Askherserenity
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Love playing with mouse and keyboard on the PS4.
I wish more games let you do this...
I wish more games let you do this...
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Paragon Open Beta Thead | PC x PS4
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GuitarGuruu
Member
Why is no one playing this on GAF? 
MegaSackman
Member
Been playing a lot until No Man's Sky came out but I'm closer to a come back. I really love the new Grux skin, I'll like to get it but I've never spent a single cent in a moba game before and I'm not sure if I want to start now... I'll go back to the game, play a little while and I'll see if I'm still invested.
I have faith in Epic crew doing their best with the game, it's been improved every time imo.
I have faith in Epic crew doing their best with the game, it's been improved every time imo.
Melkezadek
Member
Why is no one playing this on GAF?
I'm playing! Only been doing co-op versus AI though.
Honestly I feel like "MOBA" scares everyone off. With it being free, everyone should at least try it. It's really fun.
Why is no one playing this on GAF?
I've been playing!
Methane47 feel free to add me
CommandThrower
Member
Played a bunch of co-op vs AI yesterday, and the game is pretty fun. I'm just trying to get enough reputation/money for card packs, because I've got some deck ideas.
Games still take way too long for my liking, but I'm glad I decided to give this a try.
Games still take way too long for my liking, but I'm glad I decided to give this a try.
I saw someone open up 20 packs yesterday hoping for a minor guard.
whomp. whomp.
It's really hard for new players to build a deck sometimes and even the more seasoned ones can be put in bad spots. Hope something is sorted quickly. Maybe slightly improved starter decks?
New hero reveal tomorrow.
whomp. whomp.
It's really hard for new players to build a deck sometimes and even the more seasoned ones can be put in bad spots. Hope something is sorted quickly. Maybe slightly improved starter decks?
New hero reveal tomorrow.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
They teased him during the live stream yesterday. The dude is Shrek with drums
jackissocool
Member
I just accidentally deleted the game from my PS4 when I was about to party up for the first time after the beta opened. Now I don't get to play tonight. Fuck.
Demoskinos
Member
Really loving Steel. Just got a pretty satisfying Double kill with him tonight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=mRTAkh_R9PI
Iggy no! Nice drunk.
I'm going to miss Iggy when he gets nerfed into the ground. Tanking and lane pushing is what the duo do. I don't have tainted magic and the other cards that would let me do real damage. It was end game and we still had all our T1 towers. Don't nerf Iggy!
Until then. I did a thing.
Lane pushing coming along. I changed my mind like 100 times in the run-up to my first fight, but I decided I could take on two with how I was built, my CXP/XP lead and how they were built.
I would not have engaged had I noticed the TwinBlast in my minimap.
Demoskinos
Member
Oh man tank iggy. Did you spec exclusively into health? Cause goddamn.
CommandThrower
Member
The folks at Epic Games revealed their latest hero: Narbash, the support drummer!
The update page lists him as a physical damage "Support Caster" with an affinity to green and white cards. I want to see if I can build this guy as a bruiser; tanky DPS. He has a stun projectile, two auras(one movement speed, one health regen), and his ult causes an AOE slow followed by a knockup.
Narbash comes out on August 23rd. I look forward to playing him!
The update page lists him as a physical damage "Support Caster" with an affinity to green and white cards. I want to see if I can build this guy as a bruiser; tanky DPS. He has a stun projectile, two auras(one movement speed, one health regen), and his ult causes an AOE slow followed by a knockup.
Narbash comes out on August 23rd. I look forward to playing him!
nicholasbrutal
Epic Games PR Manager
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Loving it, I have a feeling he's from the same homeworld as Greystone....got them Warhammer vibes about them.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
It's a moba that needs more power than a potato to run, im sure it'll become more popular when hardware gets cheaper.
As for the ps4 crowd. It's more popular than Smite on twitch at least.
1) Health
2) Armor - I had well over 200 phys armor during that fight and iirc their phys damage characters had almost no penetration. I could see pen getting a buff in the near future. Building the right amount of pen is tricky.
3) Mana
4) Wards
Almost all of my 5 kills were from using myself as bait and ganking a ganker. The rest were from warding their Jungle and ganking their Junglers. When in teammfights I tried not to take kills because CXP/XP come very easy for Iggy.
Narbash looks like a great support character. Cert should have fun if he does that hero race, but the times when he is forced to solo queue might be rough.
I have no idea what to think of this game after a day of the beta, definitately the direction I want mobas to go, more action oriented, and definitely an improvement to Monday Night Combat and probably Battleborn, but at the same time the controls still feels janky like it's still a random Unreal Mod somebody made.
Anyone have a good site or something for information on this game, things like recommended build order, if I should upgrade vs buy new item and all this shit there's literally no wording on.
