Finished it. Overall really liked it. Netflix is doing a good job with it. First Daredevil and now this. Bit of a slow start of the season but still good. Second part was really good but the ending was abit underwhelming. But overall really enjoyed. Ritter and Tennant both delivered top notch performances.
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Marvel's Jessica Jones |OT| A.K.A. Marvel's A.K.A. Jessica Jones *spoilers for S1*
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Discotheque
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yeah it just takes a huge nosedive as it progresses. started off pretty good though.
Triggerhappytel
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On episode 10 now. This has been absolutely amazing so far; probably even better than Daredevil. I'm definitely interested to see what's going on with
Really really dislike Robyn though - she's so overly animated and dramatic. The idea that she'd
Simpson as well as the 'team' he's rejoined with the doctor. Is he someone who later becomes a villain or something?
Really really dislike Robyn though - she's so overly animated and dramatic. The idea that she'd
rally a group to come in and attack Jessica in her flat (and that they'd comply) is so ridiculous. Unless there's some kind of twist that she has the same powers as Kilgrave too.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Just watched episode 10. I should've been keeping a count of how many times I thought "for fuck's sake" over the course of the episode...
I've really liked it up to this point but...
I'm still looking forward to seeing how it ends though, especially given that this is meant to be the low point of the series from what people have been saying here.
I've really liked it up to this point but...
Everything just seems to be going wrong for the sake of it going wrong. Simpson takes some drugs and now he's out of his mind, Kilgrave got away again, not to mention how Hope is dead, Wendy is dead and Clemons is dead. I'm guessing that the Hogarth subplot is at its end now that Wendy is dead and Pam thinks she's repugnant, which is a shame because I quite liked that tangent.
I just kept thinking that they've still got three episodes left and there's not an awful lot else that can go wrong, really. It's just starting to seem too convenient now - in episode 5 Kilgrave got away because he had some thugs to hand just in case, in episode 9 he got away because the wire was cut, in episode 10 he got away because Robyn is unhinged... Just when Kilgrave is in Jessica's grasp, something happens to snatch him away again.
I just kept thinking that they've still got three episodes left and there's not an awful lot else that can go wrong, really. It's just starting to seem too convenient now - in episode 5 Kilgrave got away because he had some thugs to hand just in case, in episode 9 he got away because the wire was cut, in episode 10 he got away because Robyn is unhinged... Just when Kilgrave is in Jessica's grasp, something happens to snatch him away again.
Nice bit. Thanks for linking.
JCreasy
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My exact impression, to the letter.
Game Informer interview JJ's consulting producer Brian Michael Bendis:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...ones-powers-marvel-films-and-video-games.aspx
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...ones-powers-marvel-films-and-video-games.aspx
SJRB
Gold Member
Just finished it, not sure about this one. I liked how brutal/shocking it was at times, and I really loved David Tennant hamming it up. Carrie-Ann Moss was awesome as well.
But other than that the acting was kinda awful and the finale not so great. Last two to three episodes kinda went nowhere. Not to mention an unsual focus on
I also disliked how Jessica's power levels seem convenient for the moment to let the evil villain get away. One moment she's lifting up a car, the other moment she's getting tackled and pinned by a 60-year-old. Come on..
I greatly prefer Daredevil.
But other than that the acting was kinda awful and the finale not so great. Last two to three episodes kinda went nowhere. Not to mention an unsual focus on
uncontious Luke, who at the moment supreme just vanishes. Eh.. okay? The fight between Jessica and Luke was AWFUL. The show kinda went south when Killgrave escaped the soundproof chamber.
I also disliked how Jessica's power levels seem convenient for the moment to let the evil villain get away. One moment she's lifting up a car, the other moment she's getting tackled and pinned by a 60-year-old. Come on..
I greatly prefer Daredevil.
Lunchbillion
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Malcolm had a surprisingly easy time recovering from his severe heroin addiction
Joyful
Member
all you need is a pep talk
Discotheque
Banned
Terrible finale imo, just ran out of steam to the point where kilgrave's death was eh. There's a good show in here between kilgrave, Jessica, trish and luke cage
But her neighbours, Simpson and whatever other characters really dragged it down.
daredevil >>>>
But her neighbours, Simpson and whatever other characters really dragged it down.
daredevil >>>>
I did like it, but I felt it definitely struggled a bit in the later episodes.
