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PS4: Standby or Power down?
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brickarts295
Member
For now Shut down, until Sony fixes some more issues.
Ignore the rest of the thread (all of the people saying "turn it off" and being completely wrong). The PS4 and Xbox One use PC architecture, meaning that they are meant to be left on or in standby mode. If you turn your PS4 and Xbox One off every time you finish using it, you will kill the hardware. The moving components such as the hard drive will age prematurely and you will also fuck up the power supply.
The PS3 and the XBOX 360 are built to be turned off and on over and over again, so these are consoles that you do NOT want to leave on all the time. Turning the PS3/360 off does not reduce its lifespan.
The PS3 and the XBOX 360 are built to be turned off and on over and over again, so these are consoles that you do NOT want to leave on all the time. Turning the PS3/360 off does not reduce its lifespan.
The Bookerman
Member
Oh... this one is good...
Well, it's much higher than average for everything but cable boxes, according to this chart from Energy Star. And cable boxes are notoriously inefficient. For comparison, a 27" imac uses 1W when sleeping with WOL enabled.
Individually, 10W is no big deal, but Sony is going to sell 15M of these things a year. In aggregate, that's 150 megawatts of continuous load.
BloodMoney
Banned
I turn it off unless I want to charge the controllers.
Oppo
Member
Netherscourge
Banned
I boot up and shut down my PC every single day.
I will do the same with my PS4.
I never leave electronics running when I'm not using them and I've never had any problems.
You really won't have any issues unless you are constantly turning them on and off throughout the day. I tend to only play at night, so my PC/consoles turn on around 8pm and turn off around 12AM and they stay off until the next night.
I will do the same with my PS4.
I never leave electronics running when I'm not using them and I've never had any problems.
You really won't have any issues unless you are constantly turning them on and off throughout the day. I tend to only play at night, so my PC/consoles turn on around 8pm and turn off around 12AM and they stay off until the next night.
What a load of BS.
What does that even mean. Only crazy persons want to save energy?
Standby is 10W.
dcx4610
Member
Yes. The fan stays on 24/7 if you put it in stand by mode. The same thing happens on the PS3.
I've built enough computers and had enough case fans over the years to know how quickly they wear out staying on 24 hours. Unlike a PC, I can't easily get in and swap out the fan if the bearings start going out on it.
I'm going with full power off for now at least.
I've built enough computers and had enough case fans over the years to know how quickly they wear out staying on 24 hours. Unlike a PC, I can't easily get in and swap out the fan if the bearings start going out on it.
I'm going with full power off for now at least.
theclosetfan
Member
Well, considering the fact that pressing the power button on the console itself puts it in standby mode rather than shutting it off completely, I think standby is the way Sony designed it.
Oh, and to those claiming the fan runs in standby...it does, for about 20 seconds, and then it turns off.
Oh, and to those claiming the fan runs in standby...it does, for about 20 seconds, and then it turns off.
PIMPBYBLUD
Member
They need to update this with the option to turn it off; although I don't know what they would use as an indicator to let you know your console is in standby.
Agreed although an iMac can't actually do anything while it's asleep. I think 10W is a pretty good compromise to have the downloading/installing part "alive".
I mean, they saved a lot of power by NOT including folding@home this time, think of the juice that thing ate...
I don't think the 10W gets you downloading. As far as I can tell, it's 10W to effectively sleep with WOL enabled. If it needs to do a download or install it crank up to 70W.
I could be wrong, though. I haven't actually measured anything myself.
The Omega Man
Member
I tried standby but it didn't seem that much faster to boot and I don't have a vita so I guess Power Down is ok for me.
what a load of bs
My PS3 fan definitely doesn't stay on when in standby.
Why the hell would you want to actively cool the PS3 when it uses ~0.5W in standby anyway?
Am I going insane, GAF?
That makes sense, thanks.
theclosetfan
Member
The fan does not stay on, unless, I presume, the console is downloading something. If your fan is running 24/7 in standby then something is wrong.
dcx4610
Member
The fan stays on. Enable remote play and then power down your system. The fan stays on, albeit in a lower state to keep the CPU cool since it's sitting and waiting for remote play.
Same thing with the PS4. Put your ear to both with them in standby, you'll hear it.
Bony Manifesto
Member
I think he's talking about the standby mode the PS3 goes into when you enable wake on LAN for Remote Play. That definitely did have the fan going at its lowest speed all the time.
Edit: Beaten!
DrGonzo615
Banned
On my system the fan only stays on for a short period after playing games (maybe 5-10minutes) then after the system cools off, it seems to shutdown the fan completely...or at least reduces it to a speed that is not audible even when I'm standing over the thing and I cant feel any airflow coming out of the back of the system.
My bad then, I don't use remote play on my PS3 due to lack of supported games.
EU citizen so unfortunately I can't put my ear on the PS4 yet either
Angelus Errare
Banned
Your PS3 is broken.
Standing by
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGr7lXlyK3Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGr7lXlyK3Y
dcx4610
Member
I'll check it tonight. I only tried standby once and the fan stayed on after putting into standby just like the PS3. I don't see why the PS4 would be any different.
I'll leave it in standby for 30+ minutes and check it.
dcx4610
Member
No, completely normal. I think people are confusing standby with seeing the little red light on their PS3.
If the PS3 has the power cable connected, you will see a red light on your system. This is NOT standby. The system is completely powered off and there will be no fan.
If you enable Remote Play for the PSP/Vita, the system will then be in standby mode. You will still see a red light on the PS3 but the system fan will now run 24/7 at low RPMs to keep the CPU cool (which is also running in a low wattage state).
If you enable remote play on the PS4, I see no reason why the fan wouldn't run 24/7 as well since it has to keep the hardware running in a low power state. I'll test it tonight.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
This is somewhat confusing, since the only option to turn off the PS3 put it in standby mode. With the PS4 they give you two options, and the 'turn off' option on it essentially feels like the shut down option on the PS3 but you lose all functionality. The orange light is enough to make me want to shut it down, along with the fact that both options coming back on seem to take the exact same amount of time.
NEOPARADIGM
Banned
InVinoVeritas
Member
I had mine in standby mode yesterday, and we had some bad storms come through the area, causing a few brief outages. When I checked it later, the lights on the system were off completely, and when I turned it back on, it said it was shut down improperly. I'm assuming that was due to the power being cut to the system while it was in standby mode.
TAS
Member
Oh ok good. I knew that didn't sound right LoL
Killing_Joke
Member
I'll use Standby once PSN is fully working. I wish they at least add a blinking light to let you know stuff is being downloaded.