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Microsoft needs more exclusives throughout the year
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CerebralTiger
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That's not an announcement. Similarly, there isn't one for Persona 5. And Zero Dawn isn't DLC.
Luckydog
Member
Even "IF" someone agreed with this, they should be on the back end of development of new IP to release as next year would be year 4. They have nothing to show, and have shown nothing.
I wish they would. As someone who love Halo and Forza, I would love to see more. Exclusives do not bother me much as I stupidly buy all systems, but I prefer the Xbox controller and console gaming in general and it would be nice to see them output some more. They just arent.
64bitbros
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That is not an announcement, that is a rumor. Nothing official.
Luckydog
Member
software sells hardware
are you sure?
Yes, I'm sure....it released and was playable.
Colbert
Banned
And it was actually not a bad game. And it was better than PGA Tour xx (with Rory on the cover)!
"was playable" great achievement I guess.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Persona 5 doesn't need an announcement, it's already available on multiple platforms. And yes, Zero Dawn Frozen Wilds is DLC.
Pretty sure you would hard pressed to find anyone else that thinks new AAA IP's from the ground up should be released in 3 years time. I sure as hell don't want it, as that sounds like it would be a buggy mess.
64bitbros
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Heh if you mean the other platform being Ps3, its still a win for Sony.
Who will make this AAA baseball game for MS?
They seem very averse to making studios from the ground up.
Honestly wouldn't shock me if they just coasted on 3rd party games to carry them through E3 and market the shiny 4k aspect of everything on stage.
If MS had a Cyberpunk 2077 world reveal they'd be happy enough to grab that and call it a day along with Halo 6 and Forza Horizon 4.
No one is saying that. Of course people buy consoles for the big AAA hyped up 1st and 3rd party games.
But games like Yakuza, etc. Keep the PS4 full of content. I mean look at Crash. I would not be shocked if there were some people out there that bought a PS4 simply to play that game.
Not saying differently. Just like games on Windows are a win for MS. Fact remains, it is still multiplatform.
Papo Swing
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My Xbox has been off all year I think. Other than maybe watching a Blu ray there has been no game that makes me turn on the consoles.
On the other hand, PS4 has been great Horizon and Persona was great as well as Nioh and Crash and others.
Switch has also been on point for release in its first year. Zelda, Arms, Splatoon.
Xbox offerings are not even that great and what remains for the year: Cuphead and Crackdown look great and Forza will be a looker for the XOX, but what else is there.
It feels like the best efforts they are putting out are not even close to being really great.
Sea of Thieves, unless for some miracle, seems to be a bust. Great idea, but one that may not succeed in actual execution.
I really want the XOX. It looks like a beast and I will at least switch the multiplat gaming to it, but MS needs a stronger presence in gaming.
On the other hand, PS4 has been great Horizon and Persona was great as well as Nioh and Crash and others.
Switch has also been on point for release in its first year. Zelda, Arms, Splatoon.
Xbox offerings are not even that great and what remains for the year: Cuphead and Crackdown look great and Forza will be a looker for the XOX, but what else is there.
It feels like the best efforts they are putting out are not even close to being really great.
Sea of Thieves, unless for some miracle, seems to be a bust. Great idea, but one that may not succeed in actual execution.
I really want the XOX. It looks like a beast and I will at least switch the multiplat gaming to it, but MS needs a stronger presence in gaming.
Stormblessed
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The release droughts are a problem for enthusiasts, but I'm not sure Microsoft is too concerned as long as the broader market manages to keep the console afloat with their two to three purchases a year.
Same here. For this year, I'm personally settled with the Xbox One X, a couple MS exclusives + a couple big 3rd party titles.
That should not be an excuse, though. When it comes to 1st party support, it looks kinda disappointing. Like others have said, I think that it is a mistake to have studios just to make Halo, just to make Gears and just to make Forza. As much as I hate these "Halo, Gears, Forza" shitposts, it's still kinda true when it comes to 1st party AAA games. They have the manpower and the creativity to come up with something new and they should do it. Not saying that they don't have anything on the horizon, who knows, but they should show people that they have something.
