shadyspace
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The problem is that the people who are paid to write about video games are taking the same exact position.
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(Reuters) Sony's Vita arrives just as market may be fading
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The problem is that the people who are paid to write about video games are taking the same exact position.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Wow, what a headline. Pure ignorance.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
You're paid to hit biased perceptions of reality in that field. True soothsaying is dangerous.
These are your paymasters, in other words.
DidntKnowJack
Member
It's the daily Vita is doomed story. It's insane how much the press seems to be working against this device.
Tell them to buy Modern Combat 3.
What annoys me more than anything is this stuff is now coming to sites focused on "game journalism". I think Gamespot in particular did something similar to this, using poor examples to justify why the Vita isn't worth it.
I don't even want a Vita right now, but I, and what I assume to be some here, has more to do with the games and less of other platforms. There's nothing that wows me of the launch window lineup, and that has nothing to do with a 3DS or an iOS platform.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
its ok guys, when a 600 dollar product comes out this summer that can do exactly the same as last year's model but better, vita will really fail, cause y'know, a 600 dollar item is totally going to sell more than a 250 dollar item based on price alone.
Most people who are paid to write about video games have no idea what they're talking about either
.I can't count how many articles I've read on gaming sites where they get the most obvious and well known facts completely wrong. Gaming journalism, from the gaming journalists themselves to these 'analysts' who chime in, is just a mess.
Davey Cakes
Member
Reminds me of the last five years of Nintendo. Of course, it didn't stop their devices from becoming success stories.
Sometimes it's worth it to ignore the negative journalism.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Who cares? Game on what you want to game on. Are you going to let some analyst get in the way of your enjoyment of something. Especially an analyst whose only gaming comes from tablets and smartphones most likely.
The 3DS isn't going anywhere and neither is the Vita, neither are tablets or smart phones. Pick what you want to play on and enjoy.
The 3DS isn't going anywhere and neither is the Vita, neither are tablets or smart phones. Pick what you want to play on and enjoy.
It needs to be cheaper.
SEGAmaniaco
Member
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Let me introduce you to the profession known as consulting and analysis.
bigtroyjon
Member
Outside of the "analyst's" dumb comments I'm not sure what everyone thinks is so wrong about this article. Article is about the market in the US and despite the significant price cut, 3DS(and DS) hardware and software is still under Nintendo's expectations outside of Japan.
Actually, I don't have a problem with that comment. Nintendo did cut the price due to lackluster sales. My issue with the statement, however, is that it doesn't provide the result of Nintendo's action, nor the reason why the system was failing to sell at its original price - ie. it wasn't worth the premium Nintendo was asking for it. Even companies as big and successful as Nintendo can make pricing errors. Hell, most of them do.
SentientStone
Member
Failed platform or not, I will purchase a Vita once the 1st revision hits and the price drops to $150 or close to that... assuming it gets jailbroken then.
I am not a handheld gamer at all, if I were I would buy one earlier.
I am not a handheld gamer at all, if I were I would buy one earlier.
Are those code words for paid bullshitter? I thought that was only for psychics.
Most analysts outside the game industry give actual reasons for things.
These people could say that Sony has no guaranteed hits to get them out of the hole; especially now that Nintendo has MH. They could talk about how shitty a job Sony has done of advertising the thing. There's a lot of reasons they could give for predicting bad news for the Vita.
Instead we get LOL SMARTPHONES!
The only real point they brought up was the 3DS, and of course they completely failed to mention the 3DS shooting off to heaven after the price drop.
shadyspace
Banned
Of course it's a factually accurate statement. It's also one incredibly biased to the fallacious point the article is attempting to make.
EatinOlives
Member
$80 Vitas is the only way the market can survive.
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST, FOLKS. GET THIS MAN THE CEO POSITION AT SONY.
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST, FOLKS. GET THIS MAN THE CEO POSITION AT SONY.
Smartphones are ideal for multimedia stuff like videos , photos and music. But as Video Game machines they will always be poor because of the lack of a real controller. Also why are Smartphones considered competition to Nintendo and Sony? Games have been on cellphones since the begining of the 2000s and going by their logic since those early phones played games i guess Nintendo lost the war back then too since the Cell phone to Gameboy ratio was higher.
They could, but that sort of expert analysis is more valuable as a consultant. Or a GAF member. Don't expect mainstream analysts to be terribly comprehensive about issues pertaining to gaming hardware.
Apple. Google. The fact these companies are in the mobile market seems to be the sole reason people are now saying phones>handhelds. It's the fandom those companies get that contributes a lot to it.
EDIT: Look at TVs. These same companies are getting into those markets, and you have a very similar demographic saying that those TVs and potential mobile support for them will even kill consoles.
OrangeGrayBlue
Member
I'd like to talk to one of these "analysts" for five minutes.
Ultimately, it comes down to the fact that they really don't care. These articles come across as poorly researched because they are. A conclusion is drawn and then they find what they need to support that theory when it should be vice versa.
Ultimately, it comes down to the fact that they really don't care. These articles come across as poorly researched because they are. A conclusion is drawn and then they find what they need to support that theory when it should be vice versa.
Personally I hope it never gets jailbroken. The platform will have software sales problems the way it is. Add in piracy and the system will be dead. Sony does not have the money to support a money losing system for very long.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
WHAT?! I can’t here you....I’m too busy having fun on my shiny new Vita.
Smartphone gaming is the equivalent of kicking a can down the road. Something to keep my brain from getting numb with boredom. Playing on a handheld is like playing sports or watching a movie, something I do because I want to have fun or want to be engaged.
One isn't going to destroy the other.
One isn't going to destroy the other.
EatinOlives
Member
But...but...I want my SNES emulator on that sweet OLED screen :'(
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
but they would be flying with jetfuel at $59 and $69!
True, but what would you consider the rest of the article? Fair and balanced?
Sell it for $100 and expect the same outcome..
JacksUsername
Member
I hate how these articles gripe about prices nonstop and then compare it to the iPad. They really need to start emphasizing that these price comparisons are based on subjective value perspectives, not fact. Eh, well fact isn't the right word, but I think people understand what I mean.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
LOL at 79 bucks.
Buy a Galaxy.
I'm assuming he also wants buttons, another component necessary to enjoying video games.
EatinOlives
Member
Indeed.
A high-end piece of gaming handheld kit: Sell that shit for a dollar!
A yearly tablet from Apple: YAY! HERE'S $600!!
Yessir. I also want a shiny new emulator using the Vita's specs on it
Amory
Member
This is the same argument made against the vita in every news article, it's getting boring.
The vita is awesome. I don't think it's gonna have a short life, but even if it does I'm glad I bought one. Sleek as all hell. I wish I were playing it now... but I still have 8 and a half more hours of work. :-(
The vita is awesome. I don't think it's gonna have a short life, but even if it does I'm glad I bought one. Sleek as all hell. I wish I were playing it now... but I still have 8 and a half more hours of work. :-(
dreamer3kx
Member
Bah, we need something badass like the Vita, iphone and ipad games are not that, we need that Ferrari in this game, so we just stand still, got to take it to the next level with this.
Mushroomer25
Member
Except for the fact that the 3DS is mainly being bought by the pre-teen market - which Sony isn't even trying to go after.
Face it, Sony's target market just doesn't buy handhelds anymore.
Quadrangulum
Banned
I have the same problem with this article that I have with almost every single one of its brethren. Nothing written substantially suggests the 3DS or Vita will be "last of its breed." Making that the central thrust of the story is improper.
You can, if you buy a Vita.