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Sonic Forces - Casino Forest gameplay
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James Scott
Banned
Heres lost world in comparison
I think it may reuse some assets like the squares on the pillars, but its not very flattering in Forces.
Colores are really drab. Just kind of ugly. LW was a 60fps Wii U game too.
I think it may reuse some assets like the squares on the pillars, but its not very flattering in Forces.
Colores are really drab. Just kind of ugly. LW was a 60fps Wii U game too.
R10Neymarfan
Member
Except that the mania team can cover that. Which leaves Sonic team with nothing
One day I hope, because it sounds horrible. It doesn't sound remotely similar to any of the drum samples they used in the original 16-bit games.
lol
This is enough for me not to buy this game. They just don't get it why physics matters in Sonic gameplay.
Dead End Irony
Member
Man the classic Sonic gameplay seems eerily soulless. It's got no personality or charm. Shit just does not seem fun to play. At this point, I'm hoping I can mildly enjoy 25-30% of Forces.
More gifs. Wow, I was one of the first ones saying the 2D gameplay looked rough back when we only had a couple of seconds of Green Hill footage.
Now that we have plenty of uninterrupted footage the game looks even worse. What the fuck happened? 6 years and we get this? Did half of the current Neo Sonic Team get fired? Did Sega replace them with cheap college graduates?
What the fuck happened, man? Lol
Now that we have plenty of uninterrupted footage the game looks even worse. What the fuck happened? 6 years and we get this? Did half of the current Neo Sonic Team get fired? Did Sega replace them with cheap college graduates?
What the fuck happened, man? Lol
Finally something new. It's still doing nothing for me though. I had it preordered but I'm gonna cancel it and wait on reviews and impressions. I haven't liked anything I've seen beyond the villain team up. Gameplay and stage design have looked just awful so far and the avatar is such a dumb idea that has the bonus of having super shitty boring looking gameplay.
I feel like they had to have been working on a more ambitious game that didn't work out so they slapped this thing together in a year or so. It just looks so poor and lazy.
Also stop making the 3D Sonic games like 50-70% 2D gameplay.
I feel like they had to have been working on a more ambitious game that didn't work out so they slapped this thing together in a year or so. It just looks so poor and lazy.
Also stop making the 3D Sonic games like 50-70% 2D gameplay.
EternalWolf
Neo Member
Maybe one day
Exotoro
Member
Maybe one day
this looks fucking nightmarish
Caffeine
Member
Maybe one day
i feel like they could add some red and yellow leaves instead of just brown
LinkSlayer64
Member
Maybe one day
This looks cool, and reminds me of the leaf level/section in TOMBA!
Maybe one day
Funny enough when Dimps did Sonic Generations 3DS and remade this zone, they actually did a better job at hitting that classic gameplay compared to what Sonic Team did in the HD game. It wasn't perfect but it was closer.
Strange isn't it?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
100%, this looks shockingly terrible. or like, this looks like the shorter gimmick levels from Sonic Colors. Which was fine except that that game was also 50% bespoke fancy levels as well, and so far this game is...not
Azure Dream
Member
Oh wow, I hadn't seen that Forces gif. Sonic dropping like a rock.
What's really irritating is that, even if it launched poorly, they could conceivably rework and fix Classic Sonic stages and gameplay in patches. Like Naughty Dog does. But they won't.
Yeah, it was a weird side-effect of them outright lifting stage layouts from prior games. The layouts didn't work right if the physics didn't. Unfortunately from Emerald Coast on, the layouts become clunky messes filled with Homing Attack spots, even for Classic Sonic.
What's really irritating is that, even if it launched poorly, they could conceivably rework and fix Classic Sonic stages and gameplay in patches. Like Naughty Dog does. But they won't.
Yeah, it was a weird side-effect of them outright lifting stage layouts from prior games. The layouts didn't work right if the physics didn't. Unfortunately from Emerald Coast on, the layouts become clunky messes filled with Homing Attack spots, even for Classic Sonic.
Unless there is some kind of specific point to make, this would be simply be classified as a derail.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Except it hasn't. These were complaints before Sonic Mania ever existed with games like Episode 4, and even Generations.
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
Cheaper to shit out 2.5D levels than create more 3D stages.
Aka, the same old shit that this series has been going through since 1998. Sega knows they can't sell a 90-minute game and doesn't want to spend money to make a decent amount of 3D levels, so we get gimmicks and filler.
There's something amazing about Classic Sonic being the "shitty friend" though hahaha
This looks terrible. Its weird because this game had the longest development time than any previous 3D Sonic game yet they cant make it any better? One day they will maybe make a decent 3D Sonic game but this is certainly not it. It barely looks better than Unleashed a game that released in 2008.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Because Generations and Colors were legit fun
Nevermind Mania, Forces is looking bad even when compared to Generations, not just the classic stages, but the modern stages as well.
Nexus Zero
Member
I was considering giving this a chance. But yeesh. When Mario is coming out and every trailer drips with genius, why would I ever buy this? Fool me thrice...
Skullwaker
Member
I really enjoyed Colors and Generations, but I can't say any footage of this game has made me excited. It looks like it's lacking care and polish. I think I'm gonna pass.
I'm just really curious why this looks so damn bad? Like, if they had a new art team, or if the developers were just pressed on budget it would make sense. But the Green Hill level that they showed looks perfectly fine, which is why this level feels so jarring.
That does not inspire confidence, to say the least.
