From memory, couldn't see a difference, but it's 1:15am in the UK and I'm knackered so in bed now, lolDoes it make the picture look a lot better?
Supposedly the 22 only gives 8 bit and the 20 will give you 10 bit for your hdr
From memory, couldn't see a difference, but it's 1:15am in the UK and I'm knackered so in bed now, lol
Will try more games tomorrow and see what results I get for each mode and report back here.
Hmm, says 4K Ultra HD, but maybe they just slap that label on everything.
I meant the TVs native App.
So I cannot play games on PC mode. Game mode input lag is fast and responsive, but when I tried to play BF1 on the KS8000 it was miserable until I switched to game mode.
Anyone have some setting setting recommendations for a moderately lit room? Darker tones especially look washed out.
Currently have
Backlight: 12
Brightness: 45 (Any lower and I lose black range)
Contrast: 100
Sharpness: 20
Smart LED is at High
HDMI black level low (I'm fairly certain this needs to be normal and then lower my brightness to compensate, black level normal is limited as opposed to full I'm assuming?
Edit: Yea black clipping tests are not showing properly at low.
Dynamic Contrast Medium
Color Tone: Warm 1 (I know this should probably be warm 2, but I like a little more blue)
Gamma: 0
Also should you set the Xbox one to 10 bit color? When I do everything gets hella dark.
The little tv stand it comes with, I read somewhere saying that they can be mounted in two different positions. Most pics have the two stand feets placed near the end of the tv, but supposedly you can mount the feet stands closer to the center?
After a certain size. 65 inch has it for sure, I used the middle holes.
Absolutely cannot get rid of colour banding. It mainly happens on the Pro though, even when the VR social screen is displaying on the TV. (Uk ks7000)
Hdr content on the PC (Shadow Warrior 2) is great and the Amazon Video app had incredible looking HDR content. No colour banding.
lAnyone else mount their 65KS8000 yet?
Just did mine and it seems like the top of the tv has more slack(?) then the bottom. Using the spacers that came with the TV, with 45mm M8 hex bolts
Got a decent portion of the thread in but this still makes me paranoid lol
Fudged around some more and ended with this, which is the best I seem to be able to get it.
Backlight: 10
Brightness: 45 (Any lower and I lose black range)
Contrast: 100
Sharpness: 20
Smart LED: High
HDMI Black Level: Normal
Dynamic Contrast: High
Color Tone: Warm1
Man PC mode is a pain.
Back of the tv on the left and the wall on the right lol.l
I am very drunk, but wtf am I looking at?
I am freaking out lol
Sharpness adds artificial white lines around objects. You are introducing something artificial to the picture. Try turning it up on high and look closely at the screen and you will see what I am talking about clearly.
Warm 2 is the standard. However its if its too warm for you then Warm 1 isn't horrible. I would set it to Warm 2 and try to get used to it and that is what professionally calibrated sets use.
Dynamic Contrast should be turned off. Having at high is messing up brightness, black levels, and pretty much everything else. Dynamic contrast essentially blows out whites and blacks. What this means is that both are crushed which eliminates details in bright and dark areas.
These settings are particularly bad in HDR mode. HDR is all about delivering an accurate lifelike picture. Introducing artificial elements like sharpness and dynamic contrast goes against that and contradicts what content creators intended the viewer to see.
The little tv stand it comes with, I read somewhere saying that they can be mounted in two different positions. Most pics have the two stand feets placed near the end of the tv, but supposedly you can mount the feet stands closer to the center?
After a certain size. 65 inch has it for sure, I used the middle holes.
Can anybody confirm this on the 55"?Same with 60"
I understand that, and I didn't want to turn many of these settings on, but just for general use on my desktop, everything is very very washed out if I don't use normal black levels. Turning those up helped to bring the image back to a tolerable level without losing the highlights and blacks during clipping tests.
As for Sharpness that's simply my personal preference. I normally have my sharpness below 20 which doesn't introduce any lines, not sure if 30 even does here. But I like the slightly exaggerated look from the sharpness. 30 really isn't that high on this set.
Looks like nobody answered my question, I guess I will ask again.
