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Rooster Teeth berate Jeff Gerstmann/Giant Bomb's Fallout 4 review while...
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Why do you say this?
what what what what what what
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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I'm sad that people just look at the number of the score and not the text that's used to tell you why the score is that number.
Haunted
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Not a good look for these folks.
I know that riding the line for these major Youtube influencer channels can be tough once they pass a certain viewership threshold. Between still trying to appear as "regular fans", Youtube personalities that got big for just having fun and shooting the shit - yet simultaneously being on the corporate payroll with exclusive access, [often undisclosed] advertorials and sponsored content etc
They seem to have gone full shill for Fallout 4. Whether the money was just that good this time around, or maybe they're certain that their audience isn't old enough to know better and they're calculating that they can get away with stuff like this (hey, it worked for the Yogscast people), I don't know. But they've crossed the line into flatout shilling territory with this and it's just not a good look for them, especially since they seem to covet that journalistic legitimacy and peer acceptance like so many other personal Youtube channels turned media companies.
I know that riding the line for these major Youtube influencer channels can be tough once they pass a certain viewership threshold. Between still trying to appear as "regular fans", Youtube personalities that got big for just having fun and shooting the shit - yet simultaneously being on the corporate payroll with exclusive access, [often undisclosed] advertorials and sponsored content etc
They seem to have gone full shill for Fallout 4. Whether the money was just that good this time around, or maybe they're certain that their audience isn't old enough to know better and they're calculating that they can get away with stuff like this (hey, it worked for the Yogscast people), I don't know. But they've crossed the line into flatout shilling territory with this and it's just not a good look for them, especially since they seem to covet that journalistic legitimacy and peer acceptance like so many other personal Youtube channels turned media companies.
SparkleMotion
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Well, yeah. Video games are objectively good or bad and all review scores need to reflect that.
MiamiWesker
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One star in a five star system is huge. If he felt the game was a four he should have given it a four and said if all these technical issues bother you then it's not for you.
It's all personal preference on how you view review scores. No real right or wrong. Because I am a gamer that rarely gets bothered by technical performance all I care about is to know how good or bad the game is. Bad frame rate doesn't bother me, bad gameplay does.
Clairvoyance
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Well, most sane RT fans realize that a lot of the people at RT are borderline shills. I watch their Let's Plays mostly, so I avoid their opinions of most popular games. Funniest part of this whole thing is that of all of the RT guys that I watch, Ryan is the only one who ever calls out Microsoft. Seeing him say stupid shit like this is certainly making me less of a fan.
Nightmare452
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Exactly!! Dont see why they do the same as any forum or Reddit user, but are being criticized here. But hey, if its not Giantbomb, it sucks right... They do seem enthusiastic for Fallout, so most here must be conflicted. "They praise Fallout but criticized Jeff, what do I do, its like choosing between two things I love, who to attack/defend."
I agree completely.
Never heard of these people. I'm no fan of Giant Bomb of of Jeff Gerstmann, but you know Rooster Teeth must suck if they devote so much time and energy to bad-mouthing their peers in the industry. Do your jobs. If people like what you do, they'll listen to you. It's too easy to earn fickle, sensation-hungry viewers by indulging in gossip and pot-shots. Sounds like these blowhards have been taking cues from the Fox News playbook.
Stabby McSter
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gross
FunkyPajamas
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You mean The Order - Review thread?
Hahaha holy shit I need a break from GAF.
Lol even if that were true (and it isn't), I don't follow GB and I like RT and I think this is a bad look for RT, so there you go.
Hellsing321
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Seems like a stupid and petty thing to get upset over. Does Rooster Teeth even do game reviews? They always struck me as just entertainers, not journalists so why are they talking about this at all?
The Dear Leader
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This a really sad situation, I'm a fan of Giant Bomb and Jeff's work and think him to be one of the realest people in the industry and about as impartial as they come. So seeing people who are questioning the journalistic merits of his review (remember the same buy that got sacked for giving Kane and Lynch a bad review even though GameSpot had a big marketing deal with the publisher) because he "reviews it low to get page hits" is just really messed up.
Plus having the gall to question anyones integrity while wearing their $120 Pip-Boys and making Bethesda sponsored Fallout 4 videos is just insane. This whole situation really puts Rooster Teeth into a negative light, not only does it make them look like fanboys but it also shows how tone deaf they can be when it comes to responding to criticism.
Plus having the gall to question anyones integrity while wearing their $120 Pip-Boys and making Bethesda sponsored Fallout 4 videos is just insane. This whole situation really puts Rooster Teeth into a negative light, not only does it make them look like fanboys but it also shows how tone deaf they can be when it comes to responding to criticism.