I thought Tennant was great but the Malcom character needs to go. Why was he even around after his KIllgrave interaction finished? The sober Malcom character was extremely cringeworthy and pointless.
I also agree with the others stating how you must divorce this show from other Marvel shows and movies (probably except daredevil).
I thought Tennant was great but the Malcom character needs to go. Why was he even around after his KIllgrave interaction finished? The sober Malcom character was extremely cringeworthy and pointless.
I also agree with the others stating how you must divorce this show from other Marvel shows and movies (probably except daredevil).
Enjoyed the show overall, but I thought this was funny too - one minute he's a raging addict then the next he's completely back to normal!
Hey man, he got real frustrated at that toilet.
Finally finished it. The final few episodes luckily got good again. But boy was everything between episode 4 and 12 unnecessary at best. From moment to moment the show can get really tense, but overarching wise it felt like they really had no clue what they were doing. So I remain conflicted, but it ended well enough that I'm interested in the next one.
Characters I really liked:
Kilgrave, Trish
Characters that were okay:
Jessica, Luke, Albert, Clemens
Characters I hated:
Pretty much everyone else.
Although I like Ritter in general, I don't think she was the best choice for a hardboiled character. Instead of world weary she sounded more whiney, and the boozing felt too cartoony, or if she never actually gets drunk, what's the point. Could also be that the director simply didn't commit enough. Daredevil's photography was actually much more Noir than Jessica Jones.
Characters I really liked:
Kilgrave, Trish
Characters that were okay:
Jessica, Luke, Albert, Clemens
Characters I hated:
Pretty much everyone else.
Although I like Ritter in general, I don't think she was the best choice for a hardboiled character. Instead of world weary she sounded more whiney, and the boozing felt too cartoony, or if she never actually gets drunk, what's the point. Could also be that the director simply didn't commit enough. Daredevil's photography was actually much more Noir than Jessica Jones.
though in terms of photography I am appreciative that the cameraman seemed as infatuated with Jessica's ass as I was
SJRB
Gold Member
What's the deal with Simpson anyway? That whole story arch went nowhere.
Cheers for the unmarked spoiler. Ffs
I reckon he'll be back. (spoiler link)
Discotheque
Banned
Apologies I thought we were allowed to talk openly about the show now
Also God damn I hope they just drop Simpson entirely If they do another season. Worst character of the year
SJRB
Gold Member
Huh, how weird.
Especially in the later episodes the time jumps were kinda jarring to the point that I was often not quite sure if a day passed or maybe a week? The show is pretty inconsequential in that regard.
I quite like how it's a very personal story rather than another crazy guy wants to take over the world ones. David Tennant works well but it takes some getting used to after seeing him as the doctor all those years
Don't know why that would make sense if there is a separate spoiler thread.
The Outsider
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Cheers for not reading the OP. Unmarked spoilers are fair game now.
I was under the impression that at most maybe two or three weeks passed.
After finishing Jessica Jones, it immediately rose to the top of my favourite Marvel things, TBH. I don't think I'd put it next to the GOATs like Iron Man, but it's really close.
Completely blows Daredevil out of the water in terms of characters, character development, action, more interesting and interestingly weaved storylines, the main and side cast, pretty much every single respect. The only leg up I'd give Daredevil is the very final scene of each, but I liked how Jessica Jones ended too.
Marvel on Netflix is killing it.
Completely blows Daredevil out of the water in terms of characters, character development, action, more interesting and interestingly weaved storylines, the main and side cast, pretty much every single respect. The only leg up I'd give Daredevil is the very final scene of each, but I liked how Jessica Jones ended too.
Marvel on Netflix is killing it.
It just seems that way too much stuff happened within a few weeks for it to be realistic or even plausible.
A few months would allow enough time for the whole trish relationship to take place, Luke and Jessica to become acquainted and even for Jessica to find out where Kilgrave is at the start of the season. It would give time for some of the characters to heal, and for the justice system to indict Hope too.
The spoiler thread exists for two weeks after the premier of a Netflix season so that people can openly discuss what happens, but it doesn't automatically get closed when unmarked spoilers become allowed in the main thread. JJ spoilers are open season starting from Dec 1 according to the OP.
I mean, a mod should adjust the title so that it's clear right off the bat, but at the same time, it's been almost a month since the show debuted.
