EchoedTruth
Banned
This.
How the fuck do you not realize what resolution you're broadcasting in????
I smell bullshit, IGN. And I like IGN.
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IGN admits their pre-release Ghosts footage wasn't 1080p after all
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This.
How the fuck do you not realize what resolution you're broadcasting in????
I smell bullshit, IGN. And I like IGN.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
MS to IGN:
"Hey, use 720p feed for both Xbox One and PS4, claim PS4 is still 1080p, and gamers will believe the difference isn't as big as it really is because they'll see minimal difference."
Easy.
LinktoDrink
Banned
You know, it boggles my mind how much people keep talking about this. Call of Duty is a franchise for dudebros that play that and Madden. That's it. Why the fuck do actual gamers care about the resolution? Why do actual gamers care if Activision cut corners, and why would you be surprised? It just drives me nuts. They're bad games. Stop caring about them. You're like people who just can't stop posting about what stupid thing Miley Cyrus has done this week and how disgusted you are with her. Just stop giving it attention.
Because he draws the conclusion that the PS4 version is superior because of the more detailed models, weapons, etc. as a result of the resolution, even though that shouldn't have been the case since both were running at 720p. I really don't understand some of the comments suggesting MS moneyhatting here.
That makes no sense at all. This is what a more realistic moneyhat would have been:
"Hey, take some money, use the 720p feed for both and mention that the game looks the same on both systems as shown by the BS feed."
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Soooo embarrassing.
Lots of people could tell. That's the point.
polyh3dron
Banned
I'll say it as plainly as possible in hopes of you being able to understand.
Readers of IGN who trust their professional opinions may have been swayed by the comparison between the 2 versions of CODG to buy the Xbox One. It was an incorrect comparison because CODG running at 1080p actually looks noticeably different from and better than the same game running at 720p.
It's not just meaningless "technological dick wagging" where one console gets bragging rights over having a higher number of inconsequential "Ps" as you put it, which is completely asinine because higher resolution is a big deal. It was a big deal when the last gen of consoles got us out of the 480i ghetto into 720p and it's almost as big of a deal to actually have games outputting in our TV's native resolution. Readers were misled and waters were muddied.
If the Xbox One is unable to run a certain game at any resolution over 720p while maintaining 60FPS and the PS4 can run the exact same game at 1080p with ridiculous surpluses in frame rate that made the game chug as a result of TOO many frames, that is an indicator of a substantial disparity in graphical power beyond some irrelevant pissing contest.
*nods*
Once you learn to separate the signal from the noise, a good community forum is far more reliable than a major review site.
As for this......It's not a good look, especially weeks after release. Sad thing is I don't think many people are surprised.
You might want to find a different forum to post on, because you probably won't enjoy your time here.
Oh yeah that make sit a LOT worse. It really does seem like a lot of the "journalists" were downplaying the differences between the two consoles on multiple games.
It still didn't have the sharpening and black crush filter.
You know, at least you owned up. Took the the time to sift through wheat and chaff. Discussed it with rational people and then actually tested it as best you could with what you had. Not many in the press went out of their way to at least educate themselves on if/why there were legitimate complaints.
Many just went through the bullshit motions of the same old same old. Then you asked GAF if you should do an article and if it was too late. You got positive results and wrote an article about it.
http://www.darkstation.com/features/opinion-what-you-need-to-know-about-next-gen-performance/
You also labeled the article an opinion piece. Which it should be. Because the fact is not everyone cares about resolution. But just because that may be so, doesn't mean any journalist shouldn't educate themselves about the subject they write about on a regular basis. Then report differences and possible implications in the future if it remains the same.
A big problem many had including myself, was many journalists were educated enough to write about minor differences between Xbox 360 and PS3 games but all of a sudden the jump between 1080p and 720p is negligible or doesn't even exist. It was all crazy, I believe I clicked about a total, 3 different articles on DF and other sites about power balance to resolution. There was some restraint from me, not a ton.
Anyway, I just thought you deserved kudos to how you handled reporting resolution differences.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Please stop posting.
plagiarize
Banned
this.
and we all knew IGN were wrong wrong wrong on this. even when they doubled down. we knew.
I'd love every journalist to follow Josh's lead and run the same tests he did. I honestly think a lot of people preaching the 'no real difference' live haven't bothered to look into it for themselves.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Because it's not just corner cutting? Because it's indicative of the gaping chasm between the two consoles in performance terms which will affect every single multiplatform game this console generation? Because there aren't many mulitplatform games to compare yet? Because it calls into question everything Microsoft has been saying in the lead up to the release of the two machines? Because the Xbone is a full $100 more expensive than the PS4 despite being a total shit-show from the perspective of power?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Most generation lead up don't have multiple consoles coming out a week between each other with systems that are so comparable.
Amauri14
Member
Even a 7 years old LCD shows at what resolution a video is running, so if this was really a mistake, they should start looking for a new video producer, and how could they confirmed it if it wasn't really 1080p? That's something that can be noticed with the naked eye, and as I say before, even an old ass LCD can detect this, special equipment is not required to tell a fucking resolution output.
VibratingDonkey
Member
Too late. They should've caught this before the comparison was uploaded.
It's really not that hard to recognize that two times more pixels should not result in exactly the same image quality. Failing at doing even this, it's no exaggeration to say that their comparisons are completely useless. Oh well, guess in the end it's a good thing they finally admit to this, so more people are aware and able to safely dismiss them in the future.
