hodayathink
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Invisible Woman is better since her buff. Not top tier, but definitely on the IF level of usable if boosted.
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Invisible Woman is better since her buff. Not top tier, but definitely on the IF level of usable if boosted.
took me a long time too. What helped was removing the shield tiles with Spider-Woman. But yes it was tough.
guess I should get that out of the way lol.
and done took about 90 seconds.
should have been faster but despite throwing out 4 5k damage traps none of them got triggered
hodayathink
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Champed Jess, so I threw out the trap tiles and they got matched.
hodayathink
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I went the other way, gave myself about 10 less minutes than I needed and ended up not clearing the last node. At least this means my goal is now top 100 instead of top 20.
Urg, It's hard to tell with how much harder this sub was than the last 2, but I don't think the PC is appreciably faster than mobile. the animations seem to be the same length, so the only variables would be the matches (which might be a hair faster) and cutting out a couple clicks with the powers. Which is only a microsecond faster anyway, since there seems to be a rate delay of like a second between the animation finishing and it accepting clicks.
Maybe a couple minutes over a whole clear? Took about an hour either way
Maybe a couple minutes over a whole clear? Took about an hour either way
Dr Campino
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4-star Captain Marvel has been champed, my 26th 4-star champion.
Later on tonight I should be able to finish off the champing of 3-star Hawkeye (finally), I had plenty of more important folks to champ first.
Later on tonight I should be able to finish off the champing of 3-star Hawkeye (finally), I had plenty of more important folks to champ first.
PalaceBrother
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You guys were right about champing 4* Captain Marvel. Holy crap she's nuts when boosted. 28k health and an easy attack that does 25k damage. Damn. I got the 4* Thor from progression and am at 12/13 covers for her.
I'm still a ways off from champing 3* Hawkeye & Star Lord though....
hodayathink
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added blade and medusa to my champs today.
my 4 star champ collection is starting to look decent
note peggy isn't technically champed, mostly because I have her layout the way I want and haven't gotten another cover for her yet lol.
grocket and carnage are likely my next two targets. I need one more cover for carnage and a few for grocket. that being said I am currently broke after finishing off two 4*s so I have to build up for a while anyways lol.
Carnage + Medusa is just crazy awesome.
my 4 star champ collection is starting to look decent
note peggy isn't technically champed, mostly because I have her layout the way I want and haven't gotten another cover for her yet lol.
grocket and carnage are likely my next two targets. I need one more cover for carnage and a few for grocket. that being said I am currently broke after finishing off two 4*s so I have to build up for a while anyways lol.
Carnage + Medusa is just crazy awesome.
I was running iceman + medusa + carnage.
medusa keeps the team healed and constantly fuels blue and green with carnage's help so it was just a matter of keeping hulk stunned and killing him.
Your wish is my command.
yeah should be 5.
I am personally averaging around 2.
need me some vulture covers, it's a shame I won't have any black ones though.
hmmmm I might actually play around in Vs a bit more if this sticks around
https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/...-changes-in-versus-tournaments-7-20-17#latest
progression rewards in Vs won't be point based anymore instead each time you win a match you will get a victory point.
means I can join right away and beat up the starter teams and that I know exactly how long it will take to get the cover.
https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/...-changes-in-versus-tournaments-7-20-17#latest
progression rewards in Vs won't be point based anymore instead each time you win a match you will get a victory point.
means I can join right away and beat up the starter teams and that I know exactly how long it will take to get the cover.
i think the jump from 4-8 should be from 4-6 instead and then merely 3 wins each per reward after instead of 4.
but either way it will be nice to just do a couple PVP matches here and there to get a 4 star cover I want.;
hodayathink
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It's a change that's good for the more casual players and worse for the hardcore. The hardcore coordinate on Line and shield hop for maximum points per match, so they can get to 900 in 20-25 matches. Most don't and have to deal with getting hammered down and fighting 30-45 point matches instead of 50-60. So for the hardcore, they're having to play more for the same rewards (and CP being moved to placement means they can't get to their most valuable reward without more work and/or getting lucky). But for the casual it means they can start the event at any time and just play matches for progression and not worry about placement. Ideally, the number of matches at the top would come down, and they'd put some CP back above the 4* cover, but right now it's an interesting start.
Yeah, that's waaaaaay more work compared to the existing system. If you wait and search hard enough, the CP is only a dozen fights, max. And the 800-900 covers are like, maybe another 8 more fights after that?
So that's like double the number of fights to get the 4* cover.
For the sake of argument, 900 points over 40 wins would have to be under 22.6 points per match
Right. The new system is a good idea-taking away points and counting wins towards progression. The number of wins however is laughably high. 40 wins???
hodayathink
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To the bolded, not really, at least not for me. 575-900 being 8 matches would mean averaging over 40 points a match. I do not average over 40 points a match once I get to/past 600. Once I get past 800, I'm usually taking anything over 35 I can find, and occasionally have to go as far down as 30 so I'm not unshielded for too long. I agree that the cutoffs are too high right now, but not everyone plays with coordination and skipping everything until they get lucky and find that 50 point match above 700. In other words, people are underestimating how many matches it takes most people to get to 800-900 (If I had to guess, I'd say that overall, people are probably averaging closer to 30-35 points a match than 40-45). Which is why I'd be fine with lowering the 4* cover to 25-30 matches (30-36 points per match) instead of 40.
