They didnt ruin it for everyone. There's no reason Nintendo needed to cutoff everyone when they know who did it. Especially while allowing others to have access.
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Report: Nintendo of America Clamps Down on Review Copies Following Mario & Luigi Supe
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They didnt ruin it for everyone. There's no reason Nintendo needed to cutoff everyone when they know who did it. Especially while allowing others to have access.
Might be due to FE: Warriors having both 3DS and Switch version
SuperDowns
Banned
Not sure if sarcasm
/v/ had plenty of threads showing the sprite changes, people on youtube uploading the music and lots of users saying theyve beaten it already.
This was like a week or so before release. Maybe earlier.
Letting just anybody be an influencer on youtube is an odd decision anyway cause of lot of people ive watched who are influencers dont even review the games theyre given?
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
The lock down on review copies certainly seems like this one individual ruined it for everyone. At least from an outsiders perspective.
Its the truth, though.
We had early rushed impressions of Hyrule Warriors that made it sound like it was really light on content because the players in question sped through the story mode and didn't really look at adventure mode long enough to see that its the actual meat of the game.
Nintendo's probably somewhat thankful it was that instead, like a canary in the mines. A remake (that doesn't even use 3D!) taking the hit while their big, high profile games are spared.
Though FE Warriors would have been the inferior version leaking anyway.
And rightly so
I am in EU so so far not afflicted but I would hate to be due to his bad bwhaviour
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
The irony though is that the games they're protecting can't be leaked, so far as we know. The Switch and its security haven't been widely cracked yet, have they?
From our perspective, sure. From the perspective of a publisher, an 'influencer' is 'grass roots' PR, free promotion rather than a written list of flaws in addition to praise, and easier targets for winning over with freebies than a reviewer worried about credibility and independence due to being individuals without any company oversight or consequences on employee gifts accepted.
The article mentions a tiered system of sending out review copies so it sounds like traditional media outlets and media Nintendo has a long relationship with are probably in the 1st tier and newer, possibly less trustworthy reviewers and influencers are in lower tiers. The last thing Nintendo wants is any of their big holiday titles leaking online because a reviewer decided they don't care about professional ethics.
Nintendo got pretty lax on their rules when it came to social media influencers. When Switch launched it was pretty surprising how small they went. Many people they gave Switch and games to were tiny accounts that could be as small as 5-10k subscribers.
I mean on one hand its great they took the chance on smaller people instead of just feeding the hundreds of thousands or millions of subscriber scene.
That said it could just as easily be one of those people with massive followings cant automatically blame the little guys
I mean on one hand its great they took the chance on smaller people instead of just feeding the hundreds of thousands or millions of subscriber scene.
That said it could just as easily be one of those people with massive followings cant automatically blame the little guys
Huge Succeeded
Banned
Yes. Weeks before the game released, in fact. I mean weeks.
I don't believe so. The timing is a bit off for that. However it would have been near impossible to prove, but I have little doubt in my mind that the 2+ week early Sun & Moon leak came from a review copy.
While I understand them being more restrictive with review copies after this, why are they being so with switch games?
No switch games have been dumped yet? And even if So, pretty sure there's no way to play them yet.
At least hoping we see Mario odyssey reviews more than a day before launch.
No switch games have been dumped yet? And even if So, pretty sure there's no way to play them yet.
At least hoping we see Mario odyssey reviews more than a day before launch.
Interface23
Member
Interface23
Member
In no universe is it good. Late reviews seemingly lead to less sales. Just look at Bethesda. Less sales = less risks and less great games
I think the incident they're referring to was X/Y which had details leaked via a Canadian outlet selling the game(s) weeks in advance.
Ah.
I was referring to Sun & Moon illegally leaking online in a similar method to Mario & Luigi here.
Hoho for breakfast
Member
Id rather not have influencers anyway. I don't pay any attention to this kind of stuff but if you want to send me free shit I can easily give my biased overly positive thoughts as well. And to top it off I won't be a douche and leak your game.
Maybe that's off base but it's my own uninformed opinion on the matter.
Maybe that's off base but it's my own uninformed opinion on the matter.
Diprosalic
Banned
how dumb do you have to be to upload your review copy.
By clamping down on review copies, Nintendo creates a situation where there's suddenly a lot to lose and sends a very clear message to everyone involved. And it goes just as well to indie devs and other small business partners as it does to YouTube influencers.
