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PS3 USB Jigkick confirmed real
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phosphor112
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Prime crotch said:
Well, PS Minis work both on PS3 and PSP, so I'm sure there is some sort of emulation going on with the PS3.
The Faceless Master
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know what makes more money? a device that does both.Eiji said:
the PS3 isn't region free. only PS3 games are.SolidusDave said:
H_Prestige
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TheSeks said:
No it isn't. Only one part of the software that ps3 runs is not region coded.
ClovingWestbrook
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phosphor112 said:
Howabout YOU don't make assumptions about me and I won't make assumptions about you, mmkay?
What does being Arab have to do with right and wrong? Please, do tell. Many people regardless of their race are bullied by the FBI and many of them go to court. Ever hear of the ACLU? That is what they're here for. To come to the assistance of those whose rights are being trampled on. Why do they exist? Because many times citizens have their rights trampled on and are without the financial means to defend themselves in court.
I don't use Linux but I also don't drink beer. Does that mean I shouldn't be up in arms if the government sought to clamp down on the use of beer for those who do drink it? No. Because one day if I so choose to grab a beer, I should have the ability to do so. If I purchased a product that was advertised to include a feature, even if I don't use the feature throughout the duration that I have the product, I should still be able to have every feature that was advertised when I purchased it. The fact that you don't understand that this is about consumer rights tells me all that I need to know about you on this issue.
And quit it with the straw-man. I never HAVE EVER said that a bootloader is karma for what Sony did so how about you drop that argument when discussing this issue with me. Ok?
Linux on PS3 arguments have always turned to complete shit in less than a page, but this stood out to me.
So if we do know basic bash commands we are allowed to complain? How about if I wrote a driver for a custom video card for linux? Ever accidentally allocate non-cache-coherent memory for DMA?
But that's completely beside the point. You don't need to know bash to run modern linux, especially one designed for a fixed platform like YDL was. You don't need to know bash to run firefox or openoffice, or any of the other programs it comes with.
phosphor112 said:
So if we do know basic bash commands we are allowed to complain? How about if I wrote a driver for a custom video card for linux? Ever accidentally allocate non-cache-coherent memory for DMA?
But that's completely beside the point. You don't need to know bash to run modern linux, especially one designed for a fixed platform like YDL was. You don't need to know bash to run firefox or openoffice, or any of the other programs it comes with.
charlequin
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missile said:
I'm serious. Not gonna ask a third time.
TheSeks said:
Every PS3 is regioned and distinct from other PS3s with different regions. It's just that PS3 games don't have a region lock. Precision!
SolidusDave
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charlequin said:Every PS3 is regioned and distinct from other PS3s with different regions. It's just that PS3 games don't have a region lock. Precision!
All PS3 games have a region encoded, so ergo I could say the PS3 itself does not enforce region coding on PS3 games (and PSN games and re-licensed PS1 games etc.).
Also, you guys know that wasn't the point.
If the PS2 was region free for PS2 games but not PS1 games, less people would have bought a mod chip or similar stuff.jim-jam bongs
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BoboBrazil
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Yep, old news from a couple of days ago. Only a temporary injuction until August 31st. Since this thing doesn't contain any Sony code, business should be back to usual September 1st.
jim-jam bongs
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Cheers, good thing I didn't make a thread.BoboBrazil said:Yep, old news from a couple of days ago. Only a temporary injuction until August 31st. Since this thing doesn't contain any Sony code, business should be back to usual September 1st.
CadetMahoney
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thx, ur a star/Vamphuntr said:
OldJadedGamer
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SolidusDave said:
PSN games aren't region locked but the DLC for them is.
BoboBrazil
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Zoe said:
The maker of the device has said that it contains no copyrighted code, the shell for the device was dumped and others have said it contains no copyrighted code. What else is needed as proof?
charlequin
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consoul said:
This was kind of my point when everyone was debating it earlier. Now it currently appears to be a clean hack without any code copyrighted to Sony -- and that is likely to affect the legal proceedings not at all. :lol
BoboBrazil
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Let's see if they get one of these injuctions for Europe or North America by the time stock is shipped out. People in China already have stock and are selling them. Most sites are supposed to get stock by Wednesday. Supposedly with the code that came out anyone can make a clone if they have the right parts and if someone will make that usb driver for the psp, you could use that instead.
http://kotaku.com/5474375/nintendo-goes-to-court-again-this-time-over-ds-piracy"spwolf said:
According to Australia...
Modchip = Good.
