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[walking fiend]

But stuff like that seems insignificant. Would you consider FFXII IZJS a remake because of all the added/tweaked content?

to me:

Remake: as good as a decent current gen game
Remaster: as good as high res earlier game

OOT looks good by 3DS standards, and much better than the N64 version; you can't achieve it using any kind of simulator tweak, etc.
if FF X looks nearly as good as FF XIII, I would say a remake; if only as good as high res simulator output, remaster


or put other word:
remasters: are like PC games that you play at a forced higher res as the systems have advanced

 

[zerokoolpsx]

*Puts on my shocked face.* There I'm shocked.

 

[Clear]

As a production, X is not even approaching the scope of XIII. Certainly, it's the better game, but SE could very comfortably remake it with the XIII quality assets.

I can't say I agree with that statement.

The big difference between X and XIII is that X has a load of side-content, an area XIII was severely lacking in.

Just consider how differently acquiring aeons/summons is handled in X and how many there are of them, the number of bonus dungeons, all the celestial weapon mini-games, Blitzball, the monster arena challenges, cactuar quests, al bhed dictionaries and jecht spheres to collect, etc.

FFX was a big game to 100%, and if you add the extras from the International Edition (Dark Aeons and alternate Sphere Grid) which no doubt will make it into the remaster... its even bigger.

 

[Edvardelis]

FF X gave you an airship you couldn't fly and a world map with locations and POIs.

A lot of times those POIs were a random chest you'd see on top of a hill as you went by. Yep, you couldn't jump up there you had to use the airship and land in that exact spot.

FF X-2 expanded it somewhat by allowing you to jump.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

But stuff like that seems insignificant. Would you consider FFXII IZJS a remake because of all the added/tweaked content?

I'd consider it a rerelease with new content. If FFXII IZJS had been released on 360 instead, with new models, all new HD textures and Kinect gesture/voice support, I'd consider that something else.

 

[ULTROS!]

But that's the point.

It's supposed to be awkward.

Maybe people thought they were actually laughing at that part.

I had no problems with it (because it was obvious that those laughs were fake)... I only had a problem with the crow laugh.

 

[StuBurns]

The big difference between X and XIII is that X has a load of side-content, an area XIII was severely lacking in.

None of those things have huge physical requirements. I'm not saying FFX isn't the bigger game in practice for the player, just in physical size I think XIII is way larger.

So far, XIII-2 is looking to be much closer to X in that sense.

 

[walking fiend]

Maybe people thought they were actually laughing at that part.

I had no problems with it (because it was obvious that those laughs were fake)... I only had a problem with the crow laugh.

You mean they weren't, seriously?!!

 

[entremet]

I hope they give you the option between the old sphere grid and the International version. The International Version sounds wack.

 

[H_Prestige]

I hope they give you the option between the old sphere grid and the International version. The International Version sounds wack.

I think the international version itself allowed the option to play with the original grid.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

But that's the point.

It's supposed to be awkward.

Yes. I've said this before, but this was one of the scenes that helped convince me it was a worthwhile change to put voice into FF--I wouldn't have understood the scene the same way reading the text alone.

 

[DanielJr82]

It's awesome either way, bring it over asap.

 

[DR2K]

Good, we'll see it this year.

 

[Auto_aim1]

FFX was a big game to 100%, and if you add the extras from the International Edition (Dark Aeons and alternate Sphere Grid) which no doubt will make it into the remaster... its even bigger.

Content wise - it took me 160-180 hours to do everything that was in FFX (International ver), including getting a ribbon based armour for all the characters. FFX is clearly bigger when it comes to the actual amount of content available, but FFXIII had a lot more areas and was much bigger in scope.

I hope they give you the option between the old sphere grid and the International version. The International Version sounds wack.

Yes, it gives you a choice to pick one when you start the game. But it's only advisable to pick expert sphere grid if you have at least beaten the game once, otherwise it's easier to mess up your characters. Also, you can only get 78-80k HP for all characters with the default sphere grid. Expert grid has more nodes I think.

 

[zeelman]

Will this version let me skip the cutscenes? I really don't want to watch them again.

 

[.JayZii]

Maybe people thought they were actually laughing at that part.

I had no problems with it (because it was obvious that those laughs were fake)... I only had a problem with the crow laugh.

It's just that so many people have seen it out of context, it doesn't matter that it made sense in the game.

 

[Loudninja]

FFX today is still impressive looking to me.

So a HD remaster sounds great.

 

[Deadly Monk]

If XII gets a remaster...my life will be complete.

 

[H_Prestige]

Will this version let me skip the cutscenes? I really don't want to watch them again.

The game really needs a skip scene option. As does KH1.

 

[michaeltraps]

Good to hear, honestly - we might see it sooner rather than later. I'm way more excited for this than I should be, being it's only a remaster but FFX is my favorite in the series. I cannot wait to replay this, especially if it has the extra content of the international version.