It might take checking back multiple times over the course of the shield, but I've always been able to queue up at least 2 50 point matches during a final shielded push ~800, without any sort of coordination whatsoever. And for just regular climbing? I almost never go for fights below the break even (38) point, unless they're super easy 3*s, yes those exist even after 700 or whatever
hodayathink
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Slice matters for that as well, though. I'm slice 5, and from what I've heard I think that's actually the worst one when it comes to points.
hodayathink
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I am sorry. I'm pretty close to knowing that pain myself.
The stress of trying to place highly in PVP was never fun for me, so this change is better for me. I'll pick the easiest team to defeat, which should make for faster wins. Still, 40 is a huge number, sigh.
PalaceBrother
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Ouch, that sucks. I've only got one 5* with 4 covers so I'm not there yet. It's frustrating enough when it's a 4*...
I haven't really done any PVP stuff for the last couple of years.I found the grind way too much.
A. I really only do like 10 clears a day for PVE and 6 for DDQ
B. I can do other things while doing it. the fact that it has taken me 2 hours to complete 2 nodes in DDQ is fine meanwhile if I started a PVP crawl and then took 2 hours to complete 2 fights I would likely be hit super hard. PVE I can sit around and do whenever and stop whenever. PVP I have to sit there for a few hours straight grinding to get high enough before I get beaten down.
hodayathink
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The difference is that with PvE, it's a grind that's doable with any roster. PvP is a grind that only works if you have the roster for it. Basically, if you don't have 2 boosted champed 4 stars, you're not hitting 900 unless you shield hop more than a couple times, and that's if you get lucky. Even with them you end up doing it at least once, and possibly more depending on your timing. And that's ignoring the difference in scoring between slices. Moving to a system that relies more on wins than points is a worthwhile place to go when it comes to PvP. They just need to nail the specifics of it, which isn't something they've done for a while now when it comes to these large-scale changes.
spatenfloot
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Riri and Mordo getting updates next season.
Ex-fucking-actly. I don't know why anyone would ever give them the benefit of the doubt. The one good change they made (HfH) has been rolled back after a couple months, whereas we have years of terrible decisions that show a fundamental misunderstanding of how their game actually plays, and actively disrespects their players.
Interesting Im in the process of getting Mordo champed (Tired of wasting covers,) And RiRi is my 2nd highest covered 4 star (lol.)
hodayathink
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The last large scale change that they got mostly correct was, depending on your viewpoints, either the switch away from 8 hour refreshes for PvE, or introducing Championing, and both of those came with valid complaints.
Riri seems like good changes
I don't know what to make of mordo's changes
looks like the spiderman event will work the same as last time.
your rewards will be loki and riri. which will make my riri 2/5/6 :/ personal rewards are not worth mentioning.
also fair warning I am not going to be too helpful in august.
the first half of the month I don't know how much internet I will have in general. at best I might hotspot in enough to do DDQ.
the end of the month I have a con to go to.
idk SCL and champs in general have been pretty solid.
bonus heroes would be solid if it wasn't done at the same time as vaulting. bonus heroes on their own aren't bad. (overall I still don't mind the vaulting)
edit: it seems vulture might not be joining the packs after the season.they will finalize the decision on monday.
I think the only current 4 star I really need covers for is grocket and he will be around for a while so maybe I will hoard.
hodayathink
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Trick is to save your black until she fires one of those two, which buys you four extra turns and, in the case of her black, probably overwrites one of her trap tiles.
Well it's really the ap steal from red that gets me especially since red doesn't only make taps on red anymore
Wait, PvE is even more time constrained. You need to get your final clear in as close to the ending time as possible, probably the last hour or so, and then immediately roll over to getting the initial clear done immediately, and as quickly as possible.
Instead of it being an hour or so to climb from your floating point to where you shield, it's 2 hours, centered around one of the 5 slice times. Every single day.
Instead of it being an hour or so to climb from your floating point to where you shield, it's 2 hours, centered around one of the 5 slice times. Every single day.
hodayathink
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For placement. Not for progression. Max progression is just playing 5 times at any point during the day. Timing is way, way more important when it comes to reaching progression in PvP.
Edit: And honestly, I've gotten to the point where if I wait long enough on the first day before joining a slice (usually slice 5), I can just barely hit above max progression and still be top 100 in PvE in SCL 8.
Double edit: And again, PvP is still roster dependent. Like, everything you just said is only true if you have 2 boosted champed 4 stars for the week. Without that, good luck, as I literally just found out last week.
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