I've not played the PS3 game so there's no way I'd know, but I do know there's no Nonono.
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Onechanbara Z2 Chaos |OT| Girls, Garters and Gory
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I've not played the PS3 game so there's no way I'd know, but I do know there's no Nonono.
Mountainmohawk
Member
Hmm, this is weird. This doesn't seem as gory as the the last game on 360. Am I just imagining things, or were the previous games more "visceral"?
I find it interesting the online manual has less pages then the physical one.
See, for me, this game massively outclasses Lollipop Chainsaw for exactly that reason. I loved clearing Chainsaw once for the story, but it was far less satisfying to actually play because the combat wasn't especially satisfying. But you're dead right - if you want a B game that feels like a B movie, you'd want Lollipop Chainsaw and not Onechanbara.
Equipping a piece of toast changes the dynamics.
Yeah, I only did a cool combo once and that was pure button smashing. I briefly tried doing that in Practice mode but I can't seem to nail Kagura's down.
Yup; if the combat was terrible I wouldn't have even given this a chance. What's the point of a game if it's not fun to play?
That's just how we roll! You'll find the same is true of every one of our games that includes both a physical and digital manual (all of our 3DS games, for instance).
-Tom
Heh, ended up finding a way on gfaqs right after posting, something about
chapter 4
I'll admit, I've been using that COOL training wheels ring since about 2h into the game, it basically makes sure you can't not get a cool hit.
Training mode is pretty awesome showing the right timing and all, but I just can't get anyone's cool combo past the 5th or 6th hit.
SerTapTap
Member
This game is kind of the exact opposite of Lollipop Chainsaw. Not AAA exactly but much higher production values throughout, IMO a much more convincing B movie feel, but the combat was pretty cheap. Didn't bother replaying though I preferred basically everything but combat to this game.
PepperedHam
Member
This is a blast to play. Impulse pre-ordered due to the Banana Split Edition, Best Buy's GCU and my desire to not miss out on limited physical runs like this and I'm super glad I did.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Just wanted to say that this game has a surprisingly good soundtrack.
That is all.
That is all.
I see why impressions of the Japanese import were less positive. If you don't know Mudmen can only be killed with the Open-Palm strike or Berzerk mode...you're going to have a bad time. I imagine the Mission Mode is essentially impenetrable in the import.
Oh, and since people were asking about buying weapons earlier: they're power upgrades. I think they also Stain less easily (by the way, how awesome is the weapon bloodstain mechanic? Bloodstains make the girls more powerful, but clog up their weapons? I love finishing a combo with a refresh. It's like active reload for swords!). Purchase a new chainsaw for Saaya, and it'll be better than the one you're using. Each character has three versions of each weapon. And not all subweapons are upgradable: Aya's shots and Saki's parry count as Skills, so you upgrade them as if they were techniques.
Oh, and since people were asking about buying weapons earlier: they're power upgrades. I think they also Stain less easily (by the way, how awesome is the weapon bloodstain mechanic? Bloodstains make the girls more powerful, but clog up their weapons? I love finishing a combo with a refresh. It's like active reload for swords!). Purchase a new chainsaw for Saaya, and it'll be better than the one you're using. Each character has three versions of each weapon. And not all subweapons are upgradable: Aya's shots and Saki's parry count as Skills, so you upgrade them as if they were techniques.
Yeeeep, really liking it too. The song from Peru is my favorite. I leave it playing while browsing gaf.
Demoskinos
Member
Yo, that last boss in Japan is real dumb. I got V ranks on everything except the last fight. =\
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I plan on getting this soon. I actually liked the X360 version, so I imagine that this one is considerably better. I wonder how long the Banana Split Edition will be around. I still got a decent backlog to get through.
Demoskinos
Member
I'm guessing it will be most likely the only physical print of the game. Same goes for a lot of games like this that XSEED does they release a fancy physical edition as a first print for the hardcore fans and then sell the digital version.
