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[HaRyu]

Ugh, the guy turns off the PS3 with the switch in the back...WHY?

If you were selling USB dongles at about $150 a pop, you'd probably care less about breaking your PS3 too. :lol

 

[BoboBrazil]

yes an external would be slower than the internal SATA connection

Ok cool, would an external still be faster than reading off a disc?

 

[cyberheater]

I would assume a external would be slower, as it would be bottlenecked at USB 2.0 speeds.

USB 2.0 transfer rate is a lot faster then a hard drive. It's a none issue.

EDIT: Seems I was wrong. At least it should be fast then a BD drive at least anyway.

 

[CaseyTappy]

So , does this mean we get Other OS back Sony ??

 

[Tensai]

USB 2.0 transfer rate is a lot faster then a hard drive. It's a none issue.

30MBps is the highest transfer rate you'll see on an external hardrive. Internal harddrives can go at up to 120MBps and SSDs can reach mutiples of that.

 

[Platy]

hey dudes. I heard usb ports are removed on new update. Sony shit themselves on the foot this time.

I totaly saw the ps3 updating ... and then suddenly the usb port EXPLODES xD

 

[Dead Man]

Mod to let me play Blu-Rays from any region, please.

That and PS2 games are the only things I would want, and both are about as likely as each other, I think.

 

[AndyD]

When loading PS3 games there shouldn't be very much difference.

Right. But getting an external with more cache may actually speed things up a touch. Shaving off a second here and there on load intensive games can be dramatic.

I would love to plug up a TB external and dump my PS3 collection to it.

 

[SolidSnakex]

So , does this mean we get Other OS back Sony ??

No, but you can probably look forward to them fixing this problem in a way that makes people complain and file lawsuits against them.

 

[Visualante]

So , does this mean we get Other OS back Sony ??

No don't be stupid.

 

[JADS]

USB 2.0 transfer rate is a lot faster then a hard drive. It's a none issue.

No it isn't. USB 2.0 is 480 Mbits at optimal conditions that you almost will never reach, SATA 1.5 Gbit/s and that is the lowest variant possible

 

[mclem]

So here's a curious question. I didn't have much experience with the PS3 side of things when I worked in development, but I had used 360 dev a lot and knew my way around it, and one big question just sprung to mind which might make this a whole lot messier:

Is there a PS3 equivalent to PartnerNet?

 

[cyberheater]

30MBps is the highest transfer rate you'll see on an external hardrive. Internal harddrives can go at up to 120MBps and SSDs can reach mutiples of that.

Jeez. I wonder how fast games would load from a fast SSD. That would be amazing to see.

 

[demosthenes]

No, but you can probably look forward to them fixing this problem in a way that makes people complain and file lawsuits against them.

This, why I'm not excited about this at all.

I can't wait for threads of people that bought this and some how end up getting a bricked system.

Jeez. I wonder how fast games would load from a fast SSD. That would be amazing to see.

Go on youtube and watch demos.

 

[Ephemeris]

Interesting.

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

No it isn't. USB 2.0 is 480 Mbits at optimal conditions that you almost will never reach, SATA 1.5 Gbit/s and that is the lowest variant possible

That is the maximum speed of the SATA bus. Find me a 2.5" HDD that reads/writes at speeds even close to that.

 

[Kittonwy]

Just read the entire thread. Exciting stuff.

My question the entire time has been, how do these youtube videos have only 300 views? It seems like there are more comments than views!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jOEbZEkp9A

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_164879&feature=iv&v=8IDaGne0u-4


have been reading for an hour and the first video has stayed at 315 hits the entire time...

Why Infamous? It's available for download already. Something seems fishy about the whole thing.

 

[cyberheater]

If you were selling USB dongles at about $150 a pop...

Is that the going rate for the dongle then?

 

[jett]

Jeez. I wonder how fast games would load from a fast SSD. That would be amazing to see.

Tests have been made with a PS3 equipped with a SSD. I think at most it loaded some stuff in half the time.

 

[cyberheater]

That is the maximum speed of the SATA bus. Find me a 2.5" HDD that reads/writes at speeds even close to that.

Yeah. I hear you. I think the important point is that an external HDD should be fast enough.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Why Infamous? It's available for download already. Something seems fishy about the whole thing.

I know, and what's up with the wind moving the flag on the moon landing video, everyone knows there's no wind on the moon!

 

[J-Rzez]

Tests have been made with a PS3 equipped with a SSD. I think at most it loaded some stuff in half the time.

Hopefully by time the next consoles launch, larger SSD's cost significantly less than they do now. They should be the standard in the next consoles due to their performance.

 

[cyberheater]

Tests have been made with a PS3 equipped with a SSD. I think at most it loaded some stuff in half the time.

Pretty impressive. SSD load times vs standard bluray must be like night and day. I guess it would make the system seem pretty nippy.

On another (technical) note. Why doesn't it allow the use of bluray movie backups?

 

[Kittonwy]

I know, and what's up with the wind moving the flag on the moon landing video, everyone knows there's no wind on the moon!

Invisible space cat.

 

[gcubed]

This, why I'm not excited about this at all.

I can't wait for threads of people that bought this and some how end up getting a bricked system.



Go on youtube and watch demos.

this is exactly what i'm waiting for in a few weeks

Pretty impressive. SSD load times vs standard bluray must be like night and day. I guess it would make the system seem pretty nippy.

On another (technical) note. Why doesn't it allow the use of bluray movie backups?

from speculation, they took the coding for a debug unit and made it available for general use... debug units have no need for bluray movie backups. Although if it is a full interrupt in the system it can open up some possibilities.

