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[Pineapple]

Is anyone else just really concerned about what is happening to the internet? The days of a free, open, fair, neutral, anonymous, and safe internet seem to be fading away.

I recently read this article from The Verge that discussed this legislation, and what it may mean for the future - http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15108474/isp-privacy-rules-congress-fcc-web-history

And quite frankly, it's just scary. Already, ISPs can now track your every move, and will be able to cross-reference your browsing activity with your credit cards, home address (since they already have that information) to build "premium" data to sell to ad and media networks. The article also mentions the continued erosion of privacy and security, and how things like supercookies (cookies you can't delete because they're not stored on your device) and ISP injected pop up ads could be on the table in the future. Couple all of this with the scaling back of net neutrality, and the web is about to become a very different place.

It's just sad to see all of this come crumbling down because of a few executives at places like Comcast and AT&T.

 

[Not]

I would like more people to weigh in on this. I feel like this is true.

If you've got nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. Unless, of course, you're the President of the United States being asked to release his tax information.

 

[FlyinJ]

https://arstechnica.com/information...n-sell-your-web-history-and-how-to-stop-them/

Even though ISPs could offer to sell your entire browsing history "legally", none of them offered this service for fear of lawsuits as their ability to do so only existed in their contracts but the legal ground was a bit shaky.

Once Trump signs this, the market is wide open and every ISP will offer this with no fear of repercussions.

So, in a sense, yes, this changes A LOT from what existed before.

 

[Joco]

Fuck my reps Mike Gallagher and Ron Johnson (WI) for voting for this.

 

[fatigues_gasolini]

Fuck my reps Mike Gallagher and Ron Johnson (WI) for voting for this.

Ron Johnson is one of the biggest pieces of shit on the planet.

 

[Carpe Carnim]

Of course fuckin, Robo-Rubio would be voting for this shitastic bill. Florida is such a horribly run, beautiful place.

The Legislature is discussing a bill right now that would potentially make my job mostly obsolete, HB17. It's for Freedumb!

SB 1158 Passidomo / HB 17 Fine — Regulation of Commerce, Trade, and Labor
Both SB 1158 and HB 17 preempt local governments from adopting new regulation on a business, profession, or occupation unless the regulation is expressly authorized by general law. Such a broad preemption could strike local government ability to regulate a huge number of activities from adult-oriented businesses to noise generation. SB 1158 vests rules in existence as of January 1, 2017. The bill would also not automatically nullify existing laws. Instead, it would create a process whereby a local government could challenge the laws of any other local government. A challenged bill would become void unless explicitly ratified by the state legislature. HB 17 would prevent adoption of new local government regulation of businesses and would also sunset existing regulations on July 1, 2020.

1000 Friends opposes SB 1158 and HB 17.

Senate referrals: Commerce and Tourism; Community Affairs; Appropriations; Rules

House Referrals: Careers & Competition Subcommittee (Passed); Commerce Committee

 

[Beartruck]

Of course fuckin, Robo-Rubio would be voting for this shitastic bill. Florida is such a horribly run, beautiful place.

The Legislature is discussing a bill right now that would potentially make my job mostly obsolete, HB17. It's for Freedumb!

What the ef? What is the net effect of this? Could you just plop a porn shop down wherever you like and nobody could say anything about it?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

This is an old article but a good read nonetheless:
https://theintercept.com/2015/11/12/edward-snowden-explains-how-to-reclaim-your-privacy/

It's important to realize that Tor is operated by a network of volunteers and anybody can volunteer to be a Tor node. I think you can figure out what that means already. It's generally accepted as fact that the NSA secretly runs many Tor nodes and monitors traffic that passes through their Tor nodes. You are not guaranteed any kind of privacy or security using Tor and you should not think that Tor makes you invisible on the Internet.

VPN services which have been vetted as not keeping records of traffic are better than Tor.

 

[Carpe Carnim]

What the ef? What is the net effect of this? Could you just plop a porn shop down wherever you like and nobody could say anything about it?

No, that might frighten the locals.

What it will do is allow the red counties to bombard the relatively compact, but densely populated cities with these preemption requests, allowing the rubes to overrule city governments' laws, and neuter local-control. The GOP-controlled, and highly gerrymandered, Legislature gets to decide on local ordinances and whether they inhibit 'trade, jobs, commerce and business'

The first thing they'll do is target municipalities with tough land-management and zoning codes. They'll also ram fracking down our throats with this one.

 

[Swass]

It's great that even republicans including t_d are upset about this, Trump could really get some kudos if he refused to sign.. he won't.

 

[Joco]

Ron Johnson is one of the biggest pieces of shit on the planet.

Yeah him beating Feingold is a travesty.

 

[Septimus Prime]

Oh look, some has set up a GoFundMe page to purchase the Internet histories of the politicians who voted for this:

https://www.gofundme.com/searchinternethistory

I would hold off on donating to this at least until we know how to actually purchase something like that.