How does this TV look while Watching Sports, or normal HD channels like CNN or shows on hbo, etc
Not streaming.
(Hockey ideally)
Can anybody confirm this on the 55"?
Sharpness adds artificial white lines around objects. You are introducing something artificial to the picture. Try turning it up on high and look closely at the screen and you will see what I am talking about clearly.
Warm 2 is the standard. However its if its too warm for you then Warm 1 isn't horrible. I would set it to Warm 2 and try to get used to it and that is what professionally calibrated sets use.
Dynamic Contrast should be turned off. Having at high is messing up brightness, black levels, and pretty much everything else. Dynamic contrast essentially blows out whites and blacks. What this means is that both are crushed which eliminates details in bright and dark areas.
These settings are particularly bad in HDR mode. HDR is all about delivering an accurate lifelike picture. Introducing artificial elements like sharpness and dynamic contrast goes against that and contradicts what content creators intended the viewer to see.
I saw on rtings.com that they recommend turning on HDMI UHD Color for PC's. It didn't make anything better for me but maybe try that.
Also sharpness above 0 introduces lines. Its just how it works. Its not making the image itself look sharper its making the artificial lines bolder/bigger as the setting is increased. Its just less apparent at low settings.
I watch a lot of hockey and it looks great. Samsung and Sony have the best internal scaling tech on the market. A lot of hockey is 720p so I made sure before I bought the set that it could handle that well and it does. I considered the Vizio P series but apparantly Vizio sets don't handle 720p content well. I returned two 1080p Sony sets because of terrible gray uniformity (dirty screen effect) which when bad makes watching hockey torture because its entirely horizontal movement on a white background. It was the first thing I tested on the TV and I was happy to not see DSE's to any noticeable degree.
This only exists on the 60" and 65" inch models.
Damn, that's a shame.This only exists on the 60" and 65" inch models.
So I cannot play games on PC mode. Game mode input lag is fast and responsive, but when I tried to play BF1 on the KS8000 it was miserable until I switched to game mode.
Anyone have some setting setting recommendations for a moderately lit room? Darker tones especially look washed out.
Currently have
Backlight: 12
Brightness: 45 (Any lower and I lose black range)
Contrast: 100
Sharpness: 20
Smart LED is at High
HDMI black level low (I'm fairly certain this needs to be normal and then lower my brightness to compensate, black level normal is limited as opposed to full I'm assuming?
Edit: Yea black clipping tests are not showing properly at low.
Dynamic Contrast Medium
Color Tone: Warm 1 (I know this should probably be warm 2, but I like a little more blue)
Gamma: 0
Looks like nobody answered my question, I guess I will ask again.
How does this TV look while Watching Sports, or normal HD channels like CNN or shows on hbo, etc
Not streaming.
(Hockey ideally)
Dynamic contrast is needed for hdr on this set. I have also read in HDR it does not have the negative effects it does to sdr content
Is hockey noticeably a huge upgrade over normal LCD tv's like the Haier, or lower class samsung/sony models.
HDMI black level? Is that talking about it's RGB range. How many options are there to select from?
Where did you read this? I might be going off old information which is why I have a general stigma toward it.
Fudged around some more and ended with this, which is the best I seem to be able to get it.
Backlight: 10
Brightness: 45 (Any lower and I lose black range)
Contrast: 100
Sharpness: 20
Smart LED: High
HDMI Black Level: Normal
Dynamic Contrast: High
Color Tone: Warm1
Man PC mode is a pain.
black level is the same as video range, and only has two settings, full or limited. Samsung translation is normal or low.
I think sound coming out of TVs are trash and have an LG sound bar that I like quite a bit. I bought at BB and it has a wireless sub. Was around $215.About to buy the 65" tonight, any good sound bar that I could get with it at best buy?
Is that even needed? Could I wing it with the TV's own speakers or is that a waste?
I was finally able to get results I am happy with in HDR and regular mode.
Initially I was one of the people that was not sure if HDR is on at all but now the HDR effect
is clearly visible in Last of Us and First Light.
Everything was calibrated using the Disney WOW Blu Ray (which I absolutely recommend).