The message is clear: if you like a more open Nintendo, everyone reaping the benefit will follow the rules or the party's over, full stop.
Nah, there's a pretty clear reason, you're just not on board with it.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
I imagine this is just temporary until Nintendo comes to an internal decision on a new policy for this stuff.
they didn't cut out everyone, from my understading, but many.
they know who did it, but punishing a group clearly is aimed at warning ALL.
I really can't blame them, I totally blaim who share the review code.
I get those and the deals are very CLEAR about the allowed use of the FREE codes sent out.
Theres quite a few who try their best to make informative content that isnt complete shilling. (Although gamexplain is sometimes guilty of it)
Like i havent seen any Nintendo influencer whos entire career revolves around getting free stuff to the level of iJustine or Lamarr Wilson.
Little Monser
Banned
I dont think Nintntendo is worries about low sales with Odyssey
There's so few examples of that, so it's obscenely premature to say that.
And in what way exactly is Bethesda being used as the example? Poor marketing is a much bigger explanation for any sales slump their games have seen lately.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
I've never seen a gameexplain vid that felt like shilling. Their reviews always seem quite fair. I think they were one of the few that accurately called out sticker star for what it was at the time.
Although they did like color splash...
Little Mons†er;252370884 said:
Not with Odyssey, but Fire Emblem will almost certainly be affected by this
That's because Color Splash is a vast improvement over Sticker Star and actually a fun game and step in the right direction.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Not in America it hasn't
I'm wondering how successfull Nintendo would be if they pressed charges. They know exactly who did it, when they did and how many people downloaded that particular downloadable version. You can't get more precise than that.
Doesn't suprise me Nintendo is doing this. After the New Super Mario Bros Wii incident here in Australia many years ago they did a similar thing with release dates for awhile.
With that said though it really sucks for those genuine reviewers who will get affected by this. One person ruining it for the vast majority which is a shame.
With that said though it really sucks for those genuine reviewers who will get affected by this. One person ruining it for the vast majority which is a shame.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Nintendo does realise that with an Sd card and a pc, you can literally download every game on the eshop for free right?
What difference does a rom dump really make when you leave your fucking door unlocked 24/7
What difference does a rom dump really make when you leave your fucking door unlocked 24/7
Not before the game is out you can't.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Apparently that guy had to declare bankruptcy to get out of that massive settlement figure
Well, when that method allows people to play a game well before it hits retailers or the eShop...
The Switch has a decade's worth of protection built into it that they can burn through before hackers will have it open to all software unlike the 3DS/WiiU. Though software early on is already dumped (but not playable) because of the huge hole in the 1.0 and 3.0 firmwares that are being exploited right now.
GBATemp recently had a big discussion on this from some of the big guys in the scene. From the bootloader to the firmware, they can all be redefined by Nintendo and irreversibly so with no way around it until you crack the newest firmware.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
So two wrongs make a right?
-shadow-
Member
The Tom Nook part of your username makes this post absolute amazing. But damn that fellow screwed himself over royally!
Petrae
Member
Until NoA can draft appropriate legal documentation to hold all recipients of review code accountable, this is the best play in order to protect its assets. Sure, it was only one assclown who did this, but one is enough for a publisher to crack down and tighten the ship.
It seems harsh, but people will get the message. In addition, this gives NoA a chance to recalibrate its distribution of review code. The company doesnt need to send so much out, and really should further firm up its requirements for who gets product and who doesnt.
As for the influencer who did it, if that name gets out, Nintendos wrath wont be the only thing to deal with. Other influencers affected by such a boneheaded decision would be certain to unleash anger on this individual for ruining it for them. Getting an in with NoA is hard enough; to lose it because of some nippleheads actions must be infuriating.
It seems harsh, but people will get the message. In addition, this gives NoA a chance to recalibrate its distribution of review code. The company doesnt need to send so much out, and really should further firm up its requirements for who gets product and who doesnt.
As for the influencer who did it, if that name gets out, Nintendos wrath wont be the only thing to deal with. Other influencers affected by such a boneheaded decision would be certain to unleash anger on this individual for ruining it for them. Getting an in with NoA is hard enough; to lose it because of some nippleheads actions must be infuriating.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
That is nuts
OrbitalBeard
Member
GameXplain got a FE code, but IGN didn't?
yup
reaching so hard lol. managed to touch the back of his head with his arms in front of him