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I don't read color, so I had no problems with casting.
No.
"EWWW rue is black?? I'm not watching" = racist
"nah, i just pictured darker skin. didn't take it all the way to black" = not racist
There are 10 tweets in the picture in the OP. I count 4 of them are not being racist so much as surprise or just having a different opinion the the casting. specifically
"after watching the hunger games preview 6 times in a row i realized Rue is black. whaaaaat? #shocked"
"to all my hunger games readers out there: did anyone picture rue as being black? No offense but i just didnt see her like that"
"i imagined her white"
"nah i pictured darker skin, didnt really take it all the way to black"
so we have 40% of the tweets used in the OP right there. There is nothing overtly racist about any of those posts. NOTHING.
First tweet: Woman is shocked. Not racists
Second tweet: It is her imagination. Who are you to tell anyone how they are to imagine something?
Third tweet: Same as the second
Fourth tweet: same as the second and third
Let us use God as an example. To some it is a he. To some it is a she. To some it is a flying spaghetti monster. God has been played by so many different actors and creatures (thank you South Park) that no one depiction will satisfy everyone's imagined view of God. So how is a few people saying "hey that isnt what i imagined" even remotely racist?
all the ones pictured sound pretty racist to me.
this is what passes for writing these days?
I read the first book before seeing the trailer's, but i assumed Rue and her opposite tribute were both black for some reason.
I would say Rue has light brown skin.
Jennifer Lawrence should have played all the roles.
Dark Brown Skin.
Also the girl you posted isn't white, she's from Chile.
That last tweet disgusts me.Those tweets were a little subtle, but the you see that last one...
Wait, how'd you get the book on iBooks?
Wasn't available the last time I checked..
How many times has a black character turned into a white character? There is no comparison. Mena Suvari even did an entire movie that was based on the true events of a black woman!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuck_(2007_film)
black?I don't want her ending up like Eddie Murphy.
black?
Her playing Eddie Murphy would be interesting though.I don't want her ending up like Eddie Murphy.
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That shit is called spoilers, dude.
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Lol at thinking some of those tweets are racist when they are clearly not. Racism is becoming another word so overused and thrown out that it has lost meaning, similar to the racist terms people overuse. Im a black male and Ive seen the n-word used so commonly that it hardly offends. Heck im more offended by people getting offended by the word as it seems just as discriminating as the people using the word.
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Seriously. Stop with the spoilers, man. You've already done it twice in the OT.
Oh my god, I did not know; I DID NOT KNOW!!!No. With a tranny.
My bar for offensive language is really high, and these tweets totally show racism.
Pretty much. :/ And this topic just reminds me that as a race (human) we still have a long way to go.That shit is called spoilers, dude.
And dark brown can mean a tanned white person. I could bring out a color palette and everything if you want, but tan is closer to brown than it is orange. You know it. I know it. Anyone who isnt color blind knows it. I was using hyperbole in the case of Snookie because technically she has "dark brown skin" in that picture. It is all a matter of perception. Her skin is darker than mine, than that of Lily Cole, and darker than that of plenty of people. Given the bookes description of Rue being "Dark brown and "dark skin" there are a myriad of ways that can be interpretted given the diverse colors of the human race. Hell you could even say it is an Indian person if you want to go with technicalities on color.
As for the implications of "dark brown"... It goes back to the beginning. If you think that everyone who made those tweets is a racist then you are as dumb/ignorant as they are.
i may as well have some fun pointing out that there are always two sides to every story.
Let us use God as an example. To some it is a he. To some it is a she. To some it is a flying spaghetti monster. God has been played by so many different actors and creatures (thank you South Park) that no one depiction will satisfy everyone's imagined view of God. So how is a few people saying "hey that isnt what i imagined" even remotely racist?
This is like Thor all over again.Minorities are barely represented as it is and they whine because a character isn't white!
not all of them, not even remotely racist in a few of them.
this is what passes for writing these days?
..........Oh my god, I did not know; I DID NOT KNOW!!!No. With a tranny.black?I don't want her ending up like Eddie Murphy.
And that girl was insanely cute, I was so sadwhen she died
lol I didn't read up to that point in the thread.Now what could *possibly* be behind that spoiler text?
Now what could *possibly* be behind that spoiler text?
Of the ones on the first page maybe number 3 and maybe (but less likely) number 6 aren't racist. The rest most certainly are.
Well, there goes their future jobs!
Actually the Racism Defense Force GAF is one of the larger groups.Funny replies to my comment.
Some of the comments in this thread continue the trend of there being a defense force for everything.
Maybe they are all just playing devil's advocates and just haven't told anyone yet.Actually the Racism Defense Force GAF is one of the larger groups.
Well, context is important too. Panem is N. America (Or at least a large section of it) & District 11 is where cotton & food is grown and two of its residents are darker than what Katniss is used to seeing and both are in the games. This is all from the first book.From those descriptions i would probably have imagined "south american brown/olive" rather "than african black". But i'm not fussy about a movie adaptation casting different persons from what i had imagined reading the book.
It must be really hard watching movie adaptations for people who care that much about their imagination diverging from the vision of the director/casting crew
No one is arguing that there aren't other complexions that fit the term "dark"--we're arguing that when someone is described as "dark brown skin", no one should be surprised when the resulting person has... dark brown skin.
You must be deliberately ignoring this, because this is not the first time this has been pointed out in the thread. Your defensive posturing about Snooki is absurd.
This isn't a reality where a character described as having dark brown skin was cast with an actress of Snooki's complexion and people here were arguing that casting as not acceptable because she's not black.
This is a reality where a character described as having dark brown skin was cast black and people elsewhere were arguing that casting is surprising or unacceptable (depending on the tweet in question).
Your last post said you were playing devil's advocate, but here you're not playing devil's advocate, you're saying that everyone involved is exactly equally dumb. That's not devil's advocate. Devil's advocate is when you adopt a position you don't believe in simply so that it is represented in the discussion and to test the position you do believe in. So you're not playing devil's advocate.
Now, dealing with this argument as though it were sincere; You're saying it's equally dumb to draw a pattern of racial thought in those tweets--noting that both the Gizmodo article and the original blog begin to sketch out the case for passive racism, although the argument is pretty unrefined and weak--and as it is to be surprised or in most cases disappointed that a black role is cast black?
Not sure how you can call me disingenuous at all honestly.I believe that this falls under "purposely being disingenuous to an active discussion".