if as you say it was only for the "bullet points" and yet you don't care about them, you can play the demo in 720p.
Also, there is no tearing.
Agree 100%
BruiserBear
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Yes, I can change it, but why on earth aren't the triggers the default? Seriously, GT5 and GT6 are the ONLY racing games this gen to do this. Think about that. It says more than you think.
I just don't like having the line guiding my path the entire time, but I also like having some guidance, so the "breaking only" option in the Forza games is awesome.
You can say WIP if you want, but GT5 had screen tearing, and this game has framerate problems. I highly doubt they're going to completely iron these out by the ship date, as this demo doesn't even feature all the things you're going to see in the final game. Weather for example is surely going to bring the framerate down.
I'd love to believe they're gonna get 1080p mode smoothed out before launch, but I'll be shocked if the final game has no framerate problems at all.
I know 720p is an option, but I don't feel like going into a menu each time I want to play this one game, just to compensate for it's problems.
I don't get the complaint lol, the frame rate is near flawless in 720p. Options are great. I prefer the extra IQ over a slight drop in frame rate so I play in 1080p. Just play in 720p if you care more about frame rate. It's not aiming for bullet points it's giving consumers options and catering to as many people's ideals as possible.
Also I disagree about the sound. The GTR and GT3 sound very good. Leaf is a bit whispy, no idea what it sounds like in real life, and the 370Z could do with a bit more grunt.
Also I disagree about the sound. The GTR and GT3 sound very good. Leaf is a bit whispy, no idea what it sounds like in real life, and the 370Z could do with a bit more grunt.
Fried Food
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I really doubt they intended the game to play differently in 1080p.
NullPointer
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If its a game "option" to run at 60fps 720p then make it an option in the game itself. Right now its a system option and affects everything you do with the PS3.
Its kludgy and sloppy and is a workaround more than an option.
I agree with this. They should make it an option in the game.
Metalmurphy
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I can say WIP because...
1. It is a WIP
2. This isn't GT5.
3. It's not even a real GT6 demo, it was the Nissan GT Academy entry app powered by a WIP GT6 engine that had to be released on a scheduled set by Nissan.
4. New game engine was designed to be smoother, at 720p it's already better then GT5, and no tearing.
BruiserBear
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I'm going to hope for the best. The game looks amazing for the PS3 hardware, and it would be awesome if it held a solid 60 in 1080p mode.
Have they said there will only be premium cars in this game?
SolidSnakex
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The standards have also been modified in a way that the aero parts will fit on them just like with the premiums.
BruiserBear
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Gouda Jouji
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I've actually been wondering about that recently. I don't think we'll be able to put actual body kits on standard cars because of the way they're modeled. Maybe just generic splitters/canards along with the wings and wheels we can already put on them?
seattle6418
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And just as i was disappointed for not performing as well as the past years in GT Academy i just received an email inviting me for the finals in New York next week.
Talk about a huge bummer.
Every year GT Academy happens i just start to think about how cool it would be to go on to those finals and to compete for a spot in Silverstone.
Must be a unique experience.
Too bad the only american thing that i have is my PSN tag.
It´s a shame to live in a "tier 2" country. Maybe one day Nissan´s marketing department will wake up and bring GT Academy to different regions.
Oh well, all it´s left is to imagine "what it?" scenarios...
Talk about a huge bummer.
Every year GT Academy happens i just start to think about how cool it would be to go on to those finals and to compete for a spot in Silverstone.
Must be a unique experience.
Too bad the only american thing that i have is my PSN tag.
It´s a shame to live in a "tier 2" country. Maybe one day Nissan´s marketing department will wake up and bring GT Academy to different regions.
Oh well, all it´s left is to imagine "what it?" scenarios...