SerTapTap
Member
What's the deal with the girl who's O move just makes her change stances? I can't seem to do anything with it.
The legs of that boss are terribly designed crap.
The legs of that boss are terribly designed crap.
robotzombie
Member
Its a counter, do it when an enemy is attacking you.
What I don't understand is how the "combo" of the counter works? Are you supposed to press circle a bunch of times FIRST, and time it so that the last one is the one an enemy hits? Or are you supposed to counter first and keep being able to press Circle to continue a chain?
Ok, my interest is piqued........
Is buying things of the US PSN in the UK as simple as.
1) Make US PSN account on my UK PS4
2) Buy some US PSN credit, redeem to US PSN account
3) Buy US stuff from US store.
4) Log in to my UK account and play?
Or do I just wait for the EU release..........
Is buying things of the US PSN in the UK as simple as.
1) Make US PSN account on my UK PS4
2) Buy some US PSN credit, redeem to US PSN account
3) Buy US stuff from US store.
4) Log in to my UK account and play?
Or do I just wait for the EU release..........
Demoskinos
Member
Yup if its on your local ps4 you should be able to play it on whatever other accounts you have on the console. That's exactly how I play JP import releases I buy them on my JP account and then switch over to my main North American account and play.
Sweet, thanks, I'll do that then!
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I see. The sooner I get it the better then. I prefer to have the physical version anyway.
SerTapTap
Member
Meant to finish the first playthrough last night but I got a new game to review. I just finished a 50+ floor office building, I assume I'm close to the end of the game? Do I unlock all difficulties at once or do I have to beat hard to get the hardest one?
Only complication is the actual buying and you'll need to switch to the account of the region that "owns" it to buy DLC (it will update automatically and play perfectly fine from any account). I have several JApanese and one EU game on my US PS4 with no issues.
The trophies are even in your region's language if possible--My Estival Versus trophies have been in English since launch even before the localization was announced.
Only complication is the actual buying and you'll need to switch to the account of the region that "owns" it to buy DLC (it will update automatically and play perfectly fine from any account). I have several JApanese and one EU game on my US PS4 with no issues.
The trophies are even in your region's language if possible--My Estival Versus trophies have been in English since launch even before the localization was announced.
Nope, one by one: hard > violent > berserk. Don't bother with casual, it won't unlock anything.
Lollipop Chainsaw is more b-tier development that is EMULATING low budget grindhouse style. That's Suda's entire shtick.
Welcome to the REAL bottom of the barrel budget game.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
I think I'll get this when it goes significantly down in price. I can't imagine this being a game that holds it's value like, say, a Bayonetta 2. But I'm willing to pay full price for Bayo. I think maybe I'd pay $30 for this?
That's not a comment on it's quality. It looks like at least a $45 value or $50. But when it come's to a game I don't even know if I'll like, $30 is lookin' right for me.
That's not a comment on it's quality. It looks like at least a $45 value or $50. But when it come's to a game I don't even know if I'll like, $30 is lookin' right for me.
I looked this up - "Onee-chan" means "big sister"; "chanbara" means "swordfighting". The English version of the 360 game simplified the spelling by changing it to "Onechanbara" for no good reason, destroying the Japanese wordplay and causing a bunch of people to mispronounce the first syllable.
Demoskinos
Member
So this is dumb... I have been getting V ranks on every mission so far on Medium except the first one which I've only gotten a B rank at. I... don't know what I'm doing wrong. =\
BuckRobotron
Member
I picked it up as I said I would earlier, as followup to a previous post. Just shifted to picking it up at Best Buy (now 1 left on the shelf) to get the gamers club discount instead of Amazon. Would have waited until later but I like how they put in an English dub (and the LE treatment) and decided to reward their efforts now. Will revisit the old 360 game until I pull the trigger on a PS4, which could be any day now.
