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[ADiTAR]

Israel-Gaza conflict erupts into fighting after attack by Palestinian militants

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared that Israel is "at war" following a surprise attack from Gaza by Hamas militants.

edition.cnn.com

Reports and media are very hard to watch right now. Hamas was able to infiltrate Israel at the 50th year memory of the Yom Kippur war, and apparently was able to take over 35 alive and dead bodies to the Gaza strip while also killing an unknown number of civilians. Over 2,200 rockets were fired across southern and centeral Israel from multiple functions in Gaza.

This is still on going as Hamas terrorists are still in Israeli territory fighting with Israeli Defence Forces and citizens protecting their towns.

Israel has declared a state of war, as they are calling the reserve. Retaliation will be severe.

 

[Liljagare]

Man, we don't need more of this, horrible news.

I think for some reason that it also has to do with another conflict.

Moscow's overtures to Hamas: A message to Israel and the US

Analysis: Hamas' visit to Russia at the height of international tensions over the Ukraine war could be the Kremlin's way of pressuring Israel over its stance towards Moscow's invasion.

www.newarab.com

 

[ADiTAR]

Man, we don't need more of this, horrible news.

I think for some reason that it also has to do with another conflict.

Moscow's overtures to Hamas: A message to Israel and the US

Analysis: Hamas' visit to Russia at the height of international tensions over the Ukraine war could be the Kremlin's way of pressuring Israel over its stance towards Moscow's invasion.

www.newarab.com

I doubt it. This has always been what Hamas wanted, terror and chaos. They went into houses shooting innocent people, taking selfies with their bodies.

I don't want anyone to claim when Israel retaliates that they were unmeasured. This is unprecedented and probably the worst attack on Israel in decades.

 

[FunkMiller]

Sigh. So many people dying over fucking religion, now stoked by the cunt in Moscow.

 

[BazookaBadger]

Complete intelligence failure on Israel's part. They were completely caught off guard by this.

Considering the savage nature of the attacks, I think it's safe to say that Hamas will pay for this 10 fold.

Israel response will be brutal

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I don't want anyone to claim when Israel retaliates that they were unmeasured. This is unprecedented and probably the worst attack on Israel in decades.

Then just annex all of Palestinian territory and finish with the sham situation.

 

[Forsete]

Ugh, this is bad.

 

[ADiTAR]

Then just annex all of Palestinian territory and finish with the sham situation.

Israel left Gaza in 2005, they moved everyone out. That experiment failed. And I don't think they want to go back there.

I don't know what the solution is. EDIT: well, actually Israel needs to eradicate Hamas completely. All of it. Like was done with ISIS.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

Isreal is going to destroy palestine now. The videos coming out from what these terrorists are doing...

I've seen a video of a house full of dead civilians including children and they just keep shooting the bodies.

A guy being dragged from his car and throat slit..

Isreal is not innocent but Palestine has now lost any pity the world had on them by murdering innocents.

I'm also surprised they were able to take over a military base... what were the idf even doing.

 

[Wildebeest]

The world today just seems more chaotic and unstable than it did just a few years ago.

 

[Kar]

We’re at war, I hope we will finally transform Gaza into a big crater of burned ash.

 

[EviLore]

 

[FunkMiller]

The world today just seems more chaotic and unstable than it did just a few years ago.

The fault lies with one man. Putin is responsible for this latest round of attacks in Israel, just as assuredly as he is responsible for invasion of Ukraine. The Israelis have rather stupidly allowed him to build and maintain a relationship with Iran, thinking Russia and Israel were on the same side. This was as deluded as Germany's approach to Russia over the past decade. Now Putin gets to sow even more division around the world, in a (likely failed) attempt to draw attention away from the atrocities his own army is committing. Look to Africa for the next flashpoint.

The utter failure of MOSAD to both gain intel on this attack, and understand Russian motivations in the Middle East better, is unforgivable.

 

[Slayer-33]

Jesus Christ, this is serious.

 

[pennythoughts]

Awful awful awful situation. Hamas cannot be allowed to continue to function after this, they just can't.