It's really not that hard to recognize that two times more pixels should not result in exactly the same image quality. Failing at doing even this, it's no exaggeration to say that their comparisons are completely useless. Oh well, guess in the end it's a good thing they finally admit to this, so more people are aware and able to safely dismiss them in the future.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Even a 7 years old LCD shows at what resolution a video is running, so if this was really a mistake, they should start looking for a new video producer, and how could they confirmed it if it wasn't really 1080p? That's something that can be noticed with the naked eye, and as I say before, even an old ass LCD can detect this, special equipment is not required to tell a fucking resolution output.
Unless the PS4 was set to 1080p and was sending an upscaled image to the monitor. It'd report a 1080p source then.
Even a 7 years old LCD shows at what resolution a video is running, so if this was really a mistake, they should start looking for a new video producer, and how could they confirmed it if it wasn't really 1080p? That's something that can be noticed with the naked eye, and as I say before, even an old ass LCD can detect this, special equipment is not required to tell a fucking resolution output.
Wasn't there a bug in COD that had the game run at 720p for PS4 (internal resolution of 720p, displayed at 1080p). So the TV information wouldn't have helped. That's why they issued a day 1 patch, no?
If you ever did, would you try taking some cues from this?
http://www.theaudiocritic.com/cwo/Our_Philosophy/
EatinOlives
Member
Clowns probably realized this when the 1080p news came out, but chose not to say anything until well after the ad-revenue-craze release period ended.
What a fucking joke. At the very least the journalists' idiotic logic that "nobody can tell the difference" is at least partially true, they're the ones who can't tell the difference.
What a fucking joke. At the very least the journalists' idiotic logic that "nobody can tell the difference" is at least partially true, they're the ones who can't tell the difference.
youta
Member
Nah, he should just come by OT. The fact is, a agree with him, but I wouldn't complain as I find these threads to be very entertaining. Truth be told, most of the time I really can't tell the difference between XB1/PS4
/WiiU
NDA ended today.
I never fell for it to begin with because i never paid attention to all the resolution bullshit.
I play games to have fun. I played sub-HD games for the last 6+ years. I don't care in the slightest. That being said it is bullshit that this goes on but people bring it upon themselves by continuing to give them hits and publicity.
Amauri14
Member
Oh yeah, I forgot about the upscaler.
lol. my sides.
Reading one after the other made it so much funnier. Phosphor my man.
To be fair to IGN, they were being told by Infinity Ward that it was native 1080p.
It wasn't until people PROVED the game was 720p that they caught that it had been rendering at 720p instead of 1080p. I still think it was a change they made at some point in development that got reverted in a later build, but never noticed.
covered in hyperbole, but close enough lol
SolidChamp
Banned
This.
Devilgunman
Member
The difference is extremely obvious, especially that night building scene. If someone says there is no difference, that person is either trolling or has a serious eyes issue.
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
Punkster_NY
Member
the game looks awful in motion on the Xbone. D:
Dragon1893
Member
Man, this whole situation is so pathetic.
JohnStamos1
Banned
The people on this forum are so fucking stupid. Who cares about any of this shit.
3rdamention
Member
And they denied they were wrong for so long, this just makes them look ridiculous....
ESPECIALLY when DetectiveGAF knew those videos weren't 1080p weeks ago.
ESPECIALLY when DetectiveGAF knew those videos weren't 1080p weeks ago.
Alcoholikaust
Member
To the original IGN reviewer:
Why spend all that time on the waiting list just to throw away your account with such an awful post?
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
That's strange. Why would IGN apologize for something that nobody cares about?
sol_bad
Member
I'm still trying to figure what the target audience is for sites like IGN and Gamespot.
I mean there are us "hardcore" gamers who live and breath games, we will happily look at sites like IGN and Gamespot. Yet they shit all over us and lie to us as their audience, many times GAF has disproved an article on a gaming site and it's met simply with them
attacking or making fun of GAF.
We seriously can't be their target audience if this is the case.
There is the less enthusiastic gamer, the more "casual" gamer should we say? They still buy a few games a year and they generally buy based on name or what they see in the store at the time.
Pretty much all the "casual" gamers I know do not read IGN, Eurogamer, Edge or Gamespot let alone sites like Kotaku or even watch videos with Sessler or Mark Beer. Generally the video reviews they read are found in magazines like Zoo or in the daily/weekend newspaper.
So surely they can't be their target audience?
WHO IS THEIR TARGET AUDIENCE?
If it is us why do they treat us so poorly?
I mean there are us "hardcore" gamers who live and breath games, we will happily look at sites like IGN and Gamespot. Yet they shit all over us and lie to us as their audience, many times GAF has disproved an article on a gaming site and it's met simply with them
attacking or making fun of GAF.
We seriously can't be their target audience if this is the case.
There is the less enthusiastic gamer, the more "casual" gamer should we say? They still buy a few games a year and they generally buy based on name or what they see in the store at the time.
Pretty much all the "casual" gamers I know do not read IGN, Eurogamer, Edge or Gamespot let alone sites like Kotaku or even watch videos with Sessler or Mark Beer. Generally the video reviews they read are found in magazines like Zoo or in the daily/weekend newspaper.
So surely they can't be their target audience?
WHO IS THEIR TARGET AUDIENCE?
If it is us why do they treat us so poorly?