digitalrelic
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It can pass up to 5.1, but you'll have lossy Dolby Digital/DTS surround. For next gen lossless standards like Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD, or the newest Dolby Atmos, you'll need HDMI.
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In-depth review of the Samsung KS 8000
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It can pass up to 5.1, but you'll have lossy Dolby Digital/DTS surround. For next gen lossless standards like Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD, or the newest Dolby Atmos, you'll need HDMI.
Lakershead22
Member
I am very intreagued by this particular model. I may have to get it soon.
dynamic HDR 10 requires HDMI 2.1 according to philips doc, not sure that can even be patch it via fw update. But Samsung TV allow you to swap out the HDMI input box right? Can someone confirm if this is the case for this TV?
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I believe the model line below it can, so the KS8000 should be able to as well. There are options in the menu on the 6300 line to change between bitstream and PCM.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I believe so, you should direct your queston to the general TV thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516410
Thanks XiaNaphryz, done.
madjackal
Member
Cool, thanks.
"It is not clear whether HDMI 2.1 is a hardware or firmware upgrade. However, Samsung confirmed to Display Daily that it will push out a firmware upgrade for its current TVs later this year to enable dynamic metadata for HDR. It is unclear if this update will apply only to 2016 models or if 2015 models will receive an update, too
Samsungs promise suggests that a firmware upgrade is possible but Samsung might have been planning for it. Other TV manufacturers have yet to comment on the matter.
Read more at http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1463138030#Ymli5tz8kZt8x0G8.99"
Otherwise maybe wed only need a new oneconnect box??
Quick question... I plan to get this TV as an upgrade from my old 1080P set which is running through an AV receiver (4K compliant)
Do I need a special 4K HDMI cable? Or is this all a load of guff that I hear in electrical stores to splurge money on upgraded cables that I don't need?
Do I need a special 4K HDMI cable? Or is this all a load of guff that I hear in electrical stores to splurge money on upgraded cables that I don't need?
I bought the JS8500 from last year, and Best Buy has the KS8000 on for 1999 up here in Canadaaa eh.
I'm not above selling my JS8500 and using that money towards the KS8000, since I sort of feel a little butt hurt with adopting a 4K television so quickly.
Can someone tell me I'm being a spoiled Sally and the HDR on the JS8500 is perfectly fine?
I'm not above selling my JS8500 and using that money towards the KS8000, since I sort of feel a little butt hurt with adopting a 4K television so quickly.
Can someone tell me I'm being a spoiled Sally and the HDR on the JS8500 is perfectly fine?
Anyone have experience with universal stands like this?
Coming across this is one of the reasons why a KS8000 purchase is doable for my room. Before the Sony X800D was winning by default simply due to its base being something that can actually fit on the place where I keep my TV (and there was no way to move things around etc to get a proper setup going, basically pushing the limits of my room as it is, wall mounting is not an option). The 49 inch KS8000's default stand/feet would be too far off the side. But something like this will work perfectly for my setup. Was just wondering if anyone's tried these types of stands, how stable they are etc. (already checked the specs, and it does support the VESA specifications for this model)
Just doing a quick check, a 10 foot cable can cost as little as $5 right now.
Coming across this is one of the reasons why a KS8000 purchase is doable for my room. Before the Sony X800D was winning by default simply due to its base being something that can actually fit on the place where I keep my TV (and there was no way to move things around etc to get a proper setup going, basically pushing the limits of my room as it is, wall mounting is not an option). The 49 inch KS8000's default stand/feet would be too far off the side. But something like this will work perfectly for my setup. Was just wondering if anyone's tried these types of stands, how stable they are etc. (already checked the specs, and it does support the VESA specifications for this model)
If you want to do 4k gaming, you'll need high speed HDMI cables capable of doing 18Gbps. I believe they were available before, but most people usually opted for the cheaper options when making their purchase.
Just doing a quick check, a 10 foot cable can cost as little as $5 right now.
Anyone have experience with universal stands like this?