The Cards Against Humanity guy also already said he would personally buy and publish all these people's histories.

 

[whyamihere]

How is r/The_Donald taking this

 

[Fenderputty]

How is r/The_Donald taking this

I imagine it's similar to the post our resident Trumpette, MAB128, just made.

IE: this is just a return to status quo.

 

[kendrid]

How is r/The_Donald taking this

There is a big thread and the highest upvoted comments hate it.

 

[Volimar]

I would hold off on donating to this at least until we know how to actually purchase something like that.

The Cards Against Humanity guy also already said he would personally buy and publish all these people's histories.

It was started by Misha Collins, of Supernatural fame. So that's neat.

 

[Keasar]

Stephen Colbert shares the Republican House search history.

 

[KernelPanic]

What's the over/under on Cambridge Analytica buying this just before election time?

 

[Jordan117]

This WSJ article is rather impressive:

With Washington’s Blessing...
Congress’s repeal...
the stance Washington is taking...
Lawmakers on Tuesday voted to overturn privacy rules...

Nearly 1,000 words and nary a mention of the fact that every vote for this was from a Republican while every Democrat voted against.

 

[TheOctodad]

Minnesota blocks the attempt on a state level in response: https://www.privateinternetaccess.c...rotections-response-repeal-fcc-privacy-rules/

 

[Parmadillo Marshmallow]

I would hold off on donating to this at least until we know how to actually purchase something like that.

The Cards Against Humanity guy also already said he would personally buy and publish all these people's histories.

Yeah it doesn't work like that. You won't be able to just buy someone's personally identifiable search history, that would violate other acts such as the wiretapping act that haven't been repealed. The new act is for aggregating data for marketing purposes.

However, I do see an opportunity here for a big ISP to step up and say they won't participate in this shit. They would get so much business.

 

[Tecnniqe]

Minnesota blocks the attempt on a state level in response: https://www.privateinternetaccess.c...rotections-response-repeal-fcc-privacy-rules/

Luls. GG

 

[Dominican Power]

Hopefully blue states like NY/CA follow.

 

[Mortemis]

Minnesota blocks the attempt on a state level in response: https://www.privateinternetaccess.c...rotections-response-repeal-fcc-privacy-rules/

Good shit Minnesota. Washington next pls.

 

[Septimus Prime]

However, I do see an opportunity here for a big ISP to step up and say they won't participate in this shit. They would get so much business.

As opposed to what? There's nowhere else most people can go regardless.

 

[Parmadillo Marshmallow]

As opposed to what? There's nowhere else most people can go regardless.

Ah yeah I guess I forgot that most people have no options when it comes to in-home Internet. I live right next to Silicon Valley and I am fortunate enough to have a choice.

 

[water_wendi]

Oh look, some has set up a GoFundMe page to purchase the Internet histories of the politicians who voted for this:

https://www.gofundme.com/searchinternethistory

Yeah going to have to chip in a twenty at least for this.

The whole idea of whats going on here is so dangerous its not even funny. If you know someone who is somehow resistant to getting upset because they think its just a stupid porn thing and an overreaction, try to sell them on it from a national security standpoint. Military personnel, politicians, judges, police.. anyone in a position of power and all of their families are now open up to blackmail.

 

[Phoenix RISING]

Minnesota blocks the attempt on a state level in response: https://www.privateinternetaccess.c...rotections-response-repeal-fcc-privacy-rules/

#StatesRights

 

[Piecake]

Hopefully blue states like NY/CA follow.

Minnesota's state legislature is actually controlled by Republicans, so there is hope that more states besides blue states do this at a state level

 

[Caayn]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a5314b56a08_story.html?utm_term=.0786eaa3df71

Opinion piece written by, Ajit Pai, the chairman of the FCC and, Maureen Ohlhausen, acting chairman FTC defending the new rules.

 

[Magwik]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a5314b56a08_story.html?utm_term=.0786eaa3df71

Opinion piece written by, Ajit Pai, the chairman of the FCC and, Maureen Ohlhausen, acting chairman FTC defending the new rules.

Skimmed real quick but is there any real meat to it other than blaming Obama?

 

[Caayn]

Skimmed real quick but is there any real meat to it other than blaming Obama?

It boils down to blaming Obama and them finding it unfair that companies such as Google and Facebook are allowed to sell data while ISPs aren't allowed to sell it. While putting it under the "we're doing it for your protection" banner.

Let's set the record straight: First, despite hyperventilating headlines, Internet service providers have never planned to sell your individual browsing history to third parties. That's simply not how online advertising works. And doing so would violate ISPs' privacy promises. Second, Congress's decision last week didn't remove existing privacy protections; it simply cleared the way for us to work together to reinstate a rational and effective system for protecting consumer privacy.

 

[The Chosen One]

What annoys me Republicans have made a huge issue of privacy and leaks with this supposed "unmasking" of names in intelligence data. Yet literally at the same time a green light a huge anti-privacy bill that will literally affect every American, not just those that talk to foreign targets.