Spider from Mars
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did everyone get the Doom one sheet and the battle map?
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Marvels Secret Wars by Hickman & Ribic |OT| Everything ends... Everything begins
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Pilgrimzero
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FF is Future Foundation?
Manmademan
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i feel like I'm the only guy reading Uncanny X-men sometimes.
Palette Swap
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I am too but I had totally forgotten about that.
I'm sorry, man. All of us were like holy shit and we felt a wide range of emotions.
Well #1 was so much fun and a what a way to start reading physical comics. First time buying a comic on launch day. Also I feel my wallet crying already. Comics are going to be an expensive hobby. Espcially when there's trades and collections I want physical copies of even if they're on Marvel unlimited.
Manmademan
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ok, I had a minute to re-read secret wars when I wasn't rushed.
The manifold thing makes sense now.
The manifold thing makes sense now.
new avengers 30 has hank pym revealing that the ACTUAL higher end abilities of the manifolds spread across the multiverse is that they are able to subconsciously move things based on Need, without knowing precisely what those things were, or the destination.
"plan B" when the shuttle blew was using this ability to grab the exact people they would NEED to survive in the aftermath of multiversal collapse. They don't know WHY spider man, cyclops, star lord, and Thor are necessary, only that they are.
"plan B" when the shuttle blew was using this ability to grab the exact people they would NEED to survive in the aftermath of multiversal collapse. They don't know WHY spider man, cyclops, star lord, and Thor are necessary, only that they are.
That's alright.
I soon remembered I have so much to look forward to.
Dat additional context.
Palette Swap
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To expand on that
Manifold is plugged to a machine that apparently expands his powers. Back in New Avengers 13, Swan described a machine powered on need, it was Reed's bridge. The amplifier used in this issue looks like the gateway part of a bridge (minus the dimension on the other side). I assume this machine is derived from a bridge design. It's mentioned several times though that a Manifold can only work in their native universe.
Another thing of note is that Manifold stayed behind, looking to achieve something we haven't yet seen come to fruition.
I'll go on a limb and suggest that using a bridge-like contraption, 616 Manifold could manage to get other people out of the dying 616 universe to wherever Battleworld is. IIRC, a Reed, or Doom, managed to cheat and use an Infinity Gauntlet through a bridge when the Gauntlet is only meant to be used in its native universe.
Another thing of note is that Manifold stayed behind, looking to achieve something we haven't yet seen come to fruition.
I'll go on a limb and suggest that using a bridge-like contraption, 616 Manifold could manage to get other people out of the dying 616 universe to wherever Battleworld is. IIRC, a Reed, or Doom, managed to cheat and use an Infinity Gauntlet through a bridge when the Gauntlet is only meant to be used in its native universe.
Who is the woman between Carol (?) and Miles? Is that 1610 Jean Grey?
Manmademan
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I like this explanation.
Rastafarian42
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That's how you start off a event my gawd so many excellent moments in this issue can't wait for the second issue.
Manmademan
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well, they make MORE sense now that
we know that Phoenix-Cyclops can keep everyone on the left from being wiped out immediately by Thanos
No kidding.
Aside from all the gut punches, the Punisher scene was amazing. Even people who hate the guy probably laughed.
shadyspace
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Is it next Wednesday yet
Yeah, this wait is killing me. All I can do is reread SW #1 and A/NA again and again.
Everything about it was amazing.
Fisks casual e-mail to his co-villains was pretty cool; "well guys, we're gonna die anyway so let's get drunk together. Your big broseph, Wilson."
Punisher's smirk is priceless.
Punisher's smirk is priceless.
Also, T'Challa talking with Reed
"You know Reed we really are the last of us"
If you're a
Cyclops/Phoenix hybrid, who else you either consciously or unconsciously save from the end of the world given the chance?
Palette Swap
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I'm going to spend a week trying to connect imaginary dots. I'm fairly certain it's a sign of madness but eh.
I feel there are still some clues left in Ultimates, FF and Avengers. Hell, maybe even in AvX.
Oh shit.
I figured she had to play some role as she's in the list of characters at the beginning and there's only one shot of her in the book.
Your explanation makes sense.