Coming across this is one of the reasons why a KS8000 purchase is doable for my room. Before the Sony X800D was winning by default simply due to its base being something that can actually fit on the place where I keep my TV (and there was no way to move things around etc to get a proper setup going, basically pushing the limites of my room as it is). The 49 inch KS8000's default stand/feet would be too far off the side. But something like this will work perfectly for my setup. Was just wondering if anyone's tried these types of stands, how stable they are etc. (already checked the specs, and it does support the VESA specifications for this model)
If you want to do 4k gaming, you'll need high speed HDMI cables capable of doing 18Gbps. I believe they were available before, but most people usually opted for the cheaper options when making their purchase.
Just doing a quick check, a 10 foot cable can cost as little as $5 right now.
Thanks for helping
DOT DASH DOT
Member
Yes you are, you really won't gain all that much from upgrading to the KS range, I have a JS9000 and I thought that the KS would be a sizeable upgrade when it comes to HDR, it really isn't! I've checked out the 8000/9000 and whilst it looks good, it's not a step above the JS by any means.
The HDR peak brightness on a KS tumbles from around 1400 or so to 500-550, whereas the JS9000 and 8500 hit 570 in dynamic and doesn't fall much with sustained peak brightness, the only thing you'd gain is some better input lag figures 34ms to 21ms, and the JS range also support HDR in game mode, which pretty well assures that we'll get not much in the way of increased lag. Some guys on AVForums sent their KS8000 back and kept the JS9000, which the 8500 is close to.
I just got a 65inch KS8000 uk model so KS9000 for you Americans.
These are Youtube 4k captures.
Will soon try to run PC games and try Super Mario Galaxy and Dolphin Emulator 4k stuff, but one thing that I gotta say, 1080p upscaled to 4k looks bloody amazing on this TV. The OS is really good slick and fast, uses a Smart remote, you can pair it so you can use it to control other devices like Amazon Fire and you can speak to it too, Volume 100!
These are Youtube 4k captures.
Will soon try to run PC games and try Super Mario Galaxy and Dolphin Emulator 4k stuff, but one thing that I gotta say, 1080p upscaled to 4k looks bloody amazing on this TV. The OS is really good slick and fast, uses a Smart remote, you can pair it so you can use it to control other devices like Amazon Fire and you can speak to it too, Volume 100!
digitalrelic
Banned
Eh... that 1400nit output makes a huge difference in my opinion, whether it's sustained or not. Real program material (as opposed to test patterns) moves and fluctuates in brightness and almost never asks the TV to continually blast out the brightest levels over extended periods of time. So the set doesn't really need to sustain that level of brightness all that long. HDR should look a lot better on this set than last years model.
DOT DASH DOT
Member
It does look decent don't get me wrong, but for someone to sell a model that actually has advantages over the KS, like dimmable black bars, and better motion clarity, it just isn't worth it.
I hate buying TV's.
I'm still using my 50" Panny Plasma purchased in 2008, but I'm really wanting an upgrade in size to a 60".
I see I can order a 60" KS8000 (Us model) for around $1,200 - $1300 plus tax after eb8's/EPP and free shipping.
That seems like a killer deal, but then I keep reading forums and there are always people saying to just wait because something better is coming....which is always the case, but this sounds like it might be a bad time to buy-in - right?
I nearly pulled the trigger on ordering the 60" last night, but I think I'm going to try to hold off until next year -- the plasma is doing well, just wish it was bigger than 50" at my 8.5' viewing distance.
I'm still using my 50" Panny Plasma purchased in 2008, but I'm really wanting an upgrade in size to a 60".
I see I can order a 60" KS8000 (Us model) for around $1,200 - $1300 plus tax after eb8's/EPP and free shipping.
That seems like a killer deal, but then I keep reading forums and there are always people saying to just wait because something better is coming....which is always the case, but this sounds like it might be a bad time to buy-in - right?
I nearly pulled the trigger on ordering the 60" last night, but I think I'm going to try to hold off until next year -- the plasma is doing well, just wish it was bigger than 50" at my 8.5' viewing distance.