I kinda liked the music at first, but then I heard it 3 more times and I was over it. The instrumentation used in a lot of Forces tracks really bugs me. I do not like the electronic elements of most songs so far, but this one was okay because it had less of that. On the other hand, it still sounds like an improved Sonic 4 song, which is not a high bar, so...
The level itself looks very dull gameplay-wise, there's really nothing to it other than bumpers, rings, slots, and more rings. Visually it gives me war flashbacks to two unpleasant Lost World levels at the same time. The concept is neat on paper, but the execution is very basic. I wonder if the Modern/Avatar stages in this area will play with it a bit more to make it interesting.
Fuckin' thisssss. There's nothing thematically interesting about this level's design. It's just casino pieces, but in a forest now.
cireza
Member
I tolerated it in Generations (but it was already awful for sure) but this time I am getting seriously annoyed by how bad these physics are.
Especially when we got Mania recently, that did it right.
I agree. Sonic Generations on 3DS was, somehow, pretty fine even it was not a 1/1 with the original physics (and they also put the homing attack I think lol). But overall, the stages were fun and played fine.
Roufianos
Member
I've nearly finished Mania and it's ok. I definitely don't understand how people are naming it GOTY and giving it 8s and 9s.
Still, I'd take it over this shit any day.
Zomba13
Member
Yup. After Generations all I wanted was for Sonic Team to just latch onto that formula and throw out another one or two. It was the best 3D Sonic game and the 2D stuff felt good (not Mega Drive perfect, but it was enjoyable). Now we are getting another Generations style game and it just seems to lack everything that made that game so good.
The platform is 3D, but the terrible lighting is hiding the top side.Edit: There are zero enemies in this. Also what's going on here?
James Scott
Banned
6 years? Sonic Team put out LW in 2013.
Weird that it and Odyssey took the same amount of time
LightningXCE
Member
It was moreso the fact he was running, then immediately stopped to start "falling" on the lip.
What is with the constant hidden springs? These are never fun and make absolutely no sense to be invisible here.
Why does sonic not drop rings?
Also what the hell is this garbage???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewEWCUjq5CE
Edit: Damn, I see it was already posted.
I think the problem is the angle. That way he can not stand it.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Those classic Sonic physics don't look right. I don't remember those problems in Generations, at least not as common as to show up in a couple minute video.
The level design is so boring as well. No enemies, just random Casino Night props poorly blended into a generic forest. Like something from a level editor, just random floating bits around a vague theme, but not really.
The music is awful, Sonic 4 tier off brand Genesis sounds.
I thought this game might be "alright" in the same way Sonic Adventure 1, 2 and Heroes are alright, but this looks not really great at all.
The level design is so boring as well. No enemies, just random Casino Night props poorly blended into a generic forest. Like something from a level editor, just random floating bits around a vague theme, but not really.
The music is awful, Sonic 4 tier off brand Genesis sounds.
I thought this game might be "alright" in the same way Sonic Adventure 1, 2 and Heroes are alright, but this looks not really great at all.
60fps and having to develop the game for multiple platforms. The game does not look that bad graphically gameplay wise, but it's not amazing either. I also think sega's trying to aim for 1080p 60fps for both the xbox one and ps4 versions of the game. It clearly looks better then ps3/360 unleashed and ps3/360 generations even though some of the cutscenes we seen so far are kinda lacking.IGN's clip of the level is higher quality.
Diablohead
Member
Unleashed is one of the best looking 3D sonic games, it's hard to match.
Yeah. Especially in the cutscenes.
Green Mamba
Member
This isn't just bad, it's grotesque. If you can't get the physics right in a Sonic game you aren't going to get anything right.
lol
R10Neymarfan
Member
The is that Unleashed was also multiplatform as well. Granted it was only between two consoles instead of four platforms, but the PS3 did reach 60fps for Unleashed in some areas. If they can't surpass Unleashed in terms of graphics it's because they purposely opt for the lower art style. Maybe because of budget or workload. Who knows
Maybe it was a sacrifice they made to make the game run smoothly. Having dozens of rings bouncing all over the place probably won't do much good for the framerate, especially on the Switch, which apparently doesn't perform well as it is.
Supaidaman
Member
The last time Sonic Team got the physics right on a Sonic game they actually developed was in 1994.
Not a new thing for sure but Mania releasing so recently has certainly made this more noticeable
It'd be nice if they could rip assets out of there instead of Generations and Lost World...
LightningXCE
Member
Changing an established, core game mechanic to "make a game run smothly" is a terrible design decision if true. I mean, christ, you don't take the coins out of Mario, or the nuts/bolts out of Ratchet and Clank.
And since when has Sonic Team been concerned about locked framerates and performance? Sonic Unleashed on the PS3 says hello.
I am a massive Sonic fan, and a fan of both Sega and Sonic Team, but this just feels like yet another rushed, incomplete, and almost incompetent title with a team that doesn't really have a grasp on the franchise, formula, or main mechanics that make Sonic games have that magical touch. The fact that there was so much control and safeguarding with Sonic Mania, and not this (an """official""" game) is very telling.
Since Sonic Lost World. But while I didn't really like that game's art, they at least made a simplified art style that looked visually appealing. Three zones that were in all games -
This game doesn't seem to be compensating for its lack of detail with anything, and is just content in looking like a worse Generations.
Corrected.
Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles were developed by Sega Technical Institute. I doubt many members originally from Sonic Team that moved there are with Sonic Team today outside of Iizuka and a few key members maybe (educated guess).