Anyone have a good site or something for information on this game, things like recommended build order, if I should upgrade vs buy new item and all this shit there's literally no wording on.
PaulKersey
Member
Yeah, Narbash looks awesome. Probably going to end up playing him heavily, depending on how I take to him. I love playing support, but I don't like Muriel.
Did they do something about the amount of time each match takes to end? I been playing and average times seem to be 30 mins at the min unless the team matchup is completely one-sided. 30 mins min for a match is too damn long, many of these take 50 mins and more. It is the only downside of this game for me right now.
Also not sure if I like the way they changed Sparrow from her original
Also not sure if I like the way they changed Sparrow from her original
PC or PS4? Turning up the sensitivity on PS4 made a big difference for me. I'll still be setting up my mouse when I have the time.
The Paragon Reddit is a decent resource. We also try to help around here, but not sure if any of us are Platinum or anything like that.
As a rule of thumb you want to try and build items completely early. A 6 point completed item give you more bonuses and a power spike compared to spreading those points out. Some cards like 'Offensive Maneuvers' can get around that. I tend to grab my ward very early and I don't have the cards for 6 point items anyway.
From what I've seen the consensus is that matches are too long right now and that's due to a combination of the health/armor meta and travel speed.
Travel speed changes will change the game so much that it's still hard to get a feel for where it's headed. Having lots of fun. The hero race next week means free card packs for everybody.
PedroLumpy
Member
Sooo, I was about to give it a try, and it said it was going to take 5 minutes to find a match. Are there some matchmaking settings I should be tweaking?
Finaika
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CommandThrower
Member
I've been playing this a bunch this week, and I'm liking it. I've already got a handful of heroes that I'm leveling up in order to get all their rewards, but right now I'm strictly playing co-op vs AI. I don't feel up to playing real versus.
So far, I really like Sevarog, The Fey, Iggy & Scorch and Feng Mao. I've already got a decent amount of cards so that I can make good decks for a couple of heroes, but I'm wanting a card crafting system. Some of the cards I've been eyeing have really been eluding me, and they're not even "rare" class cards.
So far, I really like Sevarog, The Fey, Iggy & Scorch and Feng Mao. I've already got a decent amount of cards so that I can make good decks for a couple of heroes, but I'm wanting a card crafting system. Some of the cards I've been eyeing have really been eluding me, and they're not even "rare" class cards.
valkillmore
Member
Is it just me or is it strange that there is only one map? My first MOBA.
Also, I find the card system very confusing.
Also, I find the card system very confusing.
Stabattack
Member
Watch the in game tutorial videos and play several bot matches before going PvP.
Stabattack
Member
One map per MOBA is pretty standard, though they said they were open to the idea of more maps in the future.
I found the card system confusing at first as well. All the placeholder art kinda contributed to the confusion i thought. I just suggest you stick with the recommended cards until you grasp it all.
MarineMountie
Member
1 map is normal for a MOBA. If you think about it, any other map that is made will play the exact same way as Agora, so resources and time are better used making the game better balance wise and adding content.
I expect another map down the road, but it will be awhile.
MarineMountie
Member
Anyone else really looking forward to the removal of travel mode? I can't wait. The matches take too long because it takes 5 to 6 seconds to run from lane to lane. That isn't how its supposed to be. Removal of travel mode will force people to lane. No more 5 man gank squads leaving two lanes empty at a time, and still having time to get to the empty lanes to punish the opponent for doing his job of laning.
I don't think the removal will be in the next patch, but hopefully the one after.
I don't think the removal will be in the next patch, but hopefully the one after.
Melkezadek
Member
I would stick with Co-op versus AI until you get a feel for things. There is a Solo mode where you can try out the different heroes to see which playstyle is best for you. They also have gameplay videos for each hero to get a better understanding of their role/what their powers do.
For in game advice, remember that dying only serves to level the opposing team, so if you feel you won't survive a skirmish, there is no shame in running away. Don't risk dying to score a kill - forcing them to retreat can be just as effective. Remember that the goal of the game is to push forward to their core by destroying the towers, not to get the most kills.
Speaking of towers, remember not to attack an enemy player while there are on a tower platform. The laser beam will ignore your minions and target you, resulting in a very swift death. It can be easy to panic and try to fight then if they try to engage you while you're at a tower, but it's best to back down and at least take the fight away from the platform, as the tower will kill you pretty quickly.
Pay attention to your map, also. It will show you where the enemy players are and where your teammates are. Sometimes enemy players will try to sneak past your group and attack unguarded towers. If you're not careful, your team can end up on the defense pretty quickly if you allow too many to fall. And once again remember, getting the kill isn't always important. Sometimes simply acting as a deterrent can be just as effective. They don't want to die just as much as you don't.