Dude, what.
I mean, I loved JJ, but... what?
Unmarked spoilers are absolutely allowed, don't let people not reading OPs stop you.
I went through the various scenes in my head and I admit that it's definitely more than two weeks, even at the most optimistic estimates. On the other hand, I still don't think many months pass, but it's really hard to estimate. The more I think about it though, the bigger the estimated time span becomes.
Finally finished JJ earlier. And yeah, liked it a lot more than Daredevil - loved the noir feel, loved the more psychological bent, loved the themes of sexuality and guilt and all that. Daredevil had higher highs, but as a total package, Jessica Jones takes it.
Kilgrave was just magnificent, Tennant really knocked it out of the park. My favorite MCU villain by a mile, and quite possibly my favorite MCU character, period. He's just such a goddamn shit-eater, completely flippant about everything that he does, aware of all of the suffering and cruelty he causes but unwilling to take an ounce of responsibility for it. I mean, I believe 100% that that character would exist - a person with ultimate power who uses it purely to indulge himself.
The Jessica-Luke relationship was great, really liked Trish, and Malcolm, and - weirdly enough - Robyn, who is probably the most human character in the show. She's an absolute bitch, and she never really improves. I really love the scene where she's telling Malcolm that everyone is awful, and he says something like "If I really believed that, I would kill myself." And she pauses for a second, is sort of taken aback, then tells him to go find a noose and stomps away. Like, she doesn't want to say it, she regrets saying it, but she says it anyways because she's too stubborn and proud for her own good. I dunno, I found her really relatable in a way - like, just because you have trauma and you care about someone doesn't mean you stop being shitty.
Kilgrave was just magnificent, Tennant really knocked it out of the park. My favorite MCU villain by a mile, and quite possibly my favorite MCU character, period. He's just such a goddamn shit-eater, completely flippant about everything that he does, aware of all of the suffering and cruelty he causes but unwilling to take an ounce of responsibility for it. I mean, I believe 100% that that character would exist - a person with ultimate power who uses it purely to indulge himself.
The Jessica-Luke relationship was great, really liked Trish, and Malcolm, and - weirdly enough - Robyn, who is probably the most human character in the show. She's an absolute bitch, and she never really improves. I really love the scene where she's telling Malcolm that everyone is awful, and he says something like "If I really believed that, I would kill myself." And she pauses for a second, is sort of taken aback, then tells him to go find a noose and stomps away. Like, she doesn't want to say it, she regrets saying it, but she says it anyways because she's too stubborn and proud for her own good. I dunno, I found her really relatable in a way - like, just because you have trauma and you care about someone doesn't mean you stop being shitty.
I really liked this show even if the last third felt a bit messy. Felt like it was just spinning its wheels and introducing new subplots very late into the season
Killing Kilgrave just like that is pretty brutal. Jessica had been avoiding trying to do that the entire series but it only resulted in a whole ton of bodies. Even though everyone looks at Jessica as a hero now this season ends on a real downer because she crossed a line she never wanted to and doesn't view herself as a hero. Some might say that Jessica was just being dumb the whole time and should have killed him from the start but killing someone in cold blood wasn't the type of person she was so I can understand why she didn't.
It's also very sad we won't have the amazing David Tennant for another season unless it's in flashbacks. He played Kilgrave perfectly.
This Netflix Marvel Universe continues to be great. Really happy with the more mature direction they're taking it.
Killing Kilgrave just like that is pretty brutal. Jessica had been avoiding trying to do that the entire series but it only resulted in a whole ton of bodies. Even though everyone looks at Jessica as a hero now this season ends on a real downer because she crossed a line she never wanted to and doesn't view herself as a hero. Some might say that Jessica was just being dumb the whole time and should have killed him from the start but killing someone in cold blood wasn't the type of person she was so I can understand why she didn't.
It's also very sad we won't have the amazing David Tennant for another season unless it's in flashbacks. He played Kilgrave perfectly.
This Netflix Marvel Universe continues to be great. Really happy with the more mature direction they're taking it.
The more I think about the show, the less I like it. With the exception of Tennant and the girl who played Trish I thought the acting and performances were quite weak.
The action (fight) scenes were embarrassing. Especially the one between Jessica and Luke. Looked like something from a show out of the '90s.
