Great, will be perfect to put them all side by side here. Lightning overload.
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Lightning Returns trailer
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Great, will be perfect to put them all side by side here. Lightning overload.
Meccanical
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At least that initial sketch will always look good.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I took the screengrab just as she's doing a spinning motion, so the graphics got messed up :lol
Hmm, maybe. Didn't XIII-2 get Lightning on the cover while EU got the slick, "regular" FF-cover?
Broder Salsa
Banned
Corset technology gets more and more advanced in the future.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Seems like the square changes colors and then eventually breaks (when it turns red)? I don't know why there are multiple squares on the behemoth though... maybe it's like a soft enrage - where if you break the enemy multiple times you won't be able to stagger them anymore?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
One of the worst trailers I've ever seen for a big game. The backdrop when she gets off the train looked like a PS1 FMV, horrendous slowdown during the Assassin's Creed bits, dull combat encounter and a voiceover that's about as interesting as a wet piece of cardboard.
Awful. The only reason this game exists is to satisfy the wanking needs of the lonely manchildren at SE.
Awful. The only reason this game exists is to satisfy the wanking needs of the lonely manchildren at SE.
GreenMakoEyes
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I don't expect a lot of CGs in LRFFXIII.. there will be just a few I think, maybe the beginning and ending.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
XIII-2 had lacking CG as well
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
At exactly 1:02, you can clearly see that Lightning attacks twice (the "attack"-button pulsates twice) and then she uses guard just as the behemoth attacks her. Reactionary gameplay ftw No need to plan ahead and cancel your buffered moves!
No need to plan ahead and cancel your buffered moves!
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I took her nose.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
After the warm reception the trailer got at the Square Enix headquarters they must be popping champagne bottles
I honestly think they're completely oblivious to most things regarding fan reception to the XIII games.
The only reason they became aware of the originals complaints (or started to care), was because western games media continuously hounded them in interviews about the linearity and lack of towns post release. (something they rarely seem to do with certain western developers when they step a foot wrong)
At exactly 1:02, you can clearly see that Lightning attacks twice (the "attack"-button pulsates twice) and then she uses guard just as the behemoth attacks her. Reactionary gameplay ftw
You are late Yoshi!
:lol
Anyway, I think I got how the new ATB works.
Here is a gif:
The top rectangle on the right represents the new "paradigms" or whatever they will be called. Here Lightning is on the Divinity one. I noticed there is also a Cerberus one, with different attacks/magics/abilities, which further proves my point.
So, you can see that while she is attacking the attack rectangle is popping up, well, thats because the player is pressing the respective button on the controller (duh!). Yeah, so, looks like its basically:
Triangle = Basic Magic
Circle = Physical Attack
X = Advanced Magic
Square = Guard
Now how many attacks can she do? The superior bar on the sword thing there reduces while she attacks so thats what will restrict the times you attack. Its likely to cool down after that. Its probably when you will have to doge the attacks or guard. The other bar is obviously her health.
I also noticed some little squares under the monster HP bar, I'm supposing that is going to be something similar to the stagger bar somehow. Maybe when its empty you will deal more damage, or be able to launch the enemy.
The only thing we don't know about is that circular thing with 10000 points...
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I'm thinking that every class in the game has a set of moves - and that you can "choose" between four of them. For example, the class Cerberus uses the following skills:
- Light Slash
- Heavy Slash
- Blizzaga
- Blizzara
- Demi
- Sweeping Strikes
And you can't have all of these active, so I choose four of these for my Cerberus class.
Also, Divinity seems to use "Guard" while Cerberus uses "Evade". Or maybe they're not exclusive to the class (and that they're options just like any other move)?
... I'm slowly reading through the thread! Wish I would've actually been here "live" as the trailer was released ._.
- Light Slash
- Heavy Slash
- Blizzaga
- Blizzara
- Demi
- Sweeping Strikes
And you can't have all of these active, so I choose four of these for my Cerberus class.
Also, Divinity seems to use "Guard" while Cerberus uses "Evade". Or maybe they're not exclusive to the class (and that they're options just like any other move)?
Fuck, I'm so sorry
... I'm slowly reading through the thread! Wish I would've actually been here "live" as the trailer was released ._.GreenMakoEyes
Member
I absolutely love SE's CGs, but games with an investment level of FFXIII-2/LRFFXIII don't allow much more CG I think :/XIII-2 had lacking CG as well
Thats what it was. I knew the battle theme was different but thinking back over it , it sounded like a lazy remix
Barkley's Justice
Member
like looking into a ps2 time machine
Eh, looks good enough for me, but I'm not a graphic whore like some of you are. The town needs some polishing, should look more crowded and complex like Academia, but it seems that there's way more exploration than even XIII-2, so I'm looking towards it. Battle System is good enough and at least you can change costumes.
Will definitely keep an eye on it.
Will definitely keep an eye on it.
BigBadShamoo
Banned
SE's CGs are amazing. Your avatar is just one of the moments in SE history I adore. I even noticed a distinct style in their CG scenes.
Like for instance, in the deep dive trailer where (for spoiler purposes I won't say the name) but the hooded character pictured in your Avatar is fighting the Neo- heartless during that trailer he jumps up into air the with both keyblades slashing infront of him and behind him. Now if you look at Final Fantasy 7:Advent Children where Cloud is fighting the two henchman in the ancient forest, cloud at one point jumps up into the air and does a simliar if not the same spinning slash move.
It's just something I've noticed lol.
I love animation.I'd get some cool gifs, but I don't know how to do that yet lol.
