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Looks like major changes coming to Pokemon GO's tracking system...
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Gunmonkey36
Member
FYI, The pokestop nearness tracking is ONLY for select USERS.
AKA if you think you are gonna log in and have this you are almost certainly gonna be disappointed.
AKA if you think you are gonna log in and have this you are almost certainly gonna be disappointed.
The sightings everyone will see. The 'nearby' section is for select users only for time being.
It's no longer a completely separate problem when the new tracking design is based on pokestops.
Ahh gotcha, makes sense. Hopefully the nearby stuff comes soon then.
Oh good, just make the game better and better for people in big cities surrounded by Pokestops.
All of us playing in smaller cities, towns and villages, or in the suburbs can just do one I guess. Rural players? What are they? Niantic sure as hell doesn't know.
This is total garbage and takes the game further and further away from it's promise. Would it not make infinitely more sense to have areas with more stops have less pokemon, and vice versa? That way city types get the advantage of items but have to come out to the sticks to actually catch anything good, and those of us away from the bright lights of civilization get easy access to good Pokemon but have to head to a town to stock up.
Y'know. Like in every Pokemon game.
All of us playing in smaller cities, towns and villages, or in the suburbs can just do one I guess. Rural players? What are they? Niantic sure as hell doesn't know.
This is total garbage and takes the game further and further away from it's promise. Would it not make infinitely more sense to have areas with more stops have less pokemon, and vice versa? That way city types get the advantage of items but have to come out to the sticks to actually catch anything good, and those of us away from the bright lights of civilization get easy access to good Pokemon but have to head to a town to stock up.
Y'know. Like in every Pokemon game.
Toadthemushroom
Member
Great point!
butzopower
proud of his butz
I feel like AR social games will always be made for people who live in cities.
What if your small town did have a gym in it, are you going to blame Niantic that there aren't enough people living near you to fight at it? What about when they add battling?
I saw a lot of the same complaints about StreetPass, people in small towns being upset about the games requiring other people to be near them. It's the nature of augmented reality, reality is an input to it, and so your surroundings WILL affect your experience.
What if your small town did have a gym in it, are you going to blame Niantic that there aren't enough people living near you to fight at it? What about when they add battling?
I saw a lot of the same complaints about StreetPass, people in small towns being upset about the games requiring other people to be near them. It's the nature of augmented reality, reality is an input to it, and so your surroundings WILL affect your experience.
Yep, thats why in all the other Pokemon games we wandered city streets looking for Pokemon.
How your surroundings affect the experience is entirely in the hands of the developers, theres no reason it has to be dogshit outside built up urban areas.
visiblemode
Member
Looks like it's live for me, but only "sightings" are within range so I can't test the tracking yet.
of course there is a reason to be dogshit, can you imagine the work required to every suburb on every city on every country on every continet?! thats the reason they used INGRESS Data,
if you want pokestops around your neighborhood (beating the porpuse of the game of going out) then wait until you can nominate places to be pokestops
Conkerkid11
Member
Maybe it has more to do with the fact that this isn't tracking, and is actually just telling you which Pokestop currently has a Pokemon at it? There's still no way to track down actual nearby Pokémon like there was at launch.
But no, Niantic can do no wrong. It is a Pokémon game after all.
I played a shit ton at launch. I hit level 20, then slowed down because the weather outside disagreed with what I wanted to do, then they removed tracking and I stopped playing altogether. Now they're adding an inferior tracking method, and all the fanboys are saying it's better than before.
This is the kind of feature to include at launch. They haven't even suggested they would be adding it. The last and only thing they said was they were considering adding it back into Ingress.
I don't know anybody whose begging for more gyms to be added to the game. Gyms aren't essential to progressing through the game. Pokestops are.
This would probably be beneficial to them in the long run as well. As it stands, I'm assuming more people living in cities play this game than in other areas, and if a majority of the players have no problem with running low on Pokeballs because there's a Pokestop around every corner, they're less likely to make any money off them.
Unless that Aerodactyl is located on top of a Pokestop, this won't help you find it.
JinjoUnchained
Member
Don't know is if this has been mentioned, but I was riding passenger in a car with Pokemon Go on and the game detected my speed and gave me a message to confirm that I was in fact the passenger and not driving while playing.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
I guess the people talking about the game doing nothing for rural areas say the same thing when cities get more government funding, more services, more transit, more restaurants, and higher cost of living expenses.
butzopower
proud of his butz
Let me know the next time you find yourself in a cave somewhere with good enough phone signal to start catching some Geodudes. Just don't think video game logic will port over to AR.
I'm in a city, though, so I'm not actually feeling your pain, and I'm sure it does make the game much less enjoyable not having easy access to items. Half the poke stops I hit, I can't even get items since my bags full, it'd be cool if I could donate my excess stuff to other players or something.
Diablohead
Member
I live near a few poke stops but that's only if I walk towards my town, most other directions are empty spaces and all I catch right now are rattatas and pidgeys.
This updated pokemon tracker isn't going to help me much at all.
This updated pokemon tracker isn't going to help me much at all.
How is giving the same level of tracking efficiency to every pokemon not just those at pokestop, more work ?
It so reward that purpose that it encourage you to find the place with the least distance between the highest amount of pokestop, first because the cooldown on pokestop is soo incredibly small, and now because it's where you will be able to waste the least amount of time to catch pokemon you are interested in since pokestop will also offer better tracking.
