Nekketsu Kõha
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Wait are people saying 2017 is over? A year when they release a new console. This could end up being their best year still.
Xbox One is great for racing games indeed.
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Microsoft needs more exclusives throughout the year
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Wait are people saying 2017 is over? A year when they release a new console. This could end up being their best year still.
Xbox One is great for racing games indeed.
SmokedMeat
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Nekketsu Kõha;245819970 said:
What exclusives? You can count them on one hand, with Splatoon 2 being the only one worth buying. Everything else is old indie/Neo Geo games or ports.
And you downplay Sony's exclusives like HZD and Yakuza? You spew nothing but fanboy drivel.
SkyMasterson
Member
Nekketsu Kõha;245820096 said:
I'm pumped for Cuphead but outside of that it's just Crackdown 3 which will more than likely be average and Forza 7 which I'm also pumped for (should be an amazing game) but Forza has been milked this gen; I'm not sure why people automatically group Forza in with Halo and Gears. Forza has had FAR more entries this gen. Halo and Gears have been pretty normal this gen.
Nekketsu Kõha;245820096 said:
Forza Horizon is a bigger seller than Forza Motorsport...........horizon 3 had 2.5 million sold as of feb this year. While FM6 just sold over 1mil at the end of January at its respectable launch.
Motorpsort doesn't have the sales of Gran Turismo......and the shift to open world games has brought something like Horizon 3 (the best racer this generation) above it in sales.
I think people overplay the sales of Forza........
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Not sure why you sound like (if) Moon and Playground working with Sony with a game in future, it means MS "lose" them, they can always back to work with MS, or just work with both MS and Sony at the same time if they have enough resources.
Acquiescence
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Nekketsu Kõha;245819702 said:
The PS4 has a fuckton more well-reviewed exclusives come out this year than the Switch, so this is a confusing post.
therealbigrich
Member
I feel like I have a unpopular opinion and would love if there was more games of course. Thing is I don't see MS wanting to risk losing money and if that's not what they want then so be it. I wouldn't cry over it cause I would just sell my xbox and get a PS4/PC and be done with it.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Yeah just gonna ignore you now. Shitposting is shitposting. Enjoy your 10 different 3rd person perspective action adventures.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
I think many people already pointed out the reason of Xbox still doing fine, you can check back other replies.
You, me, Neogaf is not "mainstream" customers.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Nekketsu Kõha;245820320 said:
You mean the games people beg to come to Switch?
Enjoy waiting for yesteryear's games to finally arrive on your system.
Uno Venova
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Nekketsu Kõha;245820462 said:
Nekketsu Kõha;245820320 said:
Nekketsu Kõha;245820320 said:
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Deleted member 325805
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It's why I went PS4 as my exclusive box, Microsoft just have nothing I want to play, especially now that most of their games come to PC.
Mufausa The 3rd
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But they got PUBG
for a few months...
Acquiescence
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Nekketsu Kõha;245820462 said:
1. That game didn't come out this year.
2. Two randoms on the internet not liking the game doesn't detract from the fact that Uncharted 4 is one of the most critically-acclaimed titles of the gen.
Nekketsu Kõha
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https://youtu.be/-sM9JUYKswg
How about this then?
Seriously. Most of their games are cinematic horrible messes you finish in a day.
I know I know shouldn't be so blunt and people will perceive at console wars or whatever but I genuinly don't get the praise those games get. It shouldn't be controversial to say.
Goalus
Member
Yes, I agree, especially with the bolded part.
They have just invested a significant amount of money and manpower to develop and produce brandnew hardware, which is a clear sign that they are planning to exit this business in the near future.
That's why I am pretty convinced that Sony won't stay in the console business for very long, either:
They have recently developed new hardware (PS4P and PSVR) and there are rumors that a PS5 is already in the works. The only sensible conclusion would be that Sony have lost interest in the console business and will retire by the end of next year.
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
No you have to go with PC if your that into racers
Ditto but they had the major advantage of being the first next gen console on the market. Very strong sales in NA. Couple that with lower development costs and some big time PC developers moving primarily to consoles and there you have the strong early 360 lineup. Also, many of those exclusives overtime found their way on PS3.
MS was unlucky with their JRPG/Japanese investments not working out for them. It send the wrong message to management as well as Japanese developers. One could argue that the relatively poor sales of their third party exclusives this are also giving management cold feet. You can only get burned so many times before you decide to focus on your main IPs. Having said all that, they desperately need a big hit this gen.
Shadowhaxor
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Nekketsu Kõha;245820462 said:
Nekketsu Kõha;245820666 said:
Nobody is going to give a fuck about your opinions if all you're going to do is link to random video's as if that is a solid argument.
Your opinions are not controversial if you're not going to bother explaining them. They simply come off as petulant and not worth responding to. Can you try a little harder to offer something worth discussing?
Nekketsu Kõha
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It isn't bias.
Here
https://youtu.be/vG0zJ89Fv8c
More 3rd person perspective action adventure games by Sony.
All you are arguing is exclusives then it should be fair to talk about them. I mean there are tons of games that are exclusive, just being exclusive doesn't make something great or even a selling point.
If I am wrong then how come MS is still selling millions of systems. People also bring up MS games that also exist on PC saying that isn't an exclusive then as if PS4 doesn't have the same deal with games likes SFV.
Whatever I'm sure MS will do fine this year with and without exclusives in their lineup and with a new system they should be making a lot of money too.
NintendosBooger
Member
Pretty sure most of this "begging" stems from a desire to play those games off-home and not from any inability on their part to purchase another $300 electronic toy.
