Is there a source for this? I know it's confirmed that we'll hear about it more in 2016, but when has it been said it's definitely releasing in 2016? Thanks.
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Is there a source for this? I know it's confirmed that we'll hear about it more in 2016, but when has it been said it's definitely releasing in 2016? Thanks.
I wouldn't. The 360 Arcade was the only model to hit $199 and it was pretty severely stripped down on the internal space and also discontinued. PS3 never hit that price. You can't even get XBO's for less than $300 let alone $200.
Yeah $250 seems like a good spot.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Impossible if so they would be making a super budget Xbox One. The 360 now that reached 179 for the holidays is only 4GB! The xbox one have 1TB consoles now
Seems like they are pretty reputable based the comments on neogaf and what press sites have to say about them. http://www.unseen64.net/
Did he? Can you please link?
I think that World of Final Fantasy or whatever it is will, because of the art style.
Now, my BIG question is if FF7r happened. Because that would be amazing if it did.
In regards to price, I say $250 for the Console.
Speculation. If the manufacturing rumors of June 2016 are true, then there is no way it doesn't release in 2016. Everything is speculation at this point.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Look, i don't know anything about NX, but if i believe one thing, then it's the fact, that it won't be a hybrid hardware, because that's what Iwata flat out denied.
Hmm, is there a source for that? Not doubting, just want to see for myself
He said it'd be like Brothers in the same family. They'd share a lot in common but could each do different things.
TheOnePercent
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I think Nintendo's completely anemic E3 lineup (coupled with Zelda vanishing into "2016" and today's Dragon Quest news) has most people convinced that they are now focusing all of their attention on the NX to get it out next year.
I'm sure we won't get any official date until Nintendo reveals what the hell the NX is, but the evidence for a 2016 release keeps piling up.
I agree. If we consider that this console will support Unreal 4, and that Nintendo don't want to pump out an expensive box, then $250 seems more reasonable.
OmegaSmash
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If the Home NX launches @ $250, then what of the handheld NX?
LegendofLex
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Not the same calendar year, but Nintendo 3DS came out less than a year after its reveal. Nintendo DS was also announced and released in 2004.
Hopefully no more than $150.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Still hard to see that. Xbox One is not even 300$ yet. And I believe MS just reported they lost money so even dropping to 350 didnt help much with profits.
I share Y2Kev's opinion in that anything over $150 is a death wish. Nintendo has got to keep things cheap, especially if they want to ship that rumored 20 million in the first year.
krizalidzero
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They did say Devil's Third wouldn't be published by Nintendo in America... and they were wrong, lol.
They also said the game sucks, and Famitsu said the game was good (kind of).
Can't really trust rumors anymore.
150$ is more than enough for a Vita++++++ handheld at this point.
First off, it needs to be clarified that DQXI was not confirmed for NX, but it is being taken into consideration. It's easy to parse such a statement as "based on what Nintendo's shown us on paper, we can do this. But Wii U looked better on paper, as well, so we're going to wait for a dev kit build and a confirmed release window before we make the final decision."
And the announcement seems to line up perfectly with what I suggested is likely to happen: Japanese 3rd-parties wanting to start a console multi-platform strategy in Japan that can carry over to the West and (to a lesser extent) Europe, so they can finally maximize their sales opportunities worldwide, unlike with multi-plats on Xbox consoles.
This isn't the last announcement we're likely to hear, either. Square Enix throwing their hat in this early is going to be something the rest of them pay attention to.
I feel greatly vindicated right now.
Yep. A DQ title that isn't an MMO or spinoff at launch is a major talking point and sure to generate a lot of interest in the platform in Japan.
It's happened once or twice, but it's not a frequent thing.
Which means the less-than-$200 Nintendo box talk is over? Probably the best part of this news.
Wii U is no longer selling at a loss. It's part of the reason that their financials improved. I don't even know where to start with these misconceptions.
It cost too much at launch for what it offered, definitely.
How is a greater possibility of 3rd-party titles alongside better-looking Nintendo games not help to them? It's certainly not a hindrance, that's for sure. Add that to whatever else Nintendo opts to bring to the table and there's a chance to move the needle, even if it's only modestly at first.
.... you realize you can cater to more than one audience, right? Especially when one of those audiences is as small as the current Nintendo console consumer.