Such a shame that Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive were both not a bigger success. For me, they are both good games and sequelsl could further improve those games. But somehow, I think that MS' philosophy is "one and done" here.
I'm curious as to what the 2018 line-up will look like, other than the usual suspects. It's part of the fun waiting for new games, even if waiting feels like forever after each E3.
RichiRamjag
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I kind of agree. I don't play as much as I'd like to justify three systems, so I packed up my PS4 pro and put it on Craigslist (hasn't sold yet) I figured I'd keep my Xbox one as my son owns one already.
That said, I kind of realized that I'm going to be missing out on more than a few exclusives because of it. I'm on twitter and one of the mods here was going on about yakuza and I realized I've yet to play that and can't if I sell. Same with shenmue, ni no kuni, and spider-man. The list gets bigger daily and it kind of sucks. The original Xbox had such varied experiences, introduced me to morrowind on console, gave me shenmue, etc.
That said, I kind of realized that I'm going to be missing out on more than a few exclusives because of it. I'm on twitter and one of the mods here was going on about yakuza and I realized I've yet to play that and can't if I sell. Same with shenmue, ni no kuni, and spider-man. The list gets bigger daily and it kind of sucks. The original Xbox had such varied experiences, introduced me to morrowind on console, gave me shenmue, etc.
Nekketsu Kõha
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Savinowned
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Give em a break, they just spent all their money getting Spotify on their console this week.
(seriously tho I'm so happy we have Spotify on Xbox now)
(seriously tho I'm so happy we have Spotify on Xbox now)
Isn't most of that list on PC?
Sadly, besides some DLC for existing games and a GT Prologue, the PS4 line up this fall is pretty bleak compared to the Xbox line up. One game only is planned to hit my PS Pro now through December (GT Sport), and I have 5 exclusives and 5 mp games as well as an X1X in my Xbox line up now through December.
Spring on my PS Pro was good, getting Nier and HZD and finishing up The Last Guardian. But now it will be pretty much dormant.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I'm not saying I'm treating it that way, but I do feel like MS held back because of hardware and now having the system to really showcase the stuff they've been wanting to for a while. It might be a delusional thought but out of everyone, they have the most to prove with this revamp. So what better way to this with a new system. Of course these same games will work on the OG Xbox but I have this feeling that they held back a lot because they needed the power.
Yup, most of those PS and Xbox games are on Windows PC.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
The original Xbox was amazing with its library even in its first months until the very end.
PC will give you most of those titles however and countless more with the best BC there is. If you have yet to do so you should at least look into a gaming PC. They work extremely well and easy just as simply as a console these days when playing on a TV. Not that expensive these days either.
Some of them are on PS4 too lol. The PC/PS4/Switch combo means you miss out on nothing this gen now.
Luckydog
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You asked if it could really be played then. It could, and was fun.
Birgitte2004
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Nekketsu Kõha;245823282 said:
I simply adore the fact that you throw PC and mobile into the mix just to hide how limited the Switch's library really is at this point in its lifecycle.
Because in the Switch vs. PS4 exclusive games "contest", the Switch is obliterated right now, even if you choose to throw out all 3rd person adventure games.
If you throw PC + Mobile into the mix, you can say this about any platform.
"better than what I play on a PC, Virtual Boy, or Mobile" is just as true as your version.
Then why try and frame as if there's this surge of playable stuff on XB but not PS4?
64bitbros
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You are trying too hard.
I don't think this at all. Simply because they are in no position to hold anything back. We know what their first party output will generally look like.
The One X is and Xbox One. Just a bit more powerful. That's it. Games will look better but not a next gen leap.
Like someone said. MS I think is content with turning Xbox into a service. The hardware int he US isn't moving as much as the competition, but Live transactions and stuff are up. So that's good.
