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People believe the earth is flat
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Ooh. Sorry, I must've not gotten the memo.
Nobody knows. With the Antarctic Treaty of Antarctic Treaty 1959 Antarctic became highly guarded by government officials. Antarctica is officially off limits to civilians.
That bridge is only 2 miles. According to people here, 2 miles is not significant enough given the overall size of the earth. Why would they need to take that into account?
I know a few people who are buying into the flat world crap. Part of the problem is it's really easy to find a lot of videos supporting such nonsense, but it seems far harder to find really good videos debunking all the various flat earth claims.
It basically comes down to not understanding. I know one person and he kept saying that, "well you never know, technology changes all the time, maybe one day it will get better and tell us the earth is a different shape".
I honestly didn't know what he meant by that. Can you create a camera that can better tell you that the earth is round?
Anyway, here's a video you can show them.
https://youtu.be/VNqNnUJVcVs
No problem.
This is true. Many debunkers also fail to see the flat earther arguments and logic as is. The Vsauce video is good, but it builds its argument around how gravity would work on a flat earth. The problem is that quite a few flat earthers seem to believe that gravity isn't real. How do you counter that?
I really do watch a lot of flat earth and other crap "science" videos. It's always fun to find where the problems in the video are, and you can usually find them when the narrator says: "on a round earth we should see..." and "we could only see this if the world is flat"
One way to help them "visualise" that the center of gravity is at the center of an object is by showing them this little trick or having them do it themselves.
https://youtu.be/jIMihpDmBpY?t=103
You can also show them this video below to help them "visualise" how mass distorts time and space and how 2 huge mass objects attract and orbit around each other. they have to keep in mind that this is a 3 dimensional depiction and it's just a visualisation. Of course the physics are a bit different in space.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTY1Kje0yLg
WeAreStarStuff
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I don't think anyone actually thinks the Earth is flat; I think people are just trolling for fun. I can easily look at other planets in our solar system with my telescope....and they are all round. Unless I'm somehow complicit in this conspiracy.
BearFlexington
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The real story is how sanctimonious people can be with something like this and yet continue to humor theism.
There are true believers for everything. I bet most people are just trolling but not everyone.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Yeah. Like, is it really that hard to believe that you were wrong?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
That, and it's fun to come up with semi-plausible explanations for a wacky preposition. Imagine Calvin's dad (of Calvin and Hobbes), but with more scientific knowledge. It's that mindset.
Speaking about editors of that Flat Earth Society website of course.
Arkos
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Not quite the same though.
One is blind faith.
The other is believing in some utter bullshit despite tons of scientific evidence that says otherwise, because conspiracy.
Ok, they are kind of similar.
http://www.n2yo.com/space-station/
Live feed of the earth from the International Space Station. Pretty beautiful stream in HD, I'm gonna watch it pass over North America over the next few minutes.
Live feed of the earth from the International Space Station. Pretty beautiful stream in HD, I'm gonna watch it pass over North America over the next few minutes.
TAJ
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Chmpocalypse
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Agreed. Just a difference in degree, not in kind.
This must have been last night. Man I would have DIED laughing if I saw that.
In the flat earth model, the world is an infinite plane of howling winds and ice, with the Earth (and maybe other inhabited realms?) as a "hole" in the ice under a rotating sun.
An infinite plane of finite thickness has gravity acting "downward"
http://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/a/12443
In this model, the plane of the world would be as thick as the radius of the earth, and there should be a "flip side" to the cosmos, which is completely bisected by the world.
Interestingly, gravity would not reduce with altitude, as it does for "point source" gravity wells.
They are flat disc...why do you think you only see one face of the moon ?
No it isn't
https://oceanwide-expeditions.com/antarctica?gclid=CKbZ5OiQqs0CFYeSvQod4mkOBg
This is just one of many websites offering vacation packages to Antarctica.
The guy who threw the propane was pro-round.
So, the flat earther was the level headed one in the conversation.
Correct.
Who said that?
not much, because it's slight
large earthquakes have been known to change the length of earth's day slightly because they redistribute mass a little bit
For example:
His calculations indicate that by changing the distribution of Earth's mass, the Japanese earthquake should have caused Earth to rotate a bit faster, shortening the length of the day by about 1.8 microseconds (a microsecond is one millionth of a second).
The calculations also show the Japan quake should have shifted the position of Earth's figure axis (the axis about which Earth's mass is balanced) by about 17 centimeters (6.5 inches), towards 133 degrees east longitude. Earth's figure axis should not be confused with its north-south axis; they are offset by about 10 meters (about 33 feet).
