I can't believe how low Mother 3, FFIV, Suiko 1&2, Vagrant, Tengai Makyô IV, Tactics Ogre, DraQue V, Shining Force III, VP, Phantasy Star II or Zelda ALTTP are on this list...
I agree with this decision. If all goes well, next year we'll have a new number 1Hey everyone.
I'm glad to see that there is still interest in this thread.
I was thinking of putting the list on hiatus this year, and coming back in late 2014 for a fifth anniversary thread. As satellite says, the list is a lot of work (like 50+ hours to do what I did last year), and I don't think 2013 was a banner year for RPGs. While it would be cool to see Fire Emblem shoot up the list a bit, I think the results would mostly mirror what we saw last year.
Next year will see us through the generation transition. It will also bring on the Witcher 3, Dark Souls 2, some of the highly anticipated kickstarter titles like Wasteland 2 and Pillars of Eternity, plus others. We might also see Fallout 4, and a few other bigger titles. Overall, I think it will make for a fresher voting experience, and perhaps some of the regulars like Dark Schala won't feel burnt out from participating.
I agree, except maybe replace "mediocre" with "decent".I certainly don't agree with it, but I'm trying to think of a single RPG thread, conversation or list that I've seen in the past few years that hasn't spewed on and on about it. I think it's a mediocre, barely disguised dating sim with boring, repetitive dungeons and super obnoxious voice acting, but hey. It gets the people goin'
Hey everyone.
I'm glad to see that there is still interest in this thread.
I was thinking of putting the list on hiatus this year, and coming back in late 2014 for a fifth anniversary thread. As satellite says, the list is a lot of work (like 50+ hours to do what I did last year), and I don't think 2013 was a banner year for RPGs. While it would be cool to see Fire Emblem shoot up the list a bit, I think the results would mostly mirror what we saw last year.
Next year will see us through the generation transition. It will also bring on the Witcher 3, Dark Souls 2, some of the highly anticipated kickstarter titles like Wasteland 2 and Pillars of Eternity, plus others. We might also see Fallout 4, and a few other bigger titles. Overall, I think it will make for a fresher voting experience, and perhaps some of the regulars like Dark Schala won't feel burnt out from participating.
I think skipping a year is a good idea. I'm still slowly by surely making my way through the list, playing the ones I haven't yet anyway. As stated, not a whole lot has come out 2013 in the RPG landscape, so we'd most likely only get a slight reshuffle.
The biggest change at the top I'd imagine would be a drop for Persona 4, since the hype of its re-release has calmed down.
That fallout 3/new vegas vote still upsets me. We can't have a thread dedicated to RPGs supposedly by people who know RPGs and yet vote a game that's worse in literally every RPG aspect several spots higher.
The problem with doing lists based on random lists people post is that you end up with overall results that display a strong bias towards specific types of RPG's. In this case, it's pretty clear that there's an extremely strong bias towards JRPG's over WRPG's.
At least a list put together by a group of editors at some site would have looked over what they did and noticed the bias and then come up with something halfway credible. GAF has no business complaining about any of those 'top games' lists.
I'm betting a very very small percentage.people on these forums have played Baldur's Gate 2 or Planescape Torment so I'm surprised they're even on that list.
First time seeing this list....goddamn Persona 4 is overrated.
It's overrated, but I can see why it's loved, it's pretty easy to get into and the everyone loves the cast.
First time seeing this list....goddamn Persona 4 is overrated.
What are people's thoughts about me running a new edition of this list for late summer 2014 instead of December like I mentioned 6 months back? I originally wanted to wait for most of the 2014 releases to drop, but I am not going to have time to do this next winter (new baby + I teach full time from Sept to June). The plan would be to open voting in about 2 months, and make the 5th edition list in August.