Mass_Pincup
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Nekketsu Kõha;245820984 said:
What do you think you're proving here? That you can find 3rd person action adventure games by Sony?
Congrats I guess lol
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
It is a solid argument as it presents my opinion and experience with pretty much all of their games. They actually do a great job showing games and talking about them. They are from Redlettermedia if you never heard of them and they twitch stream as well.
It's just not being able to critically evaluate games separating individual taste.
rakkadakka
Member
MS needs more games that were started several years ago to satisfy OP.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
That arguing exclusives is pointless if all you do is count nr of titles. Someone saying Nintendo has worse exclusives because PlayStation 4 has more right now lol
Microsoft maybe doesn't have as many but they are diverse and not everyone wants the same 3rd person perspective action game all the time.
We already have the assassins creeds watchdogs GTA shadow of mordor batman and what else.
So saying a PC is far better and Nintendo for exclusives you can't get or experience on anything else isn't exactly crazy talk. Me saying it doesn't invalidate your fun.
Saying MS failed and should exit the gaming industry because of Sony Exlusives is hysterical however.
I originally chose PS4 over Xbox because it was the more popular console and PS seemed like a stronger brand, this was before I even knew about exclusives. I can say that it really felt like being on PS helped me appreciate all different types of games from third person, rhythm, indie, side scroller, platformer, action games and jrpgs over the course of just half a generation and I don't think that would've happened to me if I was on Xbox. Now that I am knowledgeable about exclusives, the gap between Xbox and PS4 to me right now is so huge that I kinda feel a bit lucky for choosing PS.
Anyway I need to make a comment though about something I don't know why but I'm seeing lots of comments from everywhere saying ''third person' games action/adventure games or whatever you want to call them perhaps don't count as games or are not fun anymore and and I'm sorry but that sounds like such a big cop out and sounds very ridiculous to me. No idea why this seems to be a new trend or something, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong here.
Anyway I need to make a comment though about something I don't know why but I'm seeing lots of comments from everywhere saying ''third person' games action/adventure games or whatever you want to call them perhaps don't count as games or are not fun anymore and and I'm sorry but that sounds like such a big cop out and sounds very ridiculous to me. No idea why this seems to be a new trend or something, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong here.
Mass_Pincup
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Nekketsu Kõha;245821322 said:
Nintendo most certainly do, I mean following your logic we don't need Zelda BOTW right? It's a 3rd person action adventure game after all. Splatoon as well since its a 3rd person shooter.
Sony also have way more diverse games then Microsoft. From genre to business model to art style to length etc... They're not even comparable.
I think some people just don't like it when their preferred style of game isn't in the current trend.
I think anyone looking around and not seeing the massive variety and quality of games right now are a little crazy.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Of course they count as games it is just a lot of us are sick and tired of what we perceive as lazy gameplay design and games that all play the same way. Same camera perspective, same movements, same shooting and fighting etc. Many of them are essentially same for every beat in structure game progression and even same mechanics for all elements in their respective worlds. They are also short, easy and focus more on the cinematics of it.
If that is something you love then enjoy it, literally your golden age of gaming with all those titles and the 3rd party ones too.
I do as does most I'm sure, on PC and or Nintendo Switch.
Rellik
Member
It's also no longer an exclusive.
Even more important is that they need to up the quality of what they ARE putting out. They haven't had a single 90+ game this gen on metacritic, except for Forza Horizon 3 which was indeed fantastic. I'm a Halo fan, and I enjoy Gears, but they've both gotten so stale to me that I only enjoy them as much as your typical yearly release shooter. They no longer feel special in any way, for me. Ori has been great! ID@Xbox holds the only upcoming exclusives I'm truly looking forward to on the system... but other than that, things are looking pretty dire for me personally. They need to turn that around and put out really high quality games that people want to play. This is doubly important if they want to go the route of service games, as that's a really crowded market right now. It'll be hard to stand out, so everything they put out will need to be REALLY great.
Bits N Pieces
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I think you should sell it before it loses all value when the 1X comes out, thats a ridiculous amount of time to have any bit of tech go unused.
Well, the browser is better on the xbox one than the ps4, and it's quieter when playing blurays/dvds
its console exclusive......which with all the lists around comparing to PS4, it would still be counted.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
It's not much but he is getting some of the multi platform releases:
Monster Hunter World
Dynasty Warriors 9
Ace Combat 7
Etc.
It's still terrible but at least he got some major Japanese games on the system.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
No I'm not missing anything because I have a PC and Nintendo Switch, Also mobile gaming.
I do think people are missing out on great games not having either but Xbox isn't exactly lacking games to play neither is PlayStation. They both have plenty of 3rd person perspective action adventure titles, in abundance in fact.
They also have games in most genres. If a person however feel it is lacking then they should look at PC and Nintendo.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Well, Besides Cuphead, Forza Motorsports 7, Halo Wars 2, and Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves, as well as some indies(I think), allegedly there are more exclusives in the works so far off that MS folk don't want to discuss them yet, but did want us to know they are working on things.
Shil Pencer
Member
Next years e3 when Microsoft has a bunch of exclusives that nobody saw coming and will actually launch next year it's going to be hilarious seeing all of the "where did these games come from??" posts. I give Phil Spencer credit because Iam sure he knew he was going to get roasted for the lack of new exclusives shown at e3, but wanted to stand his ground on not showing games off till they are ready. That's my belief and if they don't absolutely stun the crowd at e3 next year they are toast