Comes out on May 1st on Steam too
But yeah I dontbsee From ever touching the Hounds series again.
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Kadokawa (Metal Max, Demon Gaze) purchases From Software
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But yeah I dontbsee From ever touching the Hounds series again.
I don't understand the hate, Kadokawa and Experience make lots of good dungeon crawlers, this is their last one
I don't see why Kadokawa shouldn't let From make other good Souls games...
Add that Kadokawa seems to like Vita so this can only mean Souls games on Vita! XDOne can hope right?
I don't think Kadokawa is publishing that game, also that latest Experience Vita game, Operation Abyss or something is being published by Mages/5pb so it's possible something went wrong with Kadokawa-Experience partnership.
thanks, had slightly forgotten about this. I watched the video and the dude (chad warden?!) seems to have locked down all the things that I liked in chromehounds.
I will not derail this topic, and continue on that thread instead
Hypereides
Member
Imo From should've stayed independent. They're building value at the moment. It's far too premature for a takeover/buyout.
I don't think that From had any saying in this... Neither I think that this will change shit in the end. They effectively only wanted to acquire a developer who makes japanese games aimed good on both markets.
And I doubt the budget for Dark Souls will be lower because of this. It's a great IP, I can see they continuing it's legacy like always.
And I doubt the budget for Dark Souls will be lower because of this. It's a great IP, I can see they continuing it's legacy like always.
Mmmm... You are right.
Dr. Buni
Member
Why would one want a company like Sony, M$ or Nintendo to buy From Software? What us, gamers, would gain with the franchise becoming exclusive? Geez, people.
They weren't independent. That said, being owned by another publisher, although one focusing mostly on manga and anime, may be a bit different than being owned by a generic IT company
A new IP aimed at the west? :/ let's hope it's not a shooter atleast.
sublimit
Banned
WTF............????
If it was April's first no one would have believed this.
Basically this.
If it was April's first no one would have believed this.
Basically this.
Here you can read an English source
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...cquires-dark-souls/armored-core-from-software
From is not that small...
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...cquires-dark-souls/armored-core-from-software
From is not that small...
Can't wait for Knee Jerk: the thread to reach its full potential.
Because blind optimism for console manufacturers and complete cynicism for everything else makes a lot of sense apparently. Its not like Sony hasn't been downsizing and restructuring drastically. Microsoft's decision to secure Titanfall was a better decision than spending that money on their own development studios. Nintendo is killing it when it comes to the Wii-U.
At this rate I'm surprised people aren't begging and pleading that Square Enix bought From Soft, even though its current owner is probably more stable financially.
Gotta jerk dem knees.
Because blind optimism for console manufacturers and complete cynicism for everything else makes a lot of sense apparently. Its not like Sony hasn't been downsizing and restructuring drastically. Microsoft's decision to secure Titanfall was a better decision than spending that money on their own development studios. Nintendo is killing it when it comes to the Wii-U.
At this rate I'm surprised people aren't begging and pleading that Square Enix bought From Soft, even though its current owner is probably more stable financially.
Gotta jerk dem knees.
sublimit
Banned
I think almost every From Soft fan here on GAF knows about their current staff size and strength in capital and IP history.That's why everyone is surprised by the acquisition...
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I don't understand the hate, Kadokawa and Experience make lots of good dungeon crawlers, this is their last one
I don't see why Kadokawa shouldn't let From make other good Souls games...
Add that Kadokawa seems to like Vita so this can only mean Souls games on Vita! XDOne can hope right?
Tokyo New World Record: Operation Abyss is being published by Mages/5pb like you said. Previous company was CyberFront.
Stranger of Sword City: White Palace (X360 versions Experience is publishing themselves)
No word on whos doing it for the Vita version yet, the publishing that is.
Mages/5pb also apparently has the license for Meikyu Cross Blood Infinity Ultimate (PSV) which they will be releasing in August. The original Meikyu Cross Blood Infinity (PSV) was under CyberFront. The only 2 titles Kadokawa had was Students of Round: The Eternal Legend (PSP) and Demon Gaze (PSV)
With that being said things were already split up between the two companies. CyberFront and Kadokawa for Exp. Inc. titles.
It looks more like CyberFront had invested in the (Generation Xth) series IP which is why they have Meikyu Cross Blood Infinity (Ultimate) and Tokyo New World Record: Operation Abyss. Kadokawa on the other hand opted for the fantasy related titles. That and there is a small connection between Students of Round & Demon Gaze.
2+2 sorry but yeah no, Kadokawa "might" have been involved only with Demon Gaze, though Im kinda doubting what they really did considering pretty much most of the general mechanics / graphical resources was stuff Exp Inc already uses and game design. Asides from that Students of Round existed before hand from the PC version. And those were the only 2 dungeon crawlers the 2 companies put out together. So not sure where you are getting the "Kadokawa and Experience make lots" of idea from. Not to mention that they have nothing to do with Strange of Sword City also currently, for sure not development wise.
Hypereides
Member
I was under the impression that they made commisioned projects for larger publishers such as Namco, besides developing their own projects.
No. Souls is canceled forever because Kadokawa, being a game publisher, is philosophically opposed to releasing games that sell well and are positively received by critics and consumers. They're probably recalling all unsold copies of the series and burning them as we speak.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
#FREE RODEA
Gwyn would be proud.
Kadokawa made Natural Doctrine
IIRC in the official thread it was appreciated, it should have a deep and punishing gameplay(IIRC someone defined it the Dark Souls of SRPGs lol)
IIRC in the official thread it was appreciated, it should have a deep and punishing gameplay(IIRC someone defined it the Dark Souls of SRPGs lol)
For some reason i have always associated Experience to Kadokawa lol.