 

[Kenpachii]

2500 rockets how the hell do you even get that much.

Guess this is the end of hamas.

 

[DeafTourette]

So Israeli government will destroy Palestine... And everyone who isn't a militant including children and babies. Because Putin wanted to have his freaking world war.

 

[EviLore]

There is footage of rooms of murdered civilians that Hamas are proudly circulating. A lot of civilian bodies dead in the streets.

IDF has apparently just declared war for the first time in 50 years.

 

[MisterFalcon]

The utter failure of MOSAD to both gain intel on this attack, and understand Russian motivations in the Middle East better, is unforgivable.

I give it a few hours before the Russian disinformation network begins to push that Israel knew, let it happen so they can murder Arabs freely. And somehow Ukraine benefits from it.

 

[TransTrender]

I hope for a brutal and swift retaliation.
No more roof knocking and shit.

 

[theclaw135]

Extreme factions butting heads. I haven't heard much positive about the upper leadership of any side of this fiasco.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

There is footage of rooms of murdered civilians that Hamas are proudly circulating. A lot of civilian bodies dead in the streets.

IDF has apparently just declared war for the first time in 50 years.

Jesus... I just saw a video of IDF taking down an entire building. Those dudes are going scorched earth, Lad.

 

[FunkMiller]

2500 rockets how the hell do you even get that much.

Iran/Russia.

 

[SJRB]

The savagery in the videos I've seen is quite unprecedented. IDF caught with their pants down, Western intelligence caught by complete surprise. Which is fairly worrying honestly.

 

[FunkMiller]

Extreme factions butting heads. I haven't heard much positive about the upper leadership of any side of this fiasco.

Israel hasn't exactly been the shining beacon of democracy and moral righteousness.... but let's not pretend they plumb the depths of depravity being seen today.

 

[DeafTourette]

The only people suffering are the civilians on both sides. I fear there's going to be a massacre in the West Bank and it'll be justified by many. I'm not talking Hamas... I'm talking every day people... But this isn't new. It's just going to be WORSE!

FUCK THAT CUNT PUTIN!

 

[trent_the_gent]

The Palestinians are about to learn a harsh lesson. Israel can easily use this as justification to wipe them off the map.

Getting brave all of a sudden just because Putin shows support for you is incredibly stupid considering he is arguably losing the war he is currently involved in.

 

[FunkMiller]

I give it a few hours before the Russian disinformation network begins to push that Israel knew, let it happen so they can murder Arabs freely. And somehow Ukraine benefits from it.

The useful idiots and Putin shills are already lining up to compare the Israeli occupation to the Russian invasion - despite the fact that the latter is a very simple conflict, and the former a very, very complicated one.

Putin will vastly enjoy all of this.

 

[DeafTourette]

The Palestinians are about to learn a harsh lesson. Israel can easily use this as justification to wipe them off the map.

Getting brave all of a sudden just because Putin shows support for you is incredibly stupid considering he is arguably losing the war he is currently involved in.

How about just say Hamas... And not Palestinians.

And they've been oppressed for decades ... It's not like this is new to the civilians there. They've been paying for Hamas' crimes for decades

 

[EviLore]

How about just say Hamas... And not Palestinians.

And they've been oppressed for decades ... It's not like this is new to the civilians there. They've been paying for Hamas' crimes for decades

Hamas is the elected government of Palestine.

 

[winjer]

This is the kind of stuff that will strengthen the political position of Netanyahu and the extreme far right in Israel.
And they are going to demand the Hamas to pay with blood. But the reality is that it will be the Palestinian people that will pay the highest price.
We will see the dead bodies of many civilians, on both sides, in the next weeks. But there will be many more Palestinians than Israeli bodies.

Israel has made huge strides in international diplomacy with nearby Arab states. For example, Saudi Arabia.
Now the question is if they will side with Israel, go neutral, which also means siding with Israel. Or break up relations again.

 

[ADiTAR]

The useful idiots are already lining up to compare the Israeli occupation to the Russian invasion.