Regular content
PS4 settings:
- Set all PS4 Display options to Automatic
- Set RGB range to Full
TV settings:
- Make sure your Firmware is at least '1142'
- Set Picture Mode to Movie (if not available, turn off Game Mode, set, then turn Game Mode back on)
- Make sure 'Picture Size/Fit to Screen' is on
- Backlight: 10 (depends on the brightness of your room)
- Brightness: 45
- Contrast: 97
- Sharpness: 20 (this especially helps 1080p content)
- Color: 53
- Tint (G/R): G53/R47
- Smart LED: High
- HDMI UHD Color (Set to ON and leave it)
- Dynamic Contrast: Off
- Color Tone: Wam1
- Gamma: 0
- Color Space: Auto
HDR content
Same settings as above except manually switch to:
- Backlight: 20
- Dynamic Contrast: Medium
Also. To the dude above using warm1. Use whatever floats your boat but I would strongly reccomend at least doing some more testing on warm 2. It's so much more natural to look at imo
Not really sure why you have any sharpness. I've always read to have 0 on this set but I'm very uninformed
Care to fill me in?
Also are you getting a y22 signal on ps output display? Or are you forcing the y20?
do you use these settings for cable tv and ps4?
I was finally able to get results I am happy with in HDR and regular mode.
Initially I was one of the people that was not sure if HDR is on at all but now the HDR effect
is clearly visible in Last of Us and First Light.
Everything was calibrated using the Disney WOW Blu Ray (which I absolutely recommend).
Regular content
PS4 settings:
- Set all PS4 Display options to Automatic
- Set RGB range to Full
TV settings:
- Make sure your Firmware is at least '1142'
- Set Picture Mode to Movie (if not available, turn off Game Mode, set, then turn Game Mode back on)
- Make sure 'Picture Size/Fit to Screen' is on
- Backlight: 10 (depends on the brightness of your room)
- Brightness: 45
- Contrast: 97
- Sharpness: 20 (this especially helps 1080p content)
- Color: 53
- Tint (G/R): G53/R47
- Smart LED: High
- HDMI UHD Color (Set to ON and leave it)
- Dynamic Contrast: Off
- Color Tone: Wam1
- Gamma: 0
- Color Space: Auto
HDR content
Same settings as above except manually switch to:
- Backlight: 20
- Dynamic Contrast: Medium
I saw on rtings.com that they recommend turning on HDMI UHD Color for PC's. It didn't make anything better for me but maybe try that.
Also sharpness above 0 introduces lines. Its just how it works. Its not making the image itself look sharper its making the artificial lines bolder/bigger as the setting is increased. Its just less apparent at low settings.
HDMI black level? Is that talking about it's RGB range. How many options are there to select from?
Leave sharpness to 0. Samsungs work differently than Sony's. 0 sharpness on a samsung is the default image. Sony's work on a 0 to 100 scale, where 50 is baseline. Anything below is artificial blurriness, whereas anything about 50 is artificial sharpness.
So on samsungs you want it on 0. On Sony's you want it on 50.
Also, you turned on HDMI UHD Color ON right? You can't get HDR without doing that.
I was finally able to get results I am happy with in HDR and regular mode.
Initially I was one of the people that was not sure if HDR is on at all but now the HDR effect
is clearly visible in Last of Us and First Light.
Everything was calibrated using the Disney WOW Blu Ray (which I absolutely recommend).
Regular content
PS4 settings:
- Set all PS4 Display options to Automatic
- Set RGB range to Full
TV settings:
- Make sure your Firmware is at least '1142'
- Set Picture Mode to Movie (if not available, turn off Game Mode, set, then turn Game Mode back on)
- Make sure 'Picture Size/Fit to Screen' is on
- Backlight: 10 (depends on the brightness of your room)
- Brightness: 45
- Contrast: 97
- Sharpness: 20 (this especially helps 1080p content)
- Color: 53
- Tint (G/R): G53/R47
- Smart LED: High
- HDMI UHD Color (Set to ON and leave it)
- Dynamic Contrast: Off
- Color Tone: Wam1
- Gamma: 0
- Color Space: Auto
HDR content
Same settings as above except manually switch to:
- Backlight: 20
- Dynamic Contrast: Medium