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Only Xbox One X will download the 4K assets.
- Thread starter Gamezone
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Outrun
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Well your ISP is certainly living up to their name..
MilkyJoe
Member
Owner's first name is Issac...
I don't think he's trying to be a dick.
If you deal with data caps, then HQ assets aren't in the cards for you. It's a niche market- one that has specific hardware and services requirements to be a part of
The economics for delivering this HQ content on a second disc aren't sound(because there is little demand for these assets) and they can't fit on a single disc.
For people in this boat, the best we can hope for are better laws, and failing that, an option to play with all of the other X1 benefits, but w/o HQ assets.
I agree.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Until the base game gets too big.
The Pet of the Month
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I mean, we're pretty close as it is. Iirc when I downloaded everything for Quantum Break, it came to 125 GB
Someday, games could even take a whole terabyte!
Doesn't seem like that's anything close to being a norm this gen...
Colbert
Banned
That is the reason why I said depending on the situation you are why even consider to buy a Xbox One X if there are such limitations? If I wouldn't have a good internet I would still buy disks instead of being 100% digital this generation and I wouldn't consider to buy a Xbox One X because of that. To use an analogy here, I would never buy a sports car in the US as you can't drive them to their fullest speed on the streets because of the general speed limit. But I have one because I live in Germany where I can drive it to its speed limit on the "Autobahn".
Do we even know that this download of HQ assets is not optional on the X?
It sounds like it can be optional depending on the publisher:
As part our developer readiness for Xbox One X, we have made available a feature which will give them significant flexibility when it comes to what gets installed on a users console, the Microsoft representative continued. In addition to 4K specific assets, developers have options when it comes to language specific assets as well, which depending on the title, can drastically reduce the install footprint. This ability to intelligently install the best assets for each console and language are available on all Xbox One devices, and it will be up to the developer of the game to determine the specific implementation.
People seem to be freaking out and nothing has even happened yet.
It sounds like it can be optional depending on the publisher:
As part our developer readiness for Xbox One X, we have made available a feature which will give them significant flexibility when it comes to what gets installed on a users console, the Microsoft representative continued. In addition to 4K specific assets, developers have options when it comes to language specific assets as well, which depending on the title, can drastically reduce the install footprint. This ability to intelligently install the best assets for each console and language are available on all Xbox One devices, and it will be up to the developer of the game to determine the specific implementation.
People seem to be freaking out and nothing has even happened yet.
I wouldn't expect to see Halo 5 setting any trends in file management. There's a bunch of bad decisions contributing to the bloated size of the game. Including shit like:
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=241344444
Gamezone
Gold Member
The boycott would, for me personally, be more of a MS aren't offering me a disc version of this content and I want to pay MS money for a disc. I have, arguably foolishly, sat out this generation because I've been waiting to see if goty editions and complete versions will come to patch the games that are increasingly shipped half complete. The 4K assets are just the next level of this.
BTW: thank you for your reasoned discussion with Matt over the last pages.
Thank you for your responses and empathy. It's not like I know my efforts are largely futile but I appreciate that you see it's my perogatice to assert them.
Based on how Phil Spencer portrays his thinking. A Forza fan like myself not buying the box will hopefully tell him he needs to be receptive to something isn't being provided to a potential customer. Maybe he'll follow that receptiveness to open a dialog about how physical media might be the end desire, not removal of 4K content.
I wasn't very clear before. Let me say I'd be fine with the sale being up front. Example: I purchase from MS a Forza 7 final cut sku on launch day. It has the normal box and is otherwise the same as the normal Forza 7 box and disc. I pay, however, $80 instead of $60. Throughout the patch cycle I deal with patches and the internet if I want to play multiplayer with friends (and I do.) In exchange for my extra money, I will get a final version disc in the mail that has all the patches when Turn10 moves onto Forza 8 in two-ish years.
Thanks! I realize what I like about consoles is dying in many respects. I can just continue to PC game and when the eventual PS5 remaster of a game comes out it'll likely be complete then.
You could give me a "special" final version case sleeve or a limited print run of developer signed poster (or not) if you're concerned about PR issues.
It's never been under the radar for those that care. It's just an opportunity to discuss in this thread. (Note: it's great that MS is making the downloads more intelligent for those that prefer downloading. I hope people see the issue I'm voicing has nothing to do with the great download options, just the thread has naturally turned to it.)
The telecom unchecked natural monopolies in the USA are indeed an issue for everyone stateside.
Fair enough. But if they never offered a 4K version at all, would you then view the purchase as worthwhile?
That's what's weird to me and while I feel a boycott would send a mixed message. If 1080p was the only option it's worth $60. But Now that there exists a way to install better textures, but it requires a DL, suddenly the game loses its value.
Not buying the box because you don't like how content is distributed on it makes more sense to me than not buying the game.
If I had a data cap issue, then the xb1x wouldn't be for me. If MS wanted me to by an xb1x they'd have to find a way to distribute xb1x content in a way that fits my situation.
Fredrik
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Lol that is a bad anology, lots and lots of people buy sport cars only to drive slowly around the city to show off or to break the law by driving faster than the speed limit or to race between the traffic lights. Same thing with bikes. Autobahn is a luxury not many have or need but sports cars are still sold all over the world.
What if they added visuals settings? (which I've been asking for since forever)
Then there could be a point to strip away lots of visually demanding stuff if you'd want to try hit 60fps instead of having pretty graphics. When you flick the 4K assets option on there could be a warning "This will download 50GB of extra data. Are you sure you want to continue? Press A for YES or B for NO."
Colbert
Banned
You seem not to like the analogy? LOL? Of course people buy those cars, thats not the point, the point is from a logical sensical (efficiency) pov such a car doesn't make sense because any car that can drive within the speed limit and same comfort would do it (for a lower price, less gas consumption, less maintaining cost).
So why buy this console if you don't want/can't really make use of the capabilities?
I know its a black and white pov I take here but I do this in the interest of the argument. Because my position is: Don't blame the manufacturer for the speed limits or data caps of your ISP as you can't blame the manufacturer of the sports car that you can't drive the thing to its higher speeds available to you.
An option you describe would of course be a plus for people with data caps but I don't see it as a promise they already made. They were always clear in their messaging on this part imo.