 

[Elginer]

As many have said give me XII. That's the one that really deserves an HD remaster.

 

[PerZona]

I was actually dreaming of a remake, but guess reality slap me back to a HD remaster instead. Will definitely pick up both versions though, FFX is my favorite FF game of all time <3

 

[demosthenes]

Can they just ask if it's the International version :|

 

[Clear]

I'm not saying FFX isn't the bigger game in practice for the player, just in physical size I think XIII is way larger.

Yeah, you're probably right.

It has to be said that simply making the in-game areas bigger and longer is atrocious design practice. What always struck me about XIII was the feeling that you could chop up that game-world into discrete chunks/levels, scramble them about randomly and have pretty much the same overall impact.

Given the quality of the assets (well up to franchise standards) it felt like such a waste.

 

[Toth]

I personally did not feel FFX needed a remake. The International version fixed several problems with the game already. I would happily settle for an HD makeover.

 

[Clear]

Actually I think I've just realized why the levels are so over-large in FFXIII; the battle sequences actually take place in them rather than the bespoke mini-stages that are loaded up every time combat starts in FFX.

Seems like the old story of "smart" production economics having unexpected consequences for the gameplay.

 

[Fersis]

FFX today is still impressive looking to me.

So a HD remaster sounds great.

Not trolling but man did FFX had an annoying cast or what? Yuna, Tidus, Wakka, etc
Auron was the only cool character.

 

[StuBurns]

Actually I think I've just realized why the levels are so over-large in FFXIII; the battle sequences actually take place in them rather than the bespoke mini-stages that are loaded up every time combat starts in FFX.

Seems like the old story of "smart" production economics having unexpected consequences for the gameplay.

That's actually not the case. You still play in 'battle screens', they just more often match where you were.

 

[Tylahedras]

great... now put it on a disc with at least one other game and we'll talk.

 

[epmode]

Not trolling but man did FFX had an annoying cast or what? Yuna, Tidus, Wakka, etc

I remember liking Wakka because his voice acting didn't make me want to die IRL.

 

[ULTROS!]

Not trolling but man did FFX had an annoying cast or what? Yuna, Tidus, Wakka, etc
Sauron was the only cool character.

If FFVII-FFIX were voiced, we'd probably get annoyed too.

... Did many people get annoyed with the speaking cast at Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus?

 

[StealthGoblin]

Not trolling but man did FFX had an annoying cast or what? Yuna, Tidus, Wakka, etc
Sauron was the only cool character.

 

[DR2K]

FFX had a pretty amazing voice cast. Mostly hit. Lulu and Auron especially.

 

[AranhaHunter]

If you buy FFX on PSN, do you have to buy two versions or can you buy once and download on PS3 and PSV?

 

[Fersis]

LOLZ

Fixed my typo. Thanks!

 

[enzo_gt]

And it will still take them like 4 years to put it out.

 

[DR2K]

If you buy FFX on PSN, do you have to buy two versions or can you buy once and download on PS3 and PSV?

Can you play remasters on the PSV? If not, then either an update has to happen or you would need to buy 2 seperate versions.

 

[Kyoufu]

I wouldn't be surprised if they did a bundle for both versions. Not sure what the price would be but I'd buy it.

 

[Samyy]

Day one - this was my first ff game and I loved it.

 

[Pinko Marx]

Not trolling but man did FFX had an annoying cast or what? Yuna, Tidus, Wakka, etc
Auron was the only cool character.

How was Auron cool when he didn't say or do anything?
Wakka is the best.

 

[Elios83]

I've never expected a remake but I still hope that there are a few optimizations.
For example there is no reason not to use the high poly models for the main characters in every situation.

 

[Synless]

If they use the good character models throughout the whole game I will not be disappointed, of not than I will be pissed.

 

[Auto_aim1]

How was Auron cool when he didn't say or do anything?
Wakka is the best.

He did say a lot of things. Did you miss the entire

Spoiler

motivational speech before Yunalesca fight?

Besides, his character design was really good.

 

[Kyoufu]

Only optimisation I hope for is to allow access to Anima before encountering Dark Valefor.

 

[Clott]

Wait, people actually thought they were doing something from the ground up?

 

[Clott]

How was Auron cool when he didn't say or do anything?
Wakka is the best.

Well the silent characters tend to be the ones with most to say, so when they open up it's pure badassery.

 

[CambriaRising]

I can honestly say that this news has lessened my excitement for this game.

Spoiler

Still buying

 

[brotkasten]

Wait, people actually thought they were doing something from the ground up?

Read the old threads, people were crazy enough to believe it, even though they never said it, iirc.

 

[badcrumble]

Only optimisation I hope for is to allow access to Anima before encountering Dark Valefor.

You can already do that if you do the Cloister of Trials right the first time.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

I overwhelmingly prefer this option to a remake, because it gives Square less of an opportunity to fuck it up.

And frankly, it doesn't need a full remake.