I was also looking forward to seeing Jessica finally using her superpowers, but when it finally happened I was extremely disappointed by the shittastic special effects. What a waste.
Tennant is by far the best MCU villain and it is a huge mistake that they killed him off. This guy could have become so much more in the MCU. Really a wasted opportunity.
The action (fight) scenes were embarrassing. Especially the one between Jessica and Luke. Looked like something from a show out of the '90s.
I was also looking forward to seeing Jessica finally using her superpowers, but when it finally happened I was extremely disappointed by the shittastic special effects. What a waste.
Tennant is by far the best MCU villain and it is a huge mistake that they killed him off. This guy could have become so much more in the MCU. Really a wasted opportunity.
Watch Daredevil again, there is NO WAY JJ is better in action. This is beyond absurd. I agree with the rest though, I enjoyed it much more than Daredevil. The ending was kind of a bummer, it felt a little bit rushed.
Nollemaster
Member
I was absolutely done with Marvel and its superheroes after I saw the second Captain America movie. I decided to give Jessica Jones a go anyway because I liked Krysten Ritter in Breaking Bad. But wow I liked this show a lot! It had some cringe moments for me like scenes where they talk about superpowers or what being a superhero is all about but I can look past that because the rest was so good. Not to mention David Tennant as Kilgrave was the coolest villain I've seen in a while.
Now my friends are recommending me Daredevil but I don't know if I would like that at all.
Now my friends are recommending me Daredevil but I don't know if I would like that at all.
Daredevil has the best action scenes ever done in a superhero series AND movie. It's more ''comic-like'' than JJ and Kingpin is a love or hate character.
Funky Papa
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Cap2 shits on DD from a tall building.
Daredevil is worth your time, not that super-heroey and features a great villain in Kingpin.
Hu, I'm on the complete opposite then. I like Jessica Jones a lot, but I think Daredevil was on a different level.
Completely depends on what kind of action you like. Cap 2 has some great "big" action scenes with explosions, car chases etc. I liked it a lot. But DD has those greatly choreographed hand-to-hand fighting scenes you rarely see anymore in western releases.
Captain America 2 gets all its great action out of the way by the halfway point but it does have some real good stuff. I still don't think anything in there matches up with the simple brutality of the corridor fight in episode 2 of Daredevil.
Ultimately, I think Daredevil is just much better paced than Jessica Jones.
Ultimately, I think Daredevil is just much better paced than Jessica Jones.
Nollemaster
Member
Hmm I think I will give Daredevil a go then. I remember my cousin praising it for its fight scenes just like you guys are doing. I'll report back here lol
Finished JJ last night. I agree with those who say it's one of the best MCU events since Iron Man.
There were some pacing problems (Episode 11ish after Kilgrave escapes the lab) and some of the characters were either annoying or forgettable (Simpson felt really forced).
Loved all the weird, challenging, brutal stuff that happened though. Didn't think you'd hear the word "rape" thrown around so often in a Marvel property. That, plus heavy drug abuse (alcohol shown being drunk, using Heroin by its name rather than just "drugs"), child exploitation, freakin' incest... show was gruesome with its kills too (Wendy's bludgeoning elicited a yelp from me).
And Kilgrave is probably one of the most believable villains in a while. I'd imagine 90% of the assholes out there would just use their powers for short-term personal gain rather than try for world domination or realizing some grand vision. Tennant played him like a guy you couldn't wait to see killed.
Definitely better than Daredevil in all categories except action. Still don't really understand Kingpin's motivations in S1.
There were some pacing problems (Episode 11ish after Kilgrave escapes the lab) and some of the characters were either annoying or forgettable (Simpson felt really forced).
Loved all the weird, challenging, brutal stuff that happened though. Didn't think you'd hear the word "rape" thrown around so often in a Marvel property. That, plus heavy drug abuse (alcohol shown being drunk, using Heroin by its name rather than just "drugs"), child exploitation, freakin' incest... show was gruesome with its kills too (Wendy's bludgeoning elicited a yelp from me).
And Kilgrave is probably one of the most believable villains in a while. I'd imagine 90% of the assholes out there would just use their powers for short-term personal gain rather than try for world domination or realizing some grand vision. Tennant played him like a guy you couldn't wait to see killed.
Definitely better than Daredevil in all categories except action. Still don't really understand Kingpin's motivations in S1.
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