You know what is pretty much not rewarded ? going out on a 10km run, on a road ( known by google map, so their API know it's a road, so they could choose to spawn pokemons there, not hand pick it aka more work, as a automated process ) if that road is slightly out of a city.
At that point their next step should be to make egg not based on distance traveled, but on number of pokestop activated; I'm pretty sure some people could defend it. It's an AR game what did you expect ?
The irony is that this is only going to cause more accidents because drivers playing Pokemon GO now have additional dialogue boxes to manage.
kyan_hexagon
Neo Member
My gf was in the passenger seat playing and in a 15 min drive it asked her three times.
TheCongressman1
Member
This is a great addition, assuming it will actually work.
Acerac
Banned
We want the game to work as well as it did when it released. I've seldom met somebody who posts so much but is so uninterested in hearing what the other party has to say. We've been excessively clear about this.
It reminds me of trying to talk TheYanger when discussing the differences between classic and modern WoW. At a certain point there is no longer any debate to be had, as we've made our points dozens of times but you still seem to go out of your way to not understand it.
mangochutney
Member
Can anyone confirm is they are always inside this area?Pokestops themselves emit a pulse. So I imagine any pokemon you're currently tracking will be inside that pulse.
If it is, isn't this nothing more than a glorified map? Game shows a list of nearby Pokestops... tap the Pokestop, get told exactly where to go, then the radar shows exactly where the Pokemon is?
hemo memo
Gold Member
Ah okay that's why. I thought my luck was bad.
butzopower
proud of his butz
We've been waiting YEARS!!! I can't believe it!
Prevolition
Member
Axon 7??So good.
Getting a new phone in the next week or so, I'll be joining you guys soon.
What team should I join though?
Go Mystic or Instinct
Yes.
Take is as mix of Pokevision and old hunting system. People who want to hunt specific pokemons in their list can rely on Pokespots while others want to play vanilla will rely on sighting.
Then maybe they should pay attention to the warning and not play the game while driving?
Weltall Zero
Member
Whoa, this is way more generous than I expected. Pretty great as it still makes you walk around but at least not entirely aimlessly like before.
I feel the pain of ruralGAF though, yet again those without pokestops are kind of screwed. :/
I feel the pain of ruralGAF though, yet again those without pokestops are kind of screwed. :/
Yes, it's a problem for people who live miles from the next person, but the game has issues serving city suburbs too. That's not some small minority. I don't think your post captures that reality.
There are poke stops here, but generally miles between them. This tracking won't do much for us.
Fox Mulder
Member
The game is built for city play. More people filled out Ingress locations, you get a fuckload more items, there's safe public spaces to walk, and you don't have to drive as much.
They likely don't want people roaming the woods and rural areas even though it would make more sense to find more pokemon there.
chrominance
Member
On the one hand, you have people asking for pokestops and gyms to be taken down because they're people's homes, instead of quasi-public spaces and buildings. On the other hand, you have suburban and rural people crying for more pokestops.
Not that there couldn't be more pokestops in those areas--seems like lots of people in this thread have talked about places in their small towns and suburbs that could work as a pokestop but aren't marked as one yet. But at some point, there is an upper limit on how many pokestops you're going to get, and that's entirely up to the built form of the place you live in. When nearly everything around you is private property with no expectation of public or even semi-public access, like the residential cul de sacs of a suburb, where exactly do you expect pokemon and pokestops to be placed without incurring the wrath of the people who own those properties?
I'm sorry but that is a terrible idea both from a business sense and a gameplay sense.
City folk have tons of items, with nothing to use them on. Frustration.
Rural folk have tons of pokemon, but no items. Frustration.
You also have to realize the technical limitations. Just think about writing code for where pokemon spawn globally. It has to be infinitely easier to write an algorithm that focuses on densely populated areas, parks, intersections, schools etc. rather than one that randomly places pokemon far away from roads or landmarks.
And for what it's worth, some of the most rare pokemon I've caught have been in rural areas or the suburbs. I live in a small town and have a pokedex of 122. One of 3 Charmanders that I've caught was in a town with a population of about 50. The only Pikachu I've ever seen in the wild was in a suburban area 5-10 minutes by car away from the closest pokestop. I think the game works surprisingly well away from big cities.
My experience is way better. Sure there's less Pokémon showing on the radar now, but from what I understand it's because it now doesn't show Pokémon that really aren't there anymore unlike the old system. So in other words now what you see on the radar, are Pokémon that actually are nearby, no more, no less. And I've caught way more not-so-common Pokémon now than before the update. When before it was like 1 uncommon vs. 30 common Pokémon. It's now more like 1 uncommon vs 15 common Pokémon in the same period of time spent walking (and I go basically the same routes every day).
You don't live in the right neighborhood.
The tracking is for a few beta testers (basically).
Bullocks, there's a Sightings section that so far seems to work perfectly fine.
Ironic considering that apparently websites like Pokevision were apparently the best way to play, and they did almost exactly that.
Unless you hit level 20 in a week, there's been no proper tracking officially in Go! for most of the time it has been active. Plus Niantic doesn't control the weather.
Weren't you going to put me on ignore?
Also you're aware that I can understand your point but not agree with it, yeah? That that is a thing?
*cyrilfiggisjustjackinit.gif*GPS freaked out as I lie in bed. lol