KimonoNoNo
Member
Kadokawa is a huge corporation worth a hell of a lot of money.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadokawa_Corporation
They do own all major gaming publications via Enterbrain and ASCII, no? Which could be a bit of a problem in itself if Famitsu and Dengeki review Kadokawa games - not that they ever had much credibility to begin with.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Kadokawa made Natural Doctrine
IIRC in the official thread it was appreciated, it should have a deep and punishing gameplay(IIRC someone defined it the Dark Souls of SRPGs lol)
For some reason i have always associated Experience to Kadokawa lol.
And that game is a perfect example of why they should never be allowed to make a game again with the critical S rank type of bugs it has / had. Not to mention overall quality assurance in the title itself compounded, by no marketing and not exactly the best graphical design which really brings down the game which does have an interesting gameplay system. That and unbalanced gameplay on some of the non-story critical levels.
NAtURAL DOCtRINE Import |OT| - GAME OVER MAN! GAME OVER!
That title seems like they just let the team run amok and nobody was really watching what the fuck they were doing. Then kicked the half formed "baby bird" out of the nest.
This is coming from someone who actually likes the game and spent a hell of a lot of time with it.
In closing that game is the last, VERY LAST example one should give for a self developed title by Kadokawa. At least the US should be getting a more stable version from all the issues us players here in Japan have been finding...
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Too niche. It doesnt look as good on paper as when you can show some crazy numbers that tie into From Software and the Souls series. Let alone general "hype" from the West.
Also considering literally all Exp / Team Muramasa does is do Wizardry type of titles, its not like they have a portfolio that shows they have experience to branch out into other titles if necessary, unlike From Software which has a pretty extensive history.
I don't know where this came from or where it's going...
Even when I don't like it (if it isn't broken, don't fix it), good things may come out of it... who the hell I'm kidding, all I want is a western release of KanColle, damn it!
Oh and don't fuck up souls.
Even when I don't like it (if it isn't broken, don't fix it), good things may come out of it... who the hell I'm kidding, all I want is a western release of KanColle, damn it!
Oh and don't fuck up souls.
BlackIronCount
Member
time to start dreaming
finally a FMP season 3 (in a form of video game), a Slayers RPG , or a proper Kancolle game in HD.
finally a FMP season 3 (in a form of video game), a Slayers RPG , or a proper Kancolle game in HD.
BlackLagoon
Member
Back in 2012, Stranger (as a 360 exclusive), Students PSP and Demon Gaze were all annouced as part of a larger Kadokawa Games / Experience partnership called "DRPG Progress". With Experience self-publishing Stranger now it looks like this is no longer a thing, but for a while the two seemingly had long-term plans.
vagabondarts
Member
I. Wow. This.
No! They need time to grow and stretch first! I just discovered their games
To clarify what i said earlier, i wouldn't want Microsoft to buy From, since i play most games on PC and i don't even have a current gen console, but i'm just thinking they could be a good asset, if you're trying to win back the hardcore cred, like they are trying to do.
Also Sony is scaling back, or just getting more efficent? TBH the only reason why i'd buy a ps4, wiiu or xbone, is exactly for those exclusives that come from first party.
Everything else goes multiplatform, usually, sooner or later.
:O
Now i remember! That's why i assumed that all the Experience DRPGs were under Kadokawa!
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
No one has mentioned it yet, but some people might be more familiar with Kadokawa Games if we used the old name for them -- ASCII Games.
i don't know if it bad or good
but
http://www.giantbomb.com/kadokawa-games/3010-7585/
most of their games published only in japan
but
http://www.giantbomb.com/kadokawa-games/3010-7585/
most of their games published only in japan
Better stay that way too, last thing we need is a big player buying up a bunch of studios then going 'nm dont care anymore' and shitcanning everything.
It's alarming nevertheless. It's always disquieting when a larger company buys a smaller one, doubly so when it's a seemingly viable one being bought by a relative unknown in the gaming business.
Interesting, then the threads of connection must've been there all along. I need to look into what happened with Agetec, being owned by a larger company would explain why they're ostensibly still around, but that kind of rename implies a full split.
Delusibeta
Banned
To be more specific, Wikipedia says Kadokawa Games was a merging of the game divisions of ASCII, Enterbrain and Kadokawa.
Yes, Enterbrain as in "the folks who publish Famitsu".
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I must be the only person in the world who has more interest in their titles like Echo Night and Kuon.
Well, I hope they're allowed to continue what they're doing. Part of the reason I like From Software a lot is that they make games that are different to what others are making and are evidently passion projects for those involved.
Also surprised so many people didn't realize From Software was so small. Most of their catalog before the Dark Soul games consisted of niche games, mostly of the RPG, horror, and mecha variety. And most of their titles were published in countries outside Japan by indie translation studios.
Well, I hope they're allowed to continue what they're doing. Part of the reason I like From Software a lot is that they make games that are different to what others are making and are evidently passion projects for those involved.
Also surprised so many people didn't realize From Software was so small. Most of their catalog before the Dark Soul games consisted of niche games, mostly of the RPG, horror, and mecha variety. And most of their titles were published in countries outside Japan by indie translation studios.
BibiMaghoo
Member
djplaeskool
Member
I don't think many people realize just how big Kadokawa is.
Good acquisition for them. I don't think this will change anything at From.
Good acquisition for them. I don't think this will change anything at From.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
The only thing that worries me is the new ownership continuing to let From not advance the Souls franchise. For all the sales and building fanbase, the series has not advanced much in the graphics and gameplay department.
It's time for FROM to start evolving the game because it's becoming predictable.
It's time for FROM to start evolving the game because it's becoming predictable.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I just remembered Kadokawa games publish many of Grasshopper Manufacturer's games, so I don't think there is much to worry about. If they will fund and publish those games, I assume they're very open to unique games aimed at niches.