What do you think of the Sony X800D? I'm really considering it over the KS800 since I'm waiting for better tv tech in the coming years and want a solid HDR tv that's under $1,000
NYR
Member
Lg G6
The E6 is the same thing without the same sound bar/base, so the e6 is the one to aim for , IMO.
digitalrelic
Banned
Eh, I wouldn't expect to see a significantly better set in the next year. OLED will still be in the ~$2000-$2500 price range for 55", Vizio may lower input lag w/ 4k HDR on their LED backlit set, Samsung sets may be a bit brighter or bring forth dynamic HDR functionality (which according to Samsung is also coming to 2016 sets via firmware update), but I don't see anything groundbreaking happening in 2017.
2018? Maybe. 2019? Yeah, OLED or FALD will probably be matured and a lot cheaper at that point, and will probably be the way to go. HDR/4K standards will be firmly in place as well. But now you're talking about waiting three years. Three years is an eternity for electronics.
I say jump in now.
How do you find the ku6400 overall?
It's the set I keep coming back to as it's within my price range and max size I can have. I'm looking at the 40". I was intrigued by the firmware update with hdr+ in game mode but is it pretty poor?
I'm kind of limited on what to get with the screen size, it will be on a pc desk sat acouple of feet away if that so anything bigger would fry my brain but I want a TV with all the bells and whistles or there's no point upgrading my current Sony set.
Wow nice. I got the 49inch UK KS8000 and love it so far. Is that Witcher 3 from a YouTube video?
I've found that YouTube content isn't that impressive so far. Any recommendations for good 4K channels?
I had this issue - my av receiver is 4k compliant but doesn't have 2.2. I tried to plug a HDMI cable from the arc on the tv to the arc on the receiver and got no sound. What do I enable on my av receiver to make this work?
For now I am using optical and it sounds fine. I've only 2 floor speakers, am I missing out on sound quality this way?
FarFromAnyGame
Banned
Gamersyde.com offers the highest quality videos/screenshots.
Here's Horizon Zero Dawn's 4K gameplay http://www.gamersyde.com/download_horizon_zero_dawn_ps4_pro_demo-38055_en.html
Their streaming service is only 1080p/60 fps
To get 4K, download it to a USB drive and play it on your TV.
Haven't tested it yet but it says "3840 x 2160 (22893 bitrate)" so it's good. I think.
mario_O
Member
The review from Flatpanelshd isn't very good, at least for HDR.
I think I'll pass on this one, and wait for next year models.
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1468834358
I think I'll pass on this one, and wait for next year models.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I hate the TV market sometimes... it does feel like you need to go above a certain cost threshold to get a good model without bad blur/color trails effects or other issues. Low end models get relaxed by newer low end model with generally the same problems or even more corner cuts sometimes.
dcx4610
Member
Anyone have experience with universal stands like this?
Coming across this is one of the reasons why a KS8000 purchase is doable for my room. Before the Sony X800D was winning by default simply due to its base being something that can actually fit on the place where I keep my TV (and there was no way to move things around etc to get a proper setup going, basically pushing the limits of my room as it is, wall mounting is not an option). The 49 inch KS8000's default stand/feet would be too far off the side. But something like this will work perfectly for my setup. Was just wondering if anyone's tried these types of stands, how stable they are etc. (already checked the specs, and it does support the VESA specifications for this model)
If you want to do 4k gaming, you'll need high speed HDMI cables capable of doing 18Gbps. I believe they were available before, but most people usually opted for the cheaper options when making their purchase.
Just doing a quick check, a 10 foot cable can cost as little as $5 right now.
That stand should work. The KS8000 has a rounded top half and a flat bottom so you'll need difference length screws and likely spacers for the top 2 screws. Those should come with the stand and if not, they are easy to find at hardware stores.
The only concern I would have is the weight of the TV and if it would fall forward. It's not a heavy TV but unless that base is heavier than the TV or has a way to secure itself, it doesn't like it would be stable.
Bill Rizer
Member
Sorry people if it's been already said, but:
- Does CLEAR MOTION works in GAME MODE?
- How is backlight uniformity on 55" (especially on blacks)?
- Does CLEAR MOTION works in GAME MODE?
- How is backlight uniformity on 55" (especially on blacks)?
65. 3,3k seems to be correct then and I'm out.
Sithlord77
Banned
So I got this tv yesterday and it's amazing. However I cannot get more than 2.1 out of 5.1 sources when running through the ARC (audio return channel) of the tv?