Birds fly because their wings generate lift, which is a physical force exerted by the surrounding air in a direction perpendicular to that of the wing's surface.
Think about it this way. You on a bus at merely 80 miles an hour at constant speed and your standing. What happens if the driver puts on the brakes, even slightly?
I think you meant Lift not lift. You know ...
You're trolling, right?
If someone took you out into space to see Earth itself how would you feel when (hypothetically) you found out it was round?
Edit: this reply was meant for
If the driver puts on the breaks so that it reduces the speed by less than a millionth of a percent practically speaking nothing happens. You most certainly wouldn't feel anything.
I'm probably being trolled but oh well.
SaganIsGOAT
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Hey caffeware what do you make of all those YouTube videos from every day people like yourself sending go pros high into the atmosphere that show the earth is round? Why don't you do that yourself? Oh wait, you'd rather live in a world of illusion I'm guessing. Remember everyone, people CANT be talked out of illusions. We would have to strap caffeware to a weather balloon so he could witness first hand the glory of our round planet. Or we could hold his hand, have him keep his eyes on a compass due west and walk around the planet in a straight line back to where we started. Idk but cmon dude you're acting a fool
God Dayumm
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But you cannot set foot on the land, can you? It's just a cruise. I would like to make a life goal of setting foot in all 7 continents but this is the only thing that is stopping me.
EDIT: Ok it seems there are expeditions on land!
the-pi-guy
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Both are pretty incredible, but we have substantial evidence for one.
We'll see how things end up working out.
There's still lots of things that we are still trying to figure out. Lots of things that we can't see because of our telescopes, etc.
Gravity attracts objects, in Newtonian Physics, the force equivalent to it is a well recognized equation.
The reason that birds fly is because of lift. We can compare this to buoyancy in water, even though the mechanisms are different due to the properties of the fluid.
Basically if the force pushing you up is greater than the force pushing you down, you go up.
Completely depends on how greatly he pushes down on it.
If it's small enough, I won't notice and neither will you.
Wut?
It'd be more like being on a jet, and the pilot decreased speed from 535 mph down to 534 mph. Except, percentage wise, even that'd be a greater decrease in speed than what the earth has experienced.
You wouldn't notice either one.
Go pros cameras have fish eye-lenses. You can see curvature from the beginning of the video with that camera.
Look at this on the other hand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KBpxyyaZk
You probably can go to the rim, but can you go far enough?
Who was the first man to circumnavigate the earth from pole to pole?
So birds can overcome the same force that keeps skyscraper 'upside down'?
Gravity sure is selective.
Agree.
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Now, how about nasa take those telescopes that they use to see distant planets million of light years away, and shows us the remaining equipment of the Apollo missions on the moon?
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Nasa sure loves their cartoons.
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caffeware got good game
You can use the shotgun argument style to argue anything stupid and look like you're standing your ground if not winning. This is the foundation of creationism.
BearFlexington
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Michael F. Assbender
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What does anyone have to gain by lying about this? It's fucking stupid.
AuthenticM
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maquiladora
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Caffeware's trolling is pretty good.
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the-pi-guy
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That's not how it works at all. There is no upside-down. Down is in whatever direction gravity is pulling in. The reason this seems counter-intuitive is because we deal with things on a very small scale. So it's understandable.So birds can overcome the same force that keeps skyscraper 'upside down'?
Gravity sure is selective.
Gravity is what gives things weight. It's why you can step on a scale, and get some sort of measurement. This is because you are being pulled onto the scale, and the scale is pushing back on you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment
How do you explain the stars? People have spent 1000's of years watching the stars, tracking them, etc. The only explanation for the location of the stars is that the Earth is spherical.
Chmpocalypse
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You're not actually stupid enough to believe the Earth is flat, right?
To tell you the truth, I never heard of this guy.
To me the experiment seems bizzare anyway. How is it possible to do such an experiment in your backyard, like he supposedly did? Won't you need to be in a vacuum to measure such things?
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why not both?
the-pi-guy
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Oh, you mean propaganda dishes?
They're not real, they're holograms. It's time to wake up sheeple!
The Real Abed
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I have no answer to that.
Like this one?
Or this one?
Or this one?
Or this one?
Google "real satellites from space."
There's supposed to be 1,500 - 20,000 satellites in orbit, yet one of the pictures the Deathstar!
Most of this things are supposed to be in low orbit, yet all the pics we get are far from earth.
If the mars-rover can take a selfie, why can't a satellite do the same?
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