That's only 100% true if every PS4/XBO owner is a Sony or MS enthusiast. That's not to say that all of them would buy another console, but it doesn't dissuade that, depending on whatever else Nintendo brings to the table. This myth of a "locked-in" consumer is pretty ridiculous.
And that's all without talking about the people who haven't even bought a PS4 or XBO yet.
It really is ramping up to be an intensely interesting year in 2016.
And the announcement seems to line up perfectly with what I suggested is likely to happen: Japanese 3rd-parties wanting to start a console multi-platform strategy in Japan that can carry over to the West and (to a lesser extent) Europe, so they can finally maximize their sales opportunities worldwide, unlike with multi-plats on Xbox consoles.
This isn't the last announcement we're likely to hear, either. Square Enix throwing their hat in this early is going to be something the rest of them pay attention to.
I feel greatly vindicated right now.
Yep. A DQ title that isn't an MMO or spinoff at launch is a major talking point and sure to generate a lot of interest in the platform in Japan.
It's happened once or twice, but it's not a frequent thing.
Which means the less-than-$200 Nintendo box talk is over? Probably the best part of this news.
Wii U is no longer selling at a loss. It's part of the reason that their financials improved. I don't even know where to start with these misconceptions.
It cost too much at launch for what it offered, definitely.
How is a greater possibility of 3rd-party titles alongside better-looking Nintendo games not help to them? It's certainly not a hindrance, that's for sure. Add that to whatever else Nintendo opts to bring to the table and there's a chance to move the needle, even if it's only modestly at first.
.... you realize you can cater to more than one audience, right? Especially when one of those audiences is as small as the current Nintendo console consumer.
That's only 100% true if every PS4/XBO owner is a Sony or MS enthusiast. That's not to say that all of them would buy another console, but it doesn't dissuade that, depending on whatever else Nintendo brings to the table. This myth of a "locked-in" consumer is pretty ridiculous.
And that's all without talking about the people who haven't even bought a PS4 or XBO yet.
It really is ramping up to be an intensely interesting year in 2016.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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DQXI was confirmed for NX on stage. The press release "cleaned" that up though.
TheOnePercent
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XSeed was likely going to publish it, until NoA changed their mind. Stumpokapow had heard the same thing.
Anyone know the highest specs they'd be able to hit at $250 on the home console? I know you cant know for sure but I'm wondering where the specs would be in comparison to the hd twins. I imagine the Wii U could have been pretty beefy at $300 if they didn't prioritize the controller and low power consumption/small form factor.
The Wii U can run UE4, so NX running it doesn't tell us much of anything about specs.
What it does tell us is that UE4 is probably up and running already on NX. Seems unlikely Square-Enix would be the ones doing that themselves. I think that's a much more interesting takeaway here.
What it does tell us is that UE4 is probably up and running already on NX. Seems unlikely Square-Enix would be the ones doing that themselves. I think that's a much more interesting takeaway here.
Grampa Simpson
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Benchmarking for an NVIDIA Shield Android TV running Ubuntu:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-tegra-x1&num=1
Would be a good comparison point for a modern ARM $200 console.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-tegra-x1&num=1
Would be a good comparison point for a modern ARM $200 console.
Fourth Storm
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There's alot between "competing w/ PS4 on specs" (which Miyamoto himself expressed disinterest in just in a recent E3 interview) and a $150 Netflix box.
Remember, we know for sure that the $150 rumor was inaccurate and that the box is more capable than Wii U. Speculate on...
Remember, we know for sure that the $150 rumor was inaccurate and that the box is more capable than Wii U. Speculate on...
Officially the Wii U doesn't support UE4.
Not really. Instead of paying a similar amount for a last-gen console, they'd pay the same for a current-gen console. It's hardly the same situation.
That's not to say there's no challenges to that, but without knowing the full picture of what Nintendo plans to offer, it's a touch premature to say no one will buy something.
Technically 3DS was. It was announced in March 2010, shown officially at E3 2010 and released in February of 2011, so announced and released all within 12 months.
Gamecube was also just over that marker, being released 13 months after its original non-codename unveiling.
Unseen64 has publicly stepped away from the commentary of its individual contributors, and he's been pretty all over the place when it comes to this subject (not to mention avoiding discussing it in earnest) that what has been said amounts to nothing until it's elaborated on.
Please pull the quote.
schaft0620
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What UE4 games are on the Wii U?
LegendofLex
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That's not necessarily confirmed. All we know is that because Nintendo dramatically overestimated Wii U sales back in the FY ended March 2014, they've already booked all their losses on Wii U hardware. I don't think Wii U has even met those estimates yet (they still haven't shipped the 2013-14 estimate of 9 million consoles between March 2013 and now) despite it being almost a year and a half later. Suffice to say that they aren't taking hardware losses, but that might not be because revenues have outpaced costs of sale (emphasis on might; we really have no idea since I believe they've been silent on this since then), it might be because of their accounting practices.
Iwata said:
OG_Original Gamer
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Oh yeah, and now Sony owns the eDRAM tech that's in Latte.
Bloodstained is going to. As noted above, it is not officially supported on the Wii U, which is no surprise. Wii U doesn't have the hardware to make it an easy port and it's pretty much dead for third parties who would be looking for UE4 support.
But the point isn't about performance; you can't gleam much other than "yeah, UE4 is running on NX." And that is not a performance indicator with such little context.
No but they have to do it this time, they are not about to go two E3's of showing off NX before launch, thats way too long.
And they are not likely to Launch NX any other time besides the Holiday season
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Also gives credence to it not being a handheld. If its a handheld stronger than Wii U then wtf lol
Cool thank you!
It does indicate though. Unless you think SE is dedicating resources to port UE4 to Nintendo. I think it is more likely it is powerful enough to run it natively.
Didn't someone port UE3 to Wii for a game?
That Miyamoto quote really doesn't say that they're averse to a higher spec.
"And the reason for that is that, No. 1, we like to do things that are unique and different from other companies, but we also don't want to just end up in a race to have the highest-tech specs in a competition to try to find how we get these expensive tech specs to the lowest price of the other systems. And so there's different ways that we can approach it"
Using the word "just" is stating that it's all that their competition has been concerned with for several years, but also that it doesn't exclude them from ever offering that, just so long as it's not their only end goal.
So that quote tells us nothing new regarding Nintendo's design intentions, like almost every quote of its kind. They always make it quite clear that they're not against high-spec devices, only that it can't be the only thing you offer the consumer with the hardware.
No, Matt is also talking about NX being a handheld elsewhere. Both SKUs exist.
LegendofLex
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He's just parroting the longtime philosophy advanced by Genyo Takeda, which is that game hardware isn't just about pushing the limits of performance but is also about finding a way to achieve efficiency for the consumer - the common analogy is about cars, where there's a lucrative, prestige-driven market for high-performance vehicles but most consumers just want a fuel-efficient, family-friendly vehicle that gets them around.
Nintendo obviously isn't going to fit with the high-performance market; they would be doing themselves (and the consumers who justify the direction they go with their games) a disservice by pursuing that direction. And Miyamoto isn't saying anything we haven't been hearing for the last 10 years.
I dunno, to me it seems like the most likely thing would be to ask amd for similiar chipset as ps4 or at the very least xb1. At least that's what I would do if I were a Nintendo exec. The process is mature and there would be less chances of bad yields, etc. You would think R&D would be much lower too. And then it would be good to have relative parity with the market.
I think the failure of the GamePad to capture the imagination of the market has resulted in a lot of people sleepwalking into the presumption that NX will just be a traditional gaming box with a traditional interface.
I'm not so convinced Nintendo is ready to shed its philosophy of looking for a unique hook - a 'gimmick' for want of a better word - to marry with affordable hardware
It's why I kind of think the price debate is a little moot.
I think they will go hunting for a hook again, whether it be controller, interface, or something more nuanced.
I'm not so convinced Nintendo is ready to shed its philosophy of looking for a unique hook - a 'gimmick' for want of a better word - to marry with affordable hardware
It's why I kind of think the price debate is a little moot.
I think they will go hunting for a hook again, whether it be controller, interface, or something more nuanced.
ds was announced in 2004 and released in 2004.
Yeah but a car analogy doesn't really make a lot of sense in the electronics space where the wattage difference is going to be pretty minimal, and you're still paying $350 instead of $400 upfront. It's not like a 20k car vs a $70k car and 40mpg vs 15mpg. You're also talking about transportation which is a relative necessity versus a videogame machine.
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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Im talking about the one the OP was talking about there. Assuming console.
Impossible to know, and even Tamaki didn't know when he made the original tweet.
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