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PlayStation Suite announced - PlayStation game framework for Android
- Thread starter gofreak
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Important note from the Engadget Jack Tretton interview - Suite will allow non-game apps.
He also seemed to suggest PS3 would play Suite apps, but that seemed to be 'instantly refuted' so I wouldn't take it as gospel.
He also seemed to suggest PS3 would play Suite apps, but that seemed to be 'instantly refuted' so I wouldn't take it as gospel.
chubigans said:
It sort of gets touched on in the interview, they asked a question that I think was intended to prod along those lines. He said that touch wouldn't necessarily be standard. If there's a way for devs to flag what games work fine with just sticks and buttons, that stuff could be exposed on PS3 I guess.
I would take it with a grain of salt though. He seemed very uncertain after the fact, the PR person said they would check and get back to them so...we'll see.
Engadget interview confirms the PS Suite will also offer non gaming apps, this could potentially be the appstore for PSP2 as well as it working on other android devices.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/engadget-interview-sceas-jack-tretton-talks-sony-ngp-announce/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/engadget-interview-sceas-jack-tretton-talks-sony-ngp-announce/
I thought these phones were upgradable? Like, I could download the 2.3 version when it came out? I guess I'm not too savvy when it come to phones... So, I would have to get a new fucking phone if I wanted all (I use "all" here to smash a point home) of these games? God damn you, technology.canova said:
PistolGrip
sex vacation in Guam
SONY will most likely make this the steam of Cell Phones. Offer other PS like features (trophy, chat, cross-platform play with NPG/PS3, mulpliplayer infrastructure and hosting), better libraries especially for multi-core android phones of the future.
AranhaHunter
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I was thinking about this and. if I'm understanding this right, this is the biggest thing to come out of this conference for Sony. Playstation Suite could be a cash cow for them if done right. Android's stigma is that it has no games and that it's not comparable to iphone/ipad in that regard. Playstation Suite fixes that stigma almost overnight, not only will it play PS1 games, but fully expect it to play PSP1 games as well as original content after it launches. If the dev kits are easy to code, cheap and accessible like the iOS dev kit, then there will be lots of indie developers doing games and non game apps. I'm guessing here, but I think Sony will probably make around 30% royalty fee on every game sold on it. On top of that, hardware manufactures that want access to the app must pay royalties to Sony.
rollingstart
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Jinfash said:
I took the on screen buttons to mean it will work with other devices. At least from my point of view, it is redundant to have a touch screen d-pad/buttons when you have physical ones on both the play and NGP.
UraMallas said:
Just because your phone can run 2.3 does not mean that you can get this. Your phone will need to be Playstation Certified, i.e. licenced by Sony. The Playstation Suite store is not going to be something anybody can just download.
Jinfash said:
Read the OP:
Sony Ericsson are just going to have the flagship device, but it will be open to other manufacturers. The ironic thing is that we thought the Xperia Play signalled the start of closer integration between SE and SCE, in fact it looks like we could soon see "Playstation phones" from HTC, Samsung, LG, etc.
Gameboy415
Member
As much as I love my Samsung Epic, I REALLY hope it gets updated soon so I can get in on the Playstation stuff. They haven't even released an official 2.2 update yet!
But considering the amount of advertising for the Epic on the PS3's Playstation Store, I'm optimistic.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
The Friendly Monster said:
if this takes off, it'll be on it sooner than later.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Einbroch said:
there's plenty of android phones more powerful than the iPhone.
brotkasten
Member
That wouldn't be much better than the Android market right now. There has to be some sort of minimum hardware requirement, even if Sony didn't announced it yet (maybe at MWC in few weeks).canova said:
Jinfash said:
The bit about logo licensing seems relevant here, that almost has to refer to non-Sony device manufacturers. And if your smartphone doesn't carry the logo, don't expect it to work well, or at all.brotkasten said:
... indeed, if it's really just a cert process, you might even be able to download PS store and games onto a phone where nothing really works. After a few bold warning messages, of course.
Basileus777
Member
Seeing as how the NGP OS is not based on Android, what's the most likely method they are using to run Android software?
charlequin
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Basileus777 said:
Probably it runs on an emulator on NGP.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
Dalvik VM
RIM is thinking about using it in future BlackBerry devices as well so they can make use of the Android Market.
RIM is thinking about using it in future BlackBerry devices as well so they can make use of the Android Market.
bdizzle said:
Yeah, but Steam is basically a store with some integrated social and chat stuff built in, it's not a toolchain for cross-hardware development per say, which is what it seems Sony is trying to offer here. I'm not sure Steam simply showing up buys it anything since it doesn't give devs a standard builder interface to use, which is more important on these various phone implementations than on a Windows PC.
Rolf NB said:
Yes, Hirai talked about licensing logos and buttons to manufacturers, and in the Impress Watch interview he was quite explicit about them having a open stance on this. It's definitely open to non-Sony manufacturers.
I find it funny how our understanding of this has gone 180 - before the announcement this seemed perhaps like something being done to humour Sony or SE. Now it seems like SE is 'just another licensee' to SCE, one part of a potentially much bigger picture. Although, they are of course important in that they'll probably lead with some exemplar devices that other manufacturers will watch closely.
new(?) interview with Hirai on this initiative
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/29/hirai_on_pss/
As Sony hopes to make use of the millions of Android compatible sets throughout the world, they're not doing such things as selecting partners and the like. "We have a completely open stance," said Hirai. "With carriers and with hand set makers."
Sony's openness with PSS appears to extend even beyond Android. "There are a variety of OSes," said Hirai. "But we're focusing first on Android. There's also Windows, iOS and so forth, but we don't have the resources to make it compatible with everything from the start."
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/29/hirai_on_pss/
As Sony hopes to make use of the millions of Android compatible sets throughout the world, they're not doing such things as selecting partners and the like. "We have a completely open stance," said Hirai. "With carriers and with hand set makers."
Sony's openness with PSS appears to extend even beyond Android. "There are a variety of OSes," said Hirai. "But we're focusing first on Android. There's also Windows, iOS and so forth, but we don't have the resources to make it compatible with everything from the start."
CrayzeeCarl
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woahjiggle said:
Nuclear Muffin
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jiggle said:
Ohohoho! Now it's getting really interesting! Really does feel like Sony is going 3rd party with this!
I wonder if PC support isn't out of the question?
AranhaHunter
Banned
Nuclear Muffin said:
That doesn't feel like going 3rd party at all, feels like an extremely smart strategy. Wow hats off to Sony for that, if it's like this across the whole company and not just SNE, then that'll really bode well for Qriocity service.
And yes I'm pretty sure he means PC when he says Windows.
Square Triangle
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How will this work? Google took down the Kongregate app, even though it is back up now.