 

[Drkirby]

Jeez. I wonder how fast games would load from a fast SSD. That would be amazing to see.

And people wonder why I want the return of carts.

 

[Kittonwy]

This, why I'm not excited about this at all.

I can't wait for threads of people that bought this and some how end up getting a bricked system.



Go on youtube and watch demos.

Those people are probably going to blame Sony.

 

[JADS]

That is the maximum speed of the SATA 1 bus. Find me a 2.5" HDD that reads/writes at speeds even close to that.

I am sure I can dig up some 2.5" SSD that can get close, but that was not the point. He said that USB2.0 was faster than the internal HD, which isn't possible because even SATA1 is faster.

 

[alr1ght]

More info or supposition from joystiq that is quite interesting.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/19/usb-modchip-device-claims-to-allow-ps3-retail-backups/#continued

well it looks like the stick puts the thing into debug mode and it then runs Sony's own code to run it. :lol

 

[androvsky]

Pretty impressive. SSD load times vs standard bluray must be like night and day. I guess it would make the system seem pretty nippy.

On another (technical) note. Why doesn't it allow the use of bluray movie backups?

Debug units can't play blu-ray movies (possibly DVDs too). I'm assuming this thing turns systems back into a retail PS3 after you reboot or remove it, otherwise people aren't going to be too thrilled with some of the side effects.

 

[Lonewolf_92]

Hey Sony (and SDF), this time

So what's the over-under of some brilliant young hacker out there cooking up some CFW for the PS3 now that this has slipped into the market?

 

[captmcblack]

If this is legit, I'm going to buy another PS3, find a way to roll it back to old Linux-friendly FW, and hope that they crack it wide open like they did the original Xbox.

Seriously...a PS3 with all of its available HW available to use for running whatever OSes you wanted, full-tilt emulation, and media server software (HD XBMC? omg) would be the most awesome thing ever made...it'd be the HTPC I always wanted!

 

[Gouken]

This won't last long considering how Sony updates the PS3 50 times a week.

 

[cyberheater]

Debug units can't play blu-ray movies (possibly DVDs too). I'm assuming this thing turns systems back into a retail PS3 after you reboot or remove it, otherwise people aren't going to be too thrilled with some of the side effects.

That seems pretty plausible. I wonder how it limits the PS3 in other ways?

 

[gcubed]

Hey Sony (and SDF), this time

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you're a real winner

 

[StealthGoblin]

your a real winner

Yeah, parents must be so proud.

 

[hteng]

whats with the cap ?

 

[Darkenmal]

I would get this, but only to use it to backup all my games.

I would never have to put in a disc again.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Hey Sony (and SDF), this time

[MG]http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/joker-hat.jpg[/IMG]

So what's the over-under of some brilliant young hacker out there cooking up some CFW for the PS3 now that this has slipped into the market?

This is reaction of a fanboy. Like some are happy that the PS3 is hacked (for the wrong reasons).

 

[Momo]

I honestly do not give a crap about a modchip, (apart from the fact that this will now inconvenience me due to Sony most likely becoming draconian) one thing has me worried though, Sony possibly rushing out 3.42/3.5 w/e firmware and it bricking my PS3 when I update. Now I'm going to have to wait a day or two before doing the next system update :/

 

[StealthGoblin]

The firmware team are barely useful as it is, and now they'll spend their time trying to salvage this situation. More delays for requested features and enhancements will follow for those who go about their gaming legally. Thanks modders!

 

[Momo]

The firmware team are barely useful as it is, and now they'll spend their time trying to salvage this situation. More delays for requested features and enhancements will follow for those who go about their gaming legally. Thanks modders!

Hey, this is almost exactly what I posted (page 3) before I left for work this morning :lol

 

[CozMick]

Firmware 3.42 in 3.....2......1.............

Pointless mod is pointless, especially for those who game online.

 

[cyberheater]

Is there something inherently special about the usb memory stick apart from it probably being protected?

 

[Taij]

Debug units can't play blu-ray movies (possibly DVDs too). I'm assuming this thing turns systems back into a retail PS3 after you reboot or remove it, otherwise people aren't going to be too thrilled with some of the side effects.

I want to see it confirmed that they are in fact playing on a retail kit. I still think it's most likely that the video has a debug kit with the top plate swapped so it just says "playstation 3" without the "test" text.

Regardless if this is legit and it puts it in debug state then there are going to be a couple of issues. First in the video when he reboots the kit it still clearly has the debug options enabled, so setting it to retail isn't as easy as rebooting it. Now he had the usb stick in during reboot so *maybe* all you have to do is remove that and reboot it.

More importantly if you have an unsigned dump of a game and you want to patch it you need to have an unsigned patch from the internal psn. You likely won't have access to the internal psn, and even if you do devs rarely (if ever) put patches there, so you can play your game in the base state but the second it needs a patch you can no longer go online with it.

I'm still skeptical of all this but we'll see.

 

[black_vegeta]

Hoopefully this is just a bunch of bull.

 

[dallow_bg]

Tests have been made with a PS3 equipped with a SSD. I think at most it loaded some stuff in half the time.

I remember SSD tests back in the day and improvements were only slight.

Things have changed?

 

[demosthenes]

Those people are probably going to blame Sony.

I have no doubt that they will.

 

[xtop]

I remember SSD tests back in the day and improvements were only slight.

Things have changed?

from what i saw, only really makes a difference with downloadable titles

 

[H_Prestige]

I remember SSD tests back in the day and improvements were only slight.

Things have changed?

SSDs have improved a lot since then.

I'd be interested in one just for the reliability and peace of mind. Once prices go down I plan on installing them in my macbook pro and 60gb ps3 (if I could just get the damn screws out).