EDIT:
Found some youtubes
http://youtu.be/UEEWV5xBTqY?t=1m9s
This at 1:09
and http://youtu.be/87tDO1_nofE?t=1m5s at 1:05
Similiar but still soo cool looking. I've watched both clips sooooo many times. It never gets old.
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Fixed Copy pasta link error
I'll be honest I agree. The battle system and Gran Pulse were the only two things that enticed me to finish 13. It certainly wasn't the shit cast and incomprehensible story.
Fixed.
Reisläufer
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Has anyone already catched the third class appearing in the trailer: Enchanter (visible for around a second at 0:59). Also Lightning's costume and weapon/shield seem to change with her class. Enchanter is hard to make out (the sword looks different to me), but the Cerberus costume is clearly different.
Concerning my thoughts on the game, I actually really like the redesign of Lightning, to the extent that I'm thinking about getting this game after skiping XIII-2. The trailer shows some really unfinished looking bits and pieces though, so I kind of understand where all the hate is coming from.
Concerning my thoughts on the game, I actually really like the redesign of Lightning, to the extent that I'm thinking about getting this game after skiping XIII-2. The trailer shows some really unfinished looking bits and pieces though, so I kind of understand where all the hate is coming from.
Disc space is also being taken into consideration after what happened with FFXIII. They opted to do more cutscenes in real time for XIII-2 to save on file size.
GreenMakoEyes
Member
yeah nice, good find!SE's CGs are amazing. Your avatar is just one of the moments in SE history I adore. I even noticed a distinct style in their CG scenes.
Like for instance, in the deep dive trailer where (for spoiler purposes I won't say the name) but the hooded character pictured in your Avatar is fighting the Neo- heartless during that trailer he jumps up into air the with both keyblades slashing infront of him and behind him. Now if you look at Final Fantasy 7:Advent Children where Cloud is fighting the two henchman in the ancient forest, cloud at one point jumps up into the air and does a simliar if not the same spinning slash move.
It's just something I've noticed lol.
I'd get some cool gifs, but I don't know how to do that yet lol.
EDIT:
Found some youtubes
http://youtu.be/UEEWV5xBTqY?t=1m9s
This at 1:09
and http://youtu.be/87tDO1_nofE?t=1m5s at 1:05
Similiar but still soo cool looking. I've watched both clips sooooo many times. It never gets old.
EDIT:
Fixed Copy pasta link error
and I really hope we get that deep dive video in HD in KH 1.5 ReMIX.
Giolon
Member
It looked fine to me. FF games have had ridiculous outfits for years. It just comes as part of the territory. I enjoy seeing the crazy "clothing" ideas they come up with. I'll be interested to see how they keep combat interesting with only 1 character available, but the Lightning Episode DLC in FFXIII-2 was pretty fun.
I am glad they're making this. The state they left the world in at the end of FFXIII-2 was pretty shitty. So, color me cautiously excited.
I am glad they're making this. The state they left the world in at the end of FFXIII-2 was pretty shitty. So, color me cautiously excited.
BlazingDarkness
Member
The graphics are kinda eh
but everything else looks awesome
Day one!
but everything else looks awesome
Day one!
GreenMakoEyes
Member
I am pretty happy SE won't go this way with Versus XIII. Last thing I read about Versus XIII's GCs was a ration of 7:3 (real time : CG)
Considering they already redid scenes that were real time into CG, such as the one when Noctis meets Stella... I suspect Versus XIII will have a bit more, yes.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Kinda lame that everyone's dogging on the visuals
Would you rather have pretty corridors a la FFXIII or something not quite as pretty but fully explorable? For me there is no question as to which I'd rather have
Game does look super early but as a premise it's really exciting
Would you rather have pretty corridors a la FFXIII or something not quite as pretty but fully explorable? For me there is no question as to which I'd rather have
Game does look super early but as a premise it's really exciting
Relaxed Muscle
Member
That's pretty lame, is basically 2 characters talking....
The idea that Nomura is trying to convey is the characters expressions, which can be done much more efficiently in CG.
Didn't Nomura also say that there really won't be any proper in-engine cutscenes where the player won't have some sort of control? I think he compared it to FPS way of cutscenes. That's why there's the 70-30 CG ratio.
Lightning has to go to Math Station to get Geometry for the town
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I don't like overuse of CG in games.Seeing what some developers managed with the facial expressions in thins gen (real-time) still seems like a waste of money, but well at this point can't hurt much more.
BigBadShamoo
Banned
It seems Youtube removed the video
... again.
... again.
Meccanical
Member
I just rewatched the trailer and I literally burst out laughing when I saw that.
I know it says North, but it will always be math station to me.
BigBadShamoo
Banned
Huzzah, someone should update the OP.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
How can someone screwup a sign. I mean seriously.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
I will prefer they could do a pretty explorable HD town, specially this late in the cycle.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Well given how much money they've sunk into FFXIV relaunch and Versus XIII and the fact that LR is the third game in a somewhat lukewarmly received franchise it's no surprise it's not the prettiest looking thing, the budget is probably quite modest, still, if it's explorable and full of content that's all that matters
AuthenticM
Member
Wasn't it the other way around ? I remember when they talked about this subject, the information was super confusing. I recall someone at Square saying that they had converted multiple CG scenes into real-time seeing as the engine was good enough to handle it, but at the same time said that some other scenes had been converted to CG, such as the scene where Noctis meets Stella for the first time.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I definitely remember the article being cryptic and confusing, as if something had been lost in translation.
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