Modchip with it's own Storage Capacity = Bad
The Faceless Master
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PS Jailbreak doesn't come with any ISO/Backup software though. and you can't get games off the internet and copy them to the PS Jailbreak.Fafalada said:
PS Jailbreak Update
The PS Jailbreak Team has confirmed, exclusively to PSX-SCENE, that they will be launching a new Backup Manager (version 1.1) soon with new features & tweaks.
They would also like to clarify that the launch delay was not caused by a parts shortage as originally reported. They are finishing their retail packaging and finalizing the new software.
With the recent injunction in Australia, they have decided to stand behind their dealers and distributors with financial support. They have made a sizable donation to both OzMods and Quantronics to help support the cause!
The PS Jailbreak Team has confirmed, exclusively to PSX-SCENE, that they will be launching a new Backup Manager (version 1.1) soon with new features & tweaks.
They would also like to clarify that the launch delay was not caused by a parts shortage as originally reported. They are finishing their retail packaging and finalizing the new software.
With the recent injunction in Australia, they have decided to stand behind their dealers and distributors with financial support. They have made a sizable donation to both OzMods and Quantronics to help support the cause!
No. It's:ruby_onix said:
Modchip that allows import games = good
Modchip that doesn't allow import games and can be used for piracy = bad
If you use a modchip that was installed for import games to pirate, that is also bad, but the modchip itself is allowed as it does have a useful non-piracy function not available elsewhere.
The systems upon which the R4 and Jigkick work don't need import games as they are already region free. The other modchips are the types that it's OK to install (although there are other restrictions on imports depending on copyrighted code, etc.)
BoboBrazil
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Killthee said:
This is fantastic news. Great they are going to be updating software and it was a nice thing to do for those sites in Australia.
Can someone explain to me how this is different from the Lik-Sang case that happened some years ago? They first got into trouble with Sony because they were selling mod chips. It took a while for a decision to be made so meanwhile Lik-Sang ''transformed'' itself into a legit import dealer. Sony ultimately won in court. It seems they won by taking actions against them in multiple countries at the same time so that Lik Sang couldn't keep up. I checked wikipedia and other pages but the info is not very complete.
Vamphuntr said:
Actually the story there is pretty accurate. For the mod chips, it wasn't just Sony, but also Nintendo and Microsoft went hard on Lik Sang and caused them to legitimize their business, it was because of the early release of the PSP in a market were it was yet not available that Sony went all out on them.... it was this that caused them to close shop.
Noshino said:
I see. Thank you
. The wikipedia claims that the big three sued for copyright infringements. How were the mod chips (or mod chip selling) breaking copyrights? By reading this thread I was pretty sure it wasn't the case. Only maybe if the chips were made/modified from parts created by the big three? This is the part I wasn't sure about.ClovingWestbrook
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Zoe said:
No, it's up to Sony to prove that he is using their code; not up to him to prove that he isn't.
Mod chips don't break copyrights. They're not even a tool for breaking copyrights (unless it's a combination of a modchip and a dumper). They legally and rightfully remove artificial restrictions on the hardware that you own and are allowed to mess with. If someone chooses to break the law and break a copyright, a modchip can go a long way towards making that broken copyright useful (another use for it would be legal emulators).Vamphuntr said:I see. Thank you
Companies sue to ban modchips the same way some people try to outlaw hammers after some guy with a cheating wife bashes his best friend's head in with one.
People who need to break region locks are obviously less common than carpenters who need hammers, and there are more software pirates than murderers in this world, but the principle is the same, and there are also people, particularly on GAF, who like to break copyrights for genuinely harmless reasons.
Sony shut down Lik Sang by arguing that it was their right to screw European gamers, and that Lik Sang was criminal by selling anything to them. They'll use any argument or tactic they can and don't care who gets hurt in the war against piracy.
The Faceless Master
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i notice that you only quoted and responded to the first part. the response about the R4 had two distinct attributes.Fafalada said:
DangerousDave
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consoul said:
That is as paper-thin as "we are not hosting pirated games, we are hosting .torrent files that redirect to the pirated games that other people is distributing by P2P. But there is no pirate game in our servers".
At least M3 cards had in the official web a video dumping program for their DS carts.
The Faceless Master
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neither of the two australian resellers that were issued an injunction via Sony received their shipment yet. someone mentioned that the PS Jailbreak people posted a notice saying that they were finalizing retail packaging and working more on added value software, which delayed their initial shipment date. also, neither of the two resellers had their sample unit anymore.Truespeed said: