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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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Seriously.
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You really gonna go to bat for a technicality of calling for her to step down vs firing her?
cartoon_soldier
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Nobody asked Pelosi's team to add Stand with Nancy to attacks on Trumpcare.
I am saying Dems should project a new face for the leadership for 2018. How is that firing her or asking her to step aside?
Clearly she needs to not be speaker anymore because of a tweet.
It doesn't matter who becomes the next Dem Speaker. They'll get tarred and feathered by the GOP all the same. They could literally bring in a ham sandwich as the next speaker and it would trigger Republicans something fierce.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I mean, I understand that part of it. I just don't get why she can't say, "Hey--this is more important right now." The attacks aren't going to cause her to be removed instantly. That would take months.
Spoiled Milk
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You're looking at this completely backwards right now. She's become the punching bag for a coup. She wants to defend herself because she's been around long enough to know she doesn't deserve to lie down and take it.
Goddamn, I'm getting triggered by Diablos, Cartoon Soldier, and Plinko all at the same time.
cartoon_soldier
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She defended herself, today morning. She gave a speech, great.
Stand with Nancy ain't gonna win you the house in 2018.
My issue is attack the Senate bill right now, forget defending your place as the dem leader.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Me? I like Pelosi! I was just curious about the timing. Seems odd to me is all. I get the reason behind the push, just don't get the timing of it when the AHCA is about to destroy healthcare.
Also, why lump me in with anyone? I thought Ossoff was going to win and I predict a 2018 blue wave. Enough of this "He's always pessimistic!!!" garbage.
balladofwindfishes
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Friendly reminder 70 million people might be without insurance in ten years so there might be something kind of more important than some lady whose still going to be doing her job until she dies
metalslimer
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It's so fucking tiring.
"I think people are confusing Twitter for the democratic primary electorate."
100% spot on
Also this ^
100% spot on
Also this ^
nintendoman58
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Is this a gradual thing? Or does everybody's insurance get taken away at once?
Gradual, it gets worse each year starting in 2021
balladofwindfishes
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Gradual, but Medicaid is effectively being phased out
Aaron Strife
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Obama will be campaigning with Northam.
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017...lph-Northam-D?_=2017-06-22T13:43:01.509-07:00
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017...lph-Northam-D?_=2017-06-22T13:43:01.509-07:00
Medicaid repeal goes over 7 years iirc.
All the same the market isn't going to suddenly go "Oh yeah no you're fine right now." Healthcare market forces are going to react violently to things going sideways, things are going to be bad regardless earlier than whatever timeline they put out there.
Macho Madness
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The refusal to defend the ACA is another point showing that private insurance companies have no business in the majority of anyone's health care.
balladofwindfishes
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It's crappy too, because the CBO estimate for how many people will lose insurance likely won't consider that Medicaid will be bankrupt in 2030 from cuts and tying the cost increases to inflation (which is comedy, since healthcare increases several times faster than inflation)
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Is that the first time he has campaigned for anyone this year?
Actually, I would not be all that surprised if it does run the numbers on Medicaid solvency.
Obama's still local to DC cause of school, so this is an easy one to do.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if he campaigns for Murphy in NJ either.
Futurevoid
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Democrats have a 17 point edge on Healthcare over the GOP.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/poll-democrats-lead-health-care-gop-economy-n775706
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/poll-democrats-lead-health-care-gop-economy-n775706
balladofwindfishes
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I thought it'd be outside the scope of time for the estimate?
Roland_Gunner
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Democrats have a 17 point edge on Healthcare over the GOP.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/poll-democrats-lead-health-care-gop-economy-n775706
The GOP having a seven point lead in dealing with the economy after the Great Recession makes me want to bang my head bloody.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I thought it looked at a 10 year period. I guess if it failed in 2030 that would not be in the purview.
Even a lot of Democrats fall for the "TRUMP IS A BUSINESSMAN AND CAN FIX THE ECONOMY" shit.
Called my shitty senators from KS
I fucking love how Roberts was here not a month ago telling his constituents that single payer and Medicare for all was on the table, and he supports this fucking travesty.
What a joke they all are.
Moran has no opinion yet, but his aide told me he is reading it very carefully!
I fucking love how Roberts was here not a month ago telling his constituents that single payer and Medicare for all was on the table, and he supports this fucking travesty.
What a joke they all are.
Moran has no opinion yet, but his aide told me he is reading it very carefully!
LostMyNarbles
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The fuck is up with the results of taxes and everything below it.Democrats have a 17 point edge on Healthcare over the GOP.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/poll-democrats-lead-health-care-gop-economy-n775706
Aaron Strife
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I think most voters when they hear "economy" think "tax cuts durrhurr"
Democrats have a 17 point edge on Healthcare over the GOP.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/poll-democrats-lead-health-care-gop-economy-n775706
Lol, americans are so stupid that they don't link dealing with taxes with looking out for the middle class.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Democrats have a 17 point edge on Healthcare over the GOP.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/poll-democrats-lead-health-care-gop-economy-n775706
Democrats are also now +8 in preference of who controls Congress. That's good news.
As for this list, it shows democrats have a long way to go on economy and taxes. The sad thing is they have all the ammunition they need. Just use it. Get mean and nasty and turn it around on the republicans.
Emerson
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Probably because cable news media does nothing but fearmonger, turning every single minor incident into practically something of 9/11 scale coverage-wise, and your average American thinks the world is getting more dangerous by the day when the exact opposite is true.
Today's when a bunch of House reps went to the media and said they don't trust Pelosi. Maybe blame them?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Wasn't around much this morning so I missed it and didn't see it when I got back. Notice how in my posts I wasn't "blaming" anyone. I didn't think it was her--just mentioned that she could defuse it by focusing attention where it needed to be.
ArkhamFantasy
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You'd think the reddest states having shitty economies that are almost directly linked to tax cuts for the wealthy would give voters a hint about how viable their economic policies are.
whyamihere
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So I'm crunching some numbers, and since 2012, the Democrats who has run statewide and done best in Paul Ryan's WI-1 is...
Tammy Baldwin!
Baldwin 12: -4.05%
Obama 12: -4.21%
Clinton 16: -10.38%
Burke 14: -17.52%
Tammy Baldwin!
Baldwin 12: -4.05%
Obama 12: -4.21%
Clinton 16: -10.38%
Burke 14: -17.52%
Slackerish
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Guess we'll see what happens as Dems have both lost & gained seats when in the positive.
That tweet is kinda stupid as it totally disregards the environment in which those polls were made which will really affect the election as it is more than one year away.
The 2006 cycle was after the 2004 loss and Bush kinda starting to become a drag for the general american.
The 2010 cycle was after 2008 which started a slow ecconomical recuperation after the great recession and the birth of the Tea party (after the grace period).
Also the 2010 cycle came after two really positive election runs which gave supermajorities in both chambers which, of course, means that a weaker cycle makes a bigger lose.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Err, why not?
Nothing to see here!
whyamihere
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This is the right thing to do IMO.
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