Nobody said user feedback wasn't being considered, though. Changes beyond what's outlined in the first post need to be discussed by the staff as a whole.
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|OT| topics will now go live on game launch date
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Nobody said user feedback wasn't being considered, though. Changes beyond what's outlined in the first post need to be discussed by the staff as a whole.
Devilgunman
Member
I understand this decission after seeing Smash got 17th OT even before the game is launched. That's shit ton of server load.
shinobi602
Member
Aeana, what avenues are feedback collected through though? I just mean I haven't seen places where the general community's opinions or views are taken into consideration via threads or polls or anything, at least in this specific decision.
Don't sweat it too much. There's a bit of leeway here, just like there always was.
People are making posts, and we read the posts. We're not going to do polls for policy, shinobi.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Smash was different due to the Picture Of The Day
None of those threads were OT threads, they were POTD threads. When the game came out in Japan the first of the 3 (so far) OT threads was made, while the POTD thread(s) were kept going as POTD will remain till WiiU launch (iirc)
Phantasmal Repose
Member
Sounds good. I never understood why they went up a week early anyway. Seems more reasonable to have it up on launch date.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
I prefer this approach. The more insular the communities become, the less I'm interested in posting in those threads. Too quickly hype threads become pointless and eventually toxic.
Destiny was a good example of a game that quickly spawned a lot of conflict on GAF between the kids in the hype club and those outside. It made the board unbearable for a week or two.
Destiny was a good example of a game that quickly spawned a lot of conflict on GAF between the kids in the hype club and those outside. It made the board unbearable for a week or two.
SirMossyBloke
Member
I feel it should be the day before. The day of its just going to be page after page of people saying "just picked it up, loving it so far" or people not posting at all because they're playing it.
autoduelist
Member
I... actually like OT first posts because they're so informative and I often check them before I preorder a game (for release day shipping). So I'll kind of miss them not being up early, but I understand the reasoning.
I really like the 24 hours (or better, 48) earlier suggestion though.
I really like the 24 hours (or better, 48) earlier suggestion though.
I personally don't think a day is long enough to hype a game that much but if the majority do, that's cool. I can deal with it either way, just thought I'd give some feedback.
Even though review threads are already widely considered cess-pools, I feel like the lack of an OT when a review thread goes up much earlier will collect much of what this change is supposedly cutting away.
We already saw this happen with The Last of Us last year, with its like... 2 week prior to release review embargo. The review thread was like a 2 week long OT before the OT.
Now that will happen with any game that has a review embargo up days before release. There will be spontaneous interim-OTs. The "hype" will manifest somewhere, it won't just disappear. At worst, it will derail other threads. We're gonna sit here and play whack-a-mole with hype trains, now?
We already saw this happen with The Last of Us last year, with its like... 2 week prior to release review embargo. The review thread was like a 2 week long OT before the OT.
Now that will happen with any game that has a review embargo up days before release. There will be spontaneous interim-OTs. The "hype" will manifest somewhere, it won't just disappear. At worst, it will derail other threads. We're gonna sit here and play whack-a-mole with hype trains, now?
Smiles and Cries
Member
I'm cool with this, waiting on that Sleeping Dogs OT
I can play it on PS4 in a few hours
I can play it on PS4 in a few hours
Gray Matter
Member
Yes. I think this destiny OT, the first one reached an absurd amount of pages before the game came out.
Although I think there should still be at least 1-3 days when the OT goes up.
Although I think there should still be at least 1-3 days when the OT goes up.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I wouldn't be surprised to see them do away with review threads at some point. They don't really serve any point that isn't also served by the OT, other than being a pre-release OT under the new rule.
They are also some of the worst examples of what I mentioned before, where communities form around a game before release, and review topics are often some of the most toxic and unwelcoming topics around unless you're in maximum hype mode like everyone else posting in them.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I agreed that Smash OT and POTD threads probably got shitload of server loads. However I would like to point out something. Those 17 threads aren't OT. It's for daily updates that Sakurai uploaded to his website for Smash Bros. Most of times, it contain a brand new information so I'm pretty sure that some people would be thrilled to see POTD threads came to end in couple of months.
VeryGooster
Banned
Just from my personal experience, I don't follow every game on the way, so to have an OT at least a week early gives me some idea and maybe some time to decide since there is (presumably) a large aggregate of information available.
I also don't mind the idea of OTs going up a day or two before release either. I see both sides though. I've had experiences in the past where I criticized a game and got a few upset reactions by it and I've seen it enough to never really want to post in OTs. Though I also see what people are saying in that people will just take the hype elsewhere. Then again I'm not really a "get hype!" kind of person so what do I know.
Velcro Fly
Member
Seems fair. Seeing OTs up a week in advance just makes me want the game more. Nothing real constructive there other than seeing reviews and such but there are often review threads anyway.
donutzsick
Member
I'm okay with this. I agree the 24 hour tweak is reasonable and goes a long way but I like the explanations given. Nirolak's post is helpful too
Lucent
Member
Yeah. But then we also get people who get the game early and come in saying "it's not all that great" or maybe some trolls that just do stuff to try to put the game in a bad light and stuff.
But anyway, I guess this is okay. It makes a lot of sense. I think that day before would be nice though for those midnight launches where people are on the edge of their seat waiting for the game to unlock or pick it up at a midnight launch.
EDIT: I guess if people constantly posting "almost there! Just 2 hours" and stuff counts towards why they don't want the OT before the day of, I guess nevermind. lol
neotokyo360
Member
Good.
I understand this.
I understand this.
Ken Masters
Banned
Good idea especially when some OT threads are damn near OT 2 when the game launches
This. Some of the circle jerking in OTs before a game hits gets out of hand imo.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Now you can decide from an aggregate of information from people that have actually played the game.
The only thing you miss out on is getting a game day one if you get it shipped to your house.
I agree, this is the primary function most OTs have for me. They usually contain good summaries of relevant information.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
That's cool with me.
Goodacre0081
Member
what about some Japanese titles that have 6+ month gaps? seeing as the forum is predominantly English speaking, you might want to consider that too.
Does that have an impact now? I agree with what you're saying and all, but I don't see how that's any different with this change.
I'll abide but I was actually glad the OTs were pre-release since they've reminded me of games I had forgotten about but was interested and when there was mixed information I had time to sort that out as well.
I have to ask, since OTs are to house discussion around a title does that mean that the review threads are now part of the OTs as it has been done on a smaller scale lately?
It just seems redundant to have two threads for the same game on the same day, specially when the content of one ends up spilling into the other.
I have to ask, since OTs are to house discussion around a title does that mean that the review threads are now part of the OTs as it has been done on a smaller scale lately?
It just seems redundant to have two threads for the same game on the same day, specially when the content of one ends up spilling into the other.
Yup. I was just thinking about this, and I think that when there's more than a month between releases it make sense to have a thread for each release "cluster." Some games take even longer than 6 months to localize, making the North American release feel like it calls for a LTTP thread if there's only one |OT| thread.
We have had and will continue to have separate threads for this. This has been the case this entire time and isn't changing.
Altered Juice
Member
im cool with that.
but i wonder which community's fault is this?
but i wonder which community's fault is this?
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