I love when shills tell me everything is awesome!
I don't see how that's in her defense at all
JinjoUnchained
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Its funny to read this thread on the same day as the Kotaku thread (getting blacklisted by Bethesda and Ubisoft). Quite the study in contrasts.
Which he did, there is a 4 Star review of Fallout 4 on the site if you don't think technical issues are a problem.
Jesus...get some Valium...
NoblesseOblige
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Roosters don't have teeth. They are birds (except in China). They have beaks.
SparkleMotion
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I don't know whether they are shills for Fallout because of money/swag or just gigantic emotional Fallout fanboys, cause that's the reaction you get when you go on a GameFAQs message board and say something slightly negative about a popular game.
MiamiWesker
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I did not know that. Never mind then.
That cold hard cash speaks so well from the heart.
PandaShake
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It got weirdly personal when they went to mentioning Jeff's mixlr. It's existence is rarely brought up in both the site and the podcast. Jeff's response pretty much sums it up.
Piston Hyundai
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He split the scores based on platform: 4 for PC, 3 for consoles. Also, if it's all personal preference on how you view review scores, why go into how you think he should have scored it? Should technical performance not factor into how good or bad he thinks the game is?
Junior Mint
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lol, right. "from the heart"
Glass Shark
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This is approaching HipHopGamer levels of nonsense. Never say anything bad about any game because then you might jeopardize your YouTube sponsorship dollars. "Games are really hard to make, every game should just get a high score because they tried real hard!"
Fucking yikes
Just saying it's hard to be smart sometimes ya know?
Salty Catfish
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Yeah, the tone of the mixlr comment made it sound like Meg had some weird, deep personal investment in this.
Yeah they don't actually do reviews, they talk about industry news that interests them, games they're currently playing or excited about etc. The Patch isn't a terribly formal podcast. It's kind of weird how much people assume they've been paid by Bethesda too, considering at least in the cases of Gus and Meg, the two wearing the pip boys in the video, they bought their own, and didn't get freebies. I know some of the people at the company did get early digital access to the game, but I think the only game that's officially sponsored Rooster Teeth content recently has been Rock Band 4, and they've been very open about that.
Absolutely ridiculous. I OFTEN disagree with Jeff Gerstmann, but I've never once got the vibe that his low scores are him looking for attention, or just wanting to be different. I actually just feel like he's a really cynical guy when it comes to games lately and he generally doesn't enjoy playing them anymore.
AcademicSaucer
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lol that wall of shame .
I honestly cant tell apart shills from fanboys anymore.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Giant Bomb was pretty much founded on and continues to run on unfiltered opinion.
Krappadizzle
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I hope Jeff Gerstmann dipped his crackers in all their salty tears.
Yeah lol, "she's just like those gaffers/redittors/ect. that get upset at reviews!" that's supposed to be a good thing?
We need more people like Jeff reviewing games. He reviews it for what it is and isn't affected by the Bandwagon Effect. Are you telling me that a year from now people are actually going to give a shit over a couple of points for an decent game? No, they will be busy hyping up the next game like it's the second coming.
It's telling that someone who rights a sensible review gets this kind of reaction. Maybe people need to stop getting carried away in the hype.
Yer, not a fan of Rooster Teeth to be honest. I would put them in the same boat as Machinima and Funhaus in terms of integrity and legitimacy when it comes insight into the industry. They do have a loyal base of fans, but I assume that has more to do with the personalities and their "hilarious antics" rather than their critical eye.
This is... REALLY bad
The Dear Leader
Banned
Lol
If heard of this thread before by wasn't actually around for it. Good lord.
I didn't even know this company existed.
But yeah gaming review sites like to shit on each other and call each other out all the time. I don't think there is any actual hate or bad intentions
Is big head mode activated on this dude?
Rooster Teeth making a mockery of themselves here.
Same.
5/5 should be reservered for the rare magnum opus and 4/5 is reserved for exceptional games. FO4 has writing, gameplay, quality of life, technical, and graphical issues so 3/5 console/ 4/5 PC is more than fair. And I say this being a huge FO4 fan who hates the main character's story, is still not conviced by Bethesda, but has nonetheless played FO4 for 100 hours giving up a week of vacation and an entire night of sleep in order to play it.
But no instead fanboys (in a broader sense, not specifically FO4) will only accept their games being rated at a 7-10 point scale where anything below are joke scores with absolutely no granulation.
TheSlySoul
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Yeah, the Kotaku thread really shows how much they (fanboys) suck up to publishers. It is gross.
I would call them shills, but they do it free.
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