Normally I'd agree with you but EVERYTHING surrounding the very core combat mechanics are awful and even then, the core combat isn't nearly good enough to make up for it. It feels like the devs tried mixing Devil May Cry and Dynasty Warriors without really understanding the strengths and weaknesses of those types of game. There's also literally a handful of enemy types and the game doesn't even try to mix it up. They just throw waves and waves of enemies at you and call it a day. When you have all of this in conjunction with graduate student-tier level design, it becomes evident the core combat isn't enough to make the game even remotely enjoyable for me.
And this is coming from a person who loves the shit out of Drakengard 3.
We debated going with "Oneechanbara" with two Es, but decided against it for one simple reason: in standard English, two Es produces a long "e" sound, as in "see" or "flee." So with two Es, the likelihood that people not in the know would pronounce the name "o-NEE-chan-bah-rah" was pretty high (the actual pronunciation is more like "o-NAY-chan-bah-rah"). And, when pronounced with a long "e" sound, the Japanese takes on kind of the opposite meaning, since "onii-chan" means "big brother."
Spelling it "Onechanbara" does mean people might pronounce it "WUN-chan-bah-rah," but... ehh, it's a lose-lose situation. Unless we wanted to completely rename it, the Japanese pun would be partially lost either way, and we weren't about to completely rename an established series. So we settled on the lesser of two evils.
-Tom
Demoskinos
Member
We debated going with "Oneechanbara" with two Es, but decided against it for one simple reason: in standard English, two Es produces a long "e" sound, as in "see" or "flee." So with two Es, the likelihood that people not in the know would pronounce the name "o-NEE-chan-bah-rah" was pretty high (the actual pronunciation is more like "o-NAY-chan-bah-rah"). And, when pronounced with a long "e" sound, the Japanese takes on kind of the opposite meaning, since "onii-chan" means "big brother."
Spelling it "Onechanbara" does mean people might pronounce it "WUN-chan-bah-rah," but... ehh, it's a lose-lose situation. Unless we wanted to completely rename it, the Japanese pun would be partially lost either way, and we weren't about to completely rename an established series. So we settled on the lesser of two evils.
-Tom
This kind of stuff is fascinating to me. I can't wait for more localisation blogs.
ShinMaruku
Member
It's basically a different with transcribing the kana and Kanji. There are two ways of transcribing Kanji one is most certinly more western friendly. It's like Oneechanbara and Gokuu or Gouku, same thing it's all the same when pronounced.
We debated going with "Oneechanbara" with two Es, but decided against it for one simple reason: in standard English, two Es produces a long "e" sound, as in "see" or "flee." So with two Es, the likelihood that people not in the know would pronounce the name "o-NEE-chan-bah-rah" was pretty high (the actual pronunciation is more like "o-NAY-chan-bah-rah"). And, when pronounced with a long "e" sound, the Japanese takes on kind of the opposite meaning, since "onii-chan" means "big brother."
Spelling it "Onechanbara" does mean people might pronounce it "WUN-chan-bah-rah," but... ehh, it's a lose-lose situation. Unless we wanted to completely rename it, the Japanese pun would be partially lost either way, and we weren't about to completely rename an established series. So we settled on the lesser of two evils.
-Tom
See, IMHO, "Oneechanbara" and "Onechanbara" are equally meaningless to most westerners, but the former makes sense when you look it up, while the latter is just like "oh, the western version drops the 'e' for no apparent reason". If nothing else, maintaining the extra 'e' keeps the title consistent with the Japanese release. But hey, it is what it is - I'm just glad I get to play it. You guys really did an amazing job with the localization.
Any idea when the DLC costumes mentioned in the artbook will drop?
Not something I've been paying much attention to, to be entirely honest, but our usual M.O. is to start dropping DLC anywhere between one and three weeks after the game's official release date. The one person who would be able to answer this question definitively (without doing considerable digging) is out of the office right now (at voice recording, actually), and we're going into the weekend, so I won't be able to check for certain until Monday -- but if I had to wager a guess, I'd say... a week from this coming Tuesday? Maybe?