Late summer, huh? If I did make a list, it would cut down the amount of writing I have to do in December. I have to admit that I get burned out on posting during GotY/SotY/RPG Essentials because my posts tend to be so long, and since I have more stuff to do around that time, it'd be more convenient to do the Essentials thread in summer instead. I like that plan.What are people's thoughts about me running a new edition of this list for late summer 2014 instead of December like I mentioned 6 months back? I originally wanted to wait for most of the 2014 releases to drop, but I am not going to have time to do this next winter (new baby + I teach full time from Sept to June). The plan would be to open voting in about 2 months, and make the 5th edition list in August.
What are people's thoughts about me running a new edition of this list for late summer 2014 instead of December like I mentioned 6 months back? I originally wanted to wait for most of the 2014 releases to drop, but I am not going to have time to do this next winter (new baby + I teach full time from Sept to June). The plan would be to open voting in about 2 months, and make the 5th edition list in August.
I mean i own 2 copies of the game and really liked it, it definitely belongs in top 20 maybe top 15...but damn...
I guess alot of votes come from people who played Golden which is probably the easiest and accessible Megaten game ever.
Late summer, huh? If I did make a list, it would cut down the amount of writing I have to do in December. I have to admit that I get burned out on posting during GotY/SotY/RPG Essentials because my posts tend to be so long, and since I have more stuff to do around that time, it'd be more convenient to do the Essentials thread in summer instead. I like that plan.
Like I said last year, I'm not entirely sure I'm going to vote. There are a few changes in my list at this point in time (I'm actually a little surprised with that since my 2012 and 2013 lists barely look different), especially since I'm trying to complete the NES/FC RPG library, and because I'm playing more stuff I didn't have access to as a youth.
PS: Congrats on your new baby!
Edit: What I was thinking, if I actually did vote, was not picking the best of the best or the cream of the crop, but games that put a revolutionary spin on things instead and make the list function as something with a historical perspective. That never really gets highlighted in this thread, and it's something I've wanted to tackle for a while.
It's not the new RPGs, it's younger ones getting perspective that shifts the list alot as well.
PS: Congrats on your new baby!
Also congrats on the baby. 4 more years till that first RPG. hehe
I mean i own 2 copies of the game and really liked it, it definitely belongs in top 20 maybe top 15...but damn...
I guess alot of votes come from people who played Golden which is probably the easiest and accessible Megaten game ever.
I mean i own 2 copies of the game and really liked it, it definitely belongs in top 20 maybe top 15...but damn...
I guess alot of votes come from people who played Golden which is probably the easiest and accessible Megaten game ever.
I'll compile the list of other Essential threads we've had, though I will warn that vote threads should be made with a mod's permission given the string of voting threads we'd had in 2012.I was wondering if someone would do a similar list for Shoot-'em-ups? If I knew how to gather the data, I'd happily make it.
Decent list. But I'm quite shocked to see FO1+2 ranked so low and FO3 ranked the highest. The complete opposite of what it should be. And KotOR 2 should be above KotOR 1 and Deus Ex should be above almost everything else. Glad to see PS:T so high on the list though.
Would be interesting if wRPG's and jRPG's were voted on seperately.
It's probably worth revisiting on the heels of a noteworthy announcement day that impacted two of the games in the Top 20 (FFVII and Suikoden II) and Dragon Age: Inquisition's big win at last night's Game Awards. I'd be curious as to where Dark Souls II, Bravely Default, Wasteland 2, Legend of Grimrock II, South Park: The Stick of Truth and Diablo III post-overhaul would wind up as well.Please tell me this is happening this year! I know it skipped last year but I'd really love to see GAF's reworked list.
Please tell me this is happening this year! I know it skipped last year but I'd really love to see GAF's reworked list.
My original plans to do a summer version of the list fell through, but I still am still planning on 5th edition of the thread/list launching some time this month. As others have said, 2 years gives a bit of breathing room, and there is plenty of new blood on the forum that may be interested in contributing.
It would have been nice to have had The Witcher 3, Pillars of Eternity and Persona 5 out in time for this year's vote, but there's always going to be something big getting delayed.
If people have suggestions on tweaks for the new edition of the thread (format, rules, etc), let me know. If anyone wants to help put together the finished product when the time comes, let me know that as well.