Your explanation makes sense.
shadyspace
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I kinda hope Cyclops
doesn't have some master plan re: the Phoenix Egg but he just thought, "Fuck, I'm going to need every advantage I can get."
Coriolanus
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Manmademan
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616 jean grey? she is still around after all
shadyspace
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yes, I know, I know. I just like the idea of a hail mary plan of "well, time to git gud."
That's what I'm saying.
Question from someone whos been woefully out of touch, Marvel wise:
At the end of Spider-Verse, it was revealed that the Earth that the Captain Britain Spider-Man is from was gone. I assumed it had something to do with what happened to the Master Weaver and the Web of Life at the time, but was his world actually a causality of an Incursion?
At the end of Spider-Verse, it was revealed that the Earth that the Captain Britain Spider-Man is from was gone. I assumed it had something to do with what happened to the Master Weaver and the Web of Life at the time, but was his world actually a causality of an Incursion?
BenjaminBirdie
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YES. My rave fave cyke moment.
Manmademan
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in the New Avengers thread Cyclops was looking like the ultimate clueless asshole though.
NA30 saw the entire cosmic pantheon including a limitless number of celestials casually wiped out by beyonders in the blink of an eye, and the multiverse marching inevitably to a slow death no matter what ANYONE did because of it.
And here comes cyclops like "chill out everybody, I got this PHOENIX EGG!"
Manmademan
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I thought the speculation was that it was 1610 Jean Grey on the cover, not 616.
BenjaminBirdie
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I'm really excited about only the ones coming out between now and when Secret Wars is over.
I must have missed that part. The one on the cover looks more like O5 Jean than what I remember 1610 looks like...
and besides
why would 616 PhoenixCyke save 1610 Jean Grey?
Callibretto
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I haven't read ultimate comics fot a while, but what happened to the ultimate universe xmen, ultimates (cap, thor, hulk) and the rest of ultimate FF other than evil Reed?
They're so hilariously outmatched in superpowered people in this fight.
They're so hilariously outmatched in superpowered people in this fight.
bengraven
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Seriously expecting to see our Jean at least one more time. This is the perfect opportunity for her to show up. Don't think they'll have her spend the last 10+ years of the universe just sitting in the white room with black curtains...and then it's over and Ultimate Jean Grey or young JG take over.
I meant if they remembered events before SW like the death of Gwen Stacy or Civil War or the Dark Phoenix Saga, etc.
See above.
I meant if they remembered events before SW like the death of Gwen Stacy or Civil War or the Dark Phoenix Saga, etc.
See above.
Something I don't quite get from my vague perusal of these threads: back when the Incursions were still happening, if you destroy the other universe's earth, does the rest of the other universe survive? I mean, based on this:
it sounds like the universe survives? Or at least is believed to? But then we'll still have a multiverse after the dust is settled, just a multiverse with only one earth.
'Course that also means that evacuating and scuttling earth would've saved everyone a lot of trouble. But of course the earthlings are too stubborn (and technologically primitive), while the aliens are too snobbish to bother evacuating before trying to blow it up.
it sounds like the universe survives? Or at least is believed to? But then we'll still have a multiverse after the dust is settled, just a multiverse with only one earth.
'Course that also means that evacuating and scuttling earth would've saved everyone a lot of trouble. But of course the earthlings are too stubborn (and technologically primitive), while the aliens are too snobbish to bother evacuating before trying to blow it up.
styl3s
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As it stands i think there are like 30-32 different titles i will be picking up.
Manmademan
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ultimate universe x-men just crossed over with the all-new X-men and miles morales a couple of issues ago. they're around, they just weren't invited to the cross dimensional invasion. Incursion was only an hour, so their absence isn't conspicuous.
everyone else? who knows
It's false hope. Even if you survive the final Incursion your universe will still die due to the Beyonders' actions.
It was an incursion from what I understood, yeah. I remember Brit Spider-Man went to the corps and was like "Someone's killing Spider-Men." And they were like "We have more important things to focus on" i.e. The Incursions. And then at the end when he finds out that his world is gone, he mentions the incursions in some way, I think.
I really hated Spider-Verse.
PhoncipleBone
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Korvac Saga 2.0 for me.
I enjoyed it.I can spot a jokepost from a mile away.
... you're joking right?
Right?
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