And finally, remember to have fun! Hope to see you in game.
Most of the people that went to the Epic event left very happy with where the game is headed. Naturally they would be happy with a free trip, but it's hard not to read the enthusiasm they came away with.
If you have any specific questions feel free to ask. It took me a bit to get used to as well.
You can use mouse and keyboard on PS4 @_@
Also, build wards. Wards are great.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Play Co-Op mostly, learn map lanes, jungle route
AI co-op isn't just simpleton bots, they do put up effort, they will try to gank or combo their ultimates
Just pick a Hero, watch their tutorial, use one of the 2-4 decks premade and go at it
Card system is easy, it looks crazy, but once you get the hang of it, you really chase after crazy builds
Case in point
You can get a max of 60 Card XP aka CXP
That yellow meter with a number fills up is that, you collect ember (yellow balls) from minions, Hero enemies, destroying towers, putting up harvesters, killing jungle minions, destroying enemy harvesters
You have 6 slots, 2 passive, 4 active
You can have a deck be all Passive and slot them in
Passive is just the ability once unlocked on card no more need to worry about, while active, there's a cool down for where you put the card to reap its full benefit
At the start its how your play style meshes with your Hero and how fast you earn ember
For example say My Murdock
I start out with
1 Healing Potion (2 uses), 1 Mana Potion (2 uses), 1 Token Cast (+6.5 Energy Damage)
Now I want to earn 6 CXP, ASAP
Cause I can equip Meltdown card (3points) with it 3 cards that are 1 point each
Why?, now I have a full card and its extra bonus bestowed upon me
Then I repeat again for 6 CXP, ASAP for Micro Nuke card (3Points) and 3 1 point cards
So within say 5 minutes I have 2 cards already fully completed, pushes up my power damage + bonuses from completing 2 cards
Once I start getting higher CXP, those 6 point cards get replaced with better cards with bonuses or points adjusted to push my bonus or stats higher
Before I had to wait for fucking ever to reach 12CXP to get 1 card done
3 for the card, and 3 points each into the slot
Yes, I did become more powerful, but I gave up huge time and effort for 1 bonus, while others had 2 bonuses going and starting their 3rd while I just started my 2nd
So you want to build a deck that fits that Hero and what you want most out of it
Yes RNG and accumulating the amount say the pros have will take time and luck
Some of the starter decks and intermediate decks already pre-made can be trial and error to what to put in points into first and slot in
My Murdock from earlier with his first 12CXP, has Energy Damage, Crit+, and free bonus of ATK speed from the cards
Deck building is fun, I'm struggling to get certain Heroes and their decks just right
Say Gadget, I go MP, Cooldown Reduction, Health
With her I can stay out on the map forever, takes awhile to burn through 1400MP
Great tips all around.
Also if someone does really well and you want to know how just watch the replay. Even buzzing through it in fast forward will give you an idea of what you should be doing.
I had no clue how important last hits and killing jungle creeps was until I watched a replay to figure out why I was falling so far behind in CXP.
Also if someone does really well and you want to know how just watch the replay. Even buzzing through it in fast forward will give you an idea of what you should be doing.
I had no clue how important last hits and killing jungle creeps was until I watched a replay to figure out why I was falling so far behind in CXP.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Yeah don't spam your basic attack, your wasting time/effort accumulating CXP
Hit your basic attack at the cusp of minions almost dying and net you the kill
Takes practice and adjusting to it
Many players in Co-Op spam their basic attack and you see little ember orbs on the field, they don't even pick them up sometimes
Also Jungle minions go up in level too
Used to be level 5, now they go up to 3
Higher their level, more CXP netted. More health and hit a little harder.
If your a jungler say a Khaimera, Rampage, Grux you want to farm each side and help the lane that can use some push back
If you're a Caster/Ranger, by mid point to late game, most Junglers are close to maxed out, then you can swoop in quickly and pump up some CXP quickly to boost yourself
cripterion
Member
Putting the game on Steam would do wonders for this game.
MarineMountie
Member
I got an AFK warning after a game because I lost internet halfway through, but rejoined the match 1 minute later. I was out for 1 minute, rejoined, and got a warning. Hoping that's just a bug.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
I reckon a slow to travel mode of around 20% whilst in the Jungle and in the transition lane would fix the overly eager gank squad appeal with 4 fighter meta.... the animation could change to a predatory jog of sorts: what you guys think?
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
I was hoping to see a slight nerf to armor or maybe a damage buff to make ADC viable again.....we get tower health nerfs so 4-5 fighter meta ball can steam roll them with black buff.....nice work Epic lol.