Yeah, of course the people on the other forum will claim that somehow a country that hasn't controlled an area for over 18 years is responsible. Or that Israel has no right to exist.

Israel has every right to exist, and to wipe Hamas after this.

 

[DeafTourette]

Hamas is the elected government of Palestine.

Hamas is the elected government of Palestine.

And the civilians will continue paying for their violence. They strong armed the people to be their government. But it's likely too late for them now. They've just killed their future.

 

[Z O N E]

There's a video of an Israeli woman being forced into a car and taken to Gaza...

Any "support" Palestine wanted over all these years has pretty much been eradicated after what they've just done.

 

[FunkMiller]

Yeah, of course the people on the other forum will claim that somehow a country that hasn't controlled an area for over 18 years is responsible. Or that Israel has no right to exist.

Israel has every right to exist, and to wipe Hamas after this.

Yup. Any comparisons to the Russian invasion of Ukraine are fatuous, idiotic and illogical. That is the illegal invasion of a sovereign nation by an aggressor intent on territorial domination and genocide.

This conflict is a bunch of idiots fighting over a bit of fucking rock in the middle of the desert because a book tells them to. And while these atrocities by the Palestinians should be condemned and reprisals should definitely be sought, I ain't gonna sit here and claim Israel haven't contributed to the ongoing slaughter as well.

Whole fucking thing is a colossal, stupid mess, that Putin rightly figures he can get in the middle of and kick up the hornet's nest to his benefit.

 

[ADiTAR]

And the civilians will continue paying for their violence. They strong armed the people to be their government. But it's likely too late for them now. They've just killed their future.

In 2008 the people of Gaza elected Hamas as their leader, there was no strong arming. People need to stop thinking Palestinians don't want this when all surveys show to the contrary.

This is the kind of stuff that will strengthen the political position of Netanyahu and the extreme far right in Israel.
And they are going to demand the Hamas to pay with blood. But the reality is that it will be the Palestinian people that will pay the highest price.
We will see the dead bodies of many civilians, on both sides, in the next weeks. But there will be many more Palestinians than Israeli bodies.

Israel has made huge strides in international diplomacy with nearby Arab states. For example, Saudi Arabia.
Now the question is if they will side with Israel, go neutral, which also means siding with Israel. Or break up relations again.

I hope it will wake up people because this far right government has been busy trying to protect Bibi from jail, and it failed in the security of the people which is really the number 1 issue in Israel.

This isn't about body count either, it doesn't matter which side has more when one side celebrates when innocents are killed.

 

[DeafTourette]

There's a video of an Israeli woman being forced into a car and taken to Gaza...

Any "support" Palestine wanted over all these years has pretty much been eradicated after what they've just done.

This language is the same as "Israel is wrong for this and should be dismantled" ... When the language SHOULD be "The Israeli government is wrong for this and should be replaced"

Or do you mean EVERY Palestinian should suffer when it's a relative few who carried out these atrocities?

 

[EviLore]

And the civilians will continue paying for their violence. They strong armed the people to be their government. But it's likely too late for them now. They've just killed their future.

There is widespread support for terrorism, violence, and the eradication of Israel within the Palestinian population. You see it everywhere, including from Palestinians abroad where no one can be “strong-armed.” It’s a difficult pill to swallow if you think people are by default good-natured, but the reality of the situation is that the Palestinian people by and large aren’t interested in peaceful coexistence with their own sovereign state, only death and destruction.

 

[DeafTourette]

In 2008 the people of Gaza elected Hamas as their leader, there was no strong arming. People need to stop thinking Palestinians don't want this when all surveys show to the contrary.


I hope it will wake up people because this far right government has been busy trying to protect Bibi from jail, and it failed in the security of the people which is really the number 1 issue in Israel.

This isn't about body count either, it doesn't matter which side has more when one side celebrates when innocents are killed.

So you are calling for the death of every Palestinian? Because that's what it seems you're saying.

And no... Most Palestinians DON'T want this wanton murder! WTF dude?

 

[DeafTourette]

There is widespread support for terrorism, violence, and the eradication of Israel within the Palestinian population. You see it everywhere, including from Palestinians abroad where no one can be “strong-armed.” It’s a difficult pill to swallow if you think people are by default good-natured, but the reality of the situation is that the Palestinian people by and large aren’t interested in peaceful coexistence with their own sovereign state, only death and destruction.

They WANT peace... But they don't want to be occupied, torn from their homes (the settlements) and on and on... They're oppressed... And when you're oppressed with NO power, you get desperate and cling to anyone being a "strong man" and claiming to fight for you. That's how you get Kadafi and the Ayatollah and Saddam... The people won't get it until it's too late... And it looks like it is now.

 

[GymWolf]

Where do you people watch all the videos?

 

[Sybrix]

Both sides as bad as each other, they've been knocking the shit out of each other for the last 70 years.

Nothing will ever change.

Both sides fuelled by a fanatical religious belief that the land is theirs.

A few weeks/months of my guns are bigger than yours, then ceasefire, then back to throwing stones over each others border pretending that they are different when in actual fact both Israelis and Palestinians are 6 of one and half dozen of the other.

Rinse and repeat for the next 40 years... blah blah blah.

Boring.

 

[DeafTourette]

I got a long day ahead and very little sleep. I am deeply saddened by this crap ... Senseless violence will beget senseless violence.

 

[IDKFA]

Hamas is the elected government of Palestine.

Correct me if I'm wrong and I haven't got time to look it up, but isn't Hams in control of the Gaza Strip and Fatah are the government of the State of Palestine?

 

[ADiTAR]

They WANT peace... But they don't want to be occupied, torn from their homes (the settlements) and on and on... They're oppressed... And when you're oppressed with NO power, you get desperate and cling to anyone being a "strong man" and claiming to fight for you. That's how you get Kadafi and the Ayatollah and Saddam... The people won't get it until it's too late... And it looks like it is now.

Israel left Gaza in 2005, uniletraly, why then didn't they just lived their own life? could've made Gaza into the Macao of the middle east, it has amazing beaches, great weather, cheap labor.

 

[DeafTourette]

Correct me if I'm wrong and I haven't got time to look it up, but isn't Hams in control of the Gaza Strip and Fatah are the government of the State of Palestine?

It's complicated...

The Palestinian government is the government of the Palestinian Authority or State of Palestine. The Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization (EC) is the highest executive body of the Palestine Liberation Organization and acts as the government. Since June 2007, there have been two separate administrations in Palestine, one in the West Bank and the other in the Gaza Strip. The government on the West Bank was generally recognised as the Palestinian Authority Government. On the other hand, the government in the Gaza Strip claimed to be the legitimate government of the Palestinian Authority. Until June 2014, when the Palestinian Unity Government was formed, the government in the West Bank was the Fatah-dominated Palestinian government of 2013. In the Gaza Strip the government was the Hamas government of 2012. Following two Fatah–Hamas Agreements in 2014, on 25 September 2014 Hamas agreed to let the PA Government resume control over the Gaza Strip and its border crossings with Egypt and Israel, but that agreement had broken down by June 2015, after President Abbas said the PA government was unable to operate in the Gaza Strip.

 

[DeafTourette]

Israel left Gaza in 2005, uniletraly, why then didn't they just lived their own life? could've made Gaza into the Macao of the middle east, it has amazing beaches, great weather, cheap labor.

Like I said... Settlements by the Israeli government taking over and bulldozing the homes of Palestinians (civilians). They HAVE NO POWER of legal recourse.

 

[DeafTourette]

Dammit y'all! Let me sleep! Too many emotions right now!

 

[HoodWinked]

Hamas Air Force

 

[MisterFalcon]

And the civilians will continue paying for their violence. They strong armed the people to be their government. But it's likely too late for them now. They've just killed their future.

Looking at the footage all the attackers are civilians. No uniforms anywhere so civilians can be distingiushed from combatants.