I can check for certain on Monday, but one of you guys will likely have to remind me, since I'm sure my head will be full of weekend non-activities by then.
-Tom
Pejo
Member
This game is exactly what I hoped it would be. So much fun swapping characters mid combo and switching weapons mid combo and ending the combo with a refresh. I still suck really bad, although I've been platinuming the levels on Medium mode. I have no idea what I'm doing yet, and I keep trying to read those hints on the load screens but it loads before I finish. The game does a sorta bad job of explaining all the systems. I really like the girl with the chainsaw, but her moves are so slow, can't do it. Looks like my favorite to play so far is Aya.
CamHostage
Member
But that's the thing: it does not "{keep} the title consistent with the Japanese release" because the Japanese series title is THE お姉チャンバラ. If you look up "Oneechan" in an English dictionary, you won't find it (or "Onechan" either, for that matter.) The romanization of Japanese words is often up to interpretation and dependent on pronunciation unless it is specifically defined. (Thus, the English name written on the flip-side of import games is sometimes spelled insanely weird; Japanese websites also have interesting URLs since they have to romanize their text even if the games don't yet have official western names.) The second "E" in "Onee" was probably added by whoever translated that back in the day in order to help people understand that it's a doublelong E sound, but since our language is so simplified (thank god) we lost the plot and call it "On-EY-chan" or "On-EEE-Chan", but never "On-e'e-Chan" (unless we fear the wrath of 4chan) as I believe it's supposed to be said. And since "お姉ちゃん", or "Onee-chan" is part of a part of speech that we don't really even have (it's sort of an honorific, although I'm not sure if it applies when it's clustered in such a way,) even the literal translation of "big sister" doesn't really work.
Plus "Sword-Fighting Big Sister" would probably raise more eyebrows than what they ended up putting on the box. A Japanese name keeps the series under the radar without too many people getting squicked by there being a game about half-naked girls slicing zombies up with swords.
In 2006 when the Onechanbara name was made up, otaku culture had not yet made "Onee-chan" a geek-household name. Now that it's as established as it is, the name is a bit confusing, but that's the trademark.
But so be it. Enjoy the game.
The more you know indeed, happy to be corrected Tom. (I changed the text to avoid future confusion.)
Aha, so it was an issue of timing. That makes more sense to me. I'd just read the Wikipedia entry, which makes the different title seem more like a pointless change.
Came to this game ready to be disappointed but man my couple of hours over the last 3 days have been a blast.
This game reminds me of the arcade days when you would see a new 3D game for the first time and the high framerate and insane particle effects would overload your brain (i.e. China boss after triggering Cross Merge).
I love the speed of the combat. I'm sure I don't get it yet but using the X-hold to zoom at enemies and comboing them in the air is great.
To me feels more like Dynasty Warriors, and (with the way I've been playing: zoom towards enemies and slash-slash-slash) Killer is Dead than it feels like either Lollipop Chainsaw or Drakengard 3. All games I really liked.
A little repetitive no doubt, but it keeps me entertained sitting down for 20min a day to clear a level and unlock some stuff. Glad I bought digital so I can just load it up for a 20min play session here and there.
This game reminds me of the arcade days when you would see a new 3D game for the first time and the high framerate and insane particle effects would overload your brain (i.e. China boss after triggering Cross Merge).
I love the speed of the combat. I'm sure I don't get it yet but using the X-hold to zoom at enemies and comboing them in the air is great.
To me feels more like Dynasty Warriors, and (with the way I've been playing: zoom towards enemies and slash-slash-slash) Killer is Dead than it feels like either Lollipop Chainsaw or Drakengard 3. All games I really liked.
A little repetitive no doubt, but it keeps me entertained sitting down for 20min a day to clear a level and unlock some stuff. Glad I bought digital so I can just load it up for a 20min play session here and there.