I just don't think you'll see a big investment in new IP from them. Maybe smaller titles but when they cancelled Scalebound that told me everything.
Shil Pencer
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It seems obvious to me that next years E3 is going to be huge for Xbox first party but I get it. Guess we will find out next year if Xbox really is in trouble.
Castef
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software sells hardware
are you sure?
Side note: that's a very fun and well-done golf game.
Just try it, especially now that its f2p component is gone.
I think it wasn't, because your opinion is subjective, and MC score is not.
Also, it's like saying that I should skip Super Mario Odyssey because Knack was released 4 years ago
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
I'm first a PC gamer, played PC games since the 386. The Nintendo Switch is literally the only thing besides mobile gaming that offers me something great and truly exclusive.
The only one running a contest here is you lol I couldn't care less about your "war"
Nekketsu Kõha;245823454 said:
If you're big on Japanese titles, you'd want a PS4 because it has some of the best japanese RPG's this generation. Bloodborne, Persona 5, Ni No Kuni 2, Atelier series, DQ 11 and so much more. You are really not making a lot of sense, out side of the bias part that is.
The PC/XB/Switch combo means you miss out on nothing this gen.
Nekketsu Kõha
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If he has an Xbox why would he buy the same game on PlayStation especially when talking about the Xbox One X that will be more powerful.
Primethius
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Papo Swing
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That's not really true though.
PS4 still has:
- Knack 2
- Destiny 2( has exclusive content)
- Uncharted: the Lost Legacy
- Horizon Zero Dawn: The Frozen Wilds
- GT Sport
- All multiplatform games
Xbox has:
- Cuphead
- Forza 7
- Crackdown 3
- All multiplatform games
What else is there? Xbox fall is as weak/good as the PS4.
I mean the list seems pretty much on par, but PS4 has already had an amazing year of games while Xbox has been crap.
What am I missing here that will make my purchase of the XOX amazing? Both Sony and Nintendo had games that will be remembered as some of the best ever made in Horizon and BOTW, what has MS done for Xbox this year?
LordBaztion
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They need more exclusives, definitely but the list comparison to Sony is not necessarily fair.
Some title are Japanese and are exclusive because Japanese audience doesn't buy other console. Probably with the switch gaining momentum in Asia, there is going to be less of that kind of PS4 exclusives.
Other games like Hellblade are PS4 first either because of a times exclusivity or PS4 first due to the largest user base, which was the same that happened last gen.
MS is still doing a terrible work in their game publishing efforts. I was expecting that, even before last year's anemic E3 lineup, they to recognize the problem with their game publishing business and by now to have several projects in the work but the only thing we know so far is Gobo's game. So, yes, they dropped the ball very very hard and any game they started, let's say after the fence broke with scalebound, is going to be ready to show at least for next E3 and by know we should be already hearing the rumors.
Some title are Japanese and are exclusive because Japanese audience doesn't buy other console. Probably with the switch gaining momentum in Asia, there is going to be less of that kind of PS4 exclusives.
Other games like Hellblade are PS4 first either because of a times exclusivity or PS4 first due to the largest user base, which was the same that happened last gen.
MS is still doing a terrible work in their game publishing efforts. I was expecting that, even before last year's anemic E3 lineup, they to recognize the problem with their game publishing business and by now to have several projects in the work but the only thing we know so far is Gobo's game. So, yes, they dropped the ball very very hard and any game they started, let's say after the fence broke with scalebound, is going to be ready to show at least for next E3 and by know we should be already hearing the rumors.
Nekketsu Kõha;245825636 said:
The wii U which I own currently has a bigger selection of Nintendo games to play than the Switch though and I own the Switch too. Right now the PS4 has many exclusive games and its a good companion to a Switch or wii U. I recently added PC to my Nintendo/PS4 combo and its one of the best things I ever did too. 3DS is a great handheld with lots of games if you want to try that over mobile games fyi.
Have you heard of the...... PS4?