Like I have 5.1 files I play through it on the Samsung smart app by using my NAS from upstairs. They play and stream fine but only in stereo. If I play them through Shield they're in 5.1
Anyone know why it's only 2.1 files through Samsung tv ARC?
My reciever is a Denon x4200 and ARC is activated on both the tv and reciever as they're connected through the labelled arc hdmi ports of both.
Like I have 5.1 files I play through it on the Samsung smart app by using my NAS from upstairs. They play and stream fine but only in stereo. If I play them through Shield they're in 5.1
Anyone know why it's only 2.1 files through Samsung tv ARC?
My reciever is a Denon x4200 and ARC is activated on both the tv and reciever as they're connected through the labelled arc hdmi ports of both.
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ks8000
Good black uniformity, poor local dimming, apparently.
RuinerPrime
Member
totally getting a KS8500(usa) in November
My set arrives in 3 days, it's been a long week, 11 days from ordering to receiving because of white glove service scheduling but I had to have it shipped in a crate because of past experiences, two 55" monitors were badly damaged in shipping.
I've went to BB and Costco (basically same except for dark bezel) to check it out more times than I care to admit. In my time testing it at the stores, it's best to set it to "custom" and then set sliders at 0. Again, limited time and access but I thought I saw judder with motion tweaks. No motion processing worked well for me with console and PC content. Did not get to play PC games, the laptop they let me connect was barely capable of 4K/60.
Lesson I accidentally learned at Best Buy, watching a guy return the 50" for a broken OCB: The TV's are setup to hide backlight issues in the store, the brightness enables hiding it well. The return area was much darker and that revealed it. It was not too distracting for me even with default setting and those should be tweaked anyway.
If you look for backlight issues, you will find them. Changing settings helps a bit but does not get rid of it. Want to address backlight issues better? Let some daylight in or use ambient lighting. I don't see it as a critical issue so I bought the 65".
DOT DASH DOT
Member
Does anyone know if the wifi module is built into the TV or One Connect box?
The ethernet cable is in the TV, so I'd imagine that's where all the network gear lives.
Brigandier
Member
Picked up my 49" KS8000 UK TV today, amazing build quality really slick screen, fantastic blacks I wasn't expecting this level of black from an LED... I'm not seeing any clouding or any annoying patches like my last two TVs had I am very aware of a shitty panel and can see it a mile off so it was a great start.
Colours are deep and game mode.... damn can really feel the difference playing at around 20ms really enjoying the crisp detailed picture can't wait to play some 4k blu ray tomorrow
Stand is really sturdy and easy as 1 2 3 to set up.
Very pleased with this purchase well worth the money, roll on PS4 Pro.
Colours are deep and game mode.... damn can really feel the difference playing at around 20ms really enjoying the crisp detailed picture can't wait to play some 4k blu ray tomorrow
Stand is really sturdy and easy as 1 2 3 to set up.
Very pleased with this purchase well worth the money, roll on PS4 Pro.
that makes me nervous, because I'm hoping to connect my system the same way. The rtings review says it should pass through Dolby 5.1 and DTS through arc.
Brigandier
Member
Hmm that's wierd I'm using arc and getting 5.1 no problem on my Sony STR860.
Hopefully it will be the same with my 1040. My tv should arrive by the end of the week.
Brigandier
Member
It originally played all content in 2.1 all I did was switch to 5.1 using the a.f.d/2ch button and it's been fine since.
Sithlord77
Banned
I think I may not have enabled dd5.1 on the tv to pass through. But can't check right now as my shares aren't setup via the tv app properly. In any case I'm playing everything media files wise through the Shield now. So ARC wont get used now anyway. The Nvidia Shield TV complements this tv so well. It plays everything you throw at it a even 4K 60fps HDR stuff.
Sithlord77
Banned
Took some pics of my new setup with the 65" KS8000. Upgraded the speakers and receiver to Q Acoustics 2050i 5.1 and the reciever is a Denon AVR-4200w. These phone pics really don't do the picture justice and the HDR really is spectacular. I would say it is more impressive than 4K. But seeing them both on a video at 60fps just blows you away.
