I see a lot of infamous2 and ratchet&clank guns in SS0. It seems to be a common opinion, do you really not see it?
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Splatoon and Sunset Overdrive are the most important games this generation
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I see a lot of infamous2 and ratchet&clank guns in SS0. It seems to be a common opinion, do you really not see it?
Very true. I think that is a big deal when discussing SSOD is that it doesn't try to take itself seriously, which happens too much these days.
GeordieMark
Member
I honestly don't think Bloodborne will be a massive seller, no matter how good it is.
It's too niche.
Guns yes. It is an open world title, that is all I see similar to Infamous.
Sunset Overdrive is important because it is an Xbox exclusive that looks like a B tier Nintendo game, which is RIDICULOUSLY cartoony and colorfull and "kiddy" for an Xbox exclusive =P
...which is kinda sad because is that kinda of game that I expected Microsoft to have WAY MORE when they bought Rare =/
...which is kinda sad because is that kinda of game that I expected Microsoft to have WAY MORE when they bought Rare =/
Bright-Light
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"most important" is quite a bold and dramatic statment.
I completely agree that Splatoon's gameplay looks unique, and game's art style is ace. I am really looking forward to it. I have my fingers crossed that it maintains an active community. I intend on playing the shit out of that game.
As for SO, art syle is a bit grotesque, graphiclly i think it looks great. Gameplay wise it just looks like Ratchet and Clank, but with a douchebag instead of Lombax. Which is not a negative in my book, I LOVE R&C, so anything that plays like it is always gonna be DAY 1 purchase. But yeah, i think i will love it, but "most important"? No, its nothing new.
I completely agree that Splatoon's gameplay looks unique, and game's art style is ace. I am really looking forward to it. I have my fingers crossed that it maintains an active community. I intend on playing the shit out of that game.
As for SO, art syle is a bit grotesque, graphiclly i think it looks great. Gameplay wise it just looks like Ratchet and Clank, but with a douchebag instead of Lombax. Which is not a negative in my book, I LOVE R&C, so anything that plays like it is always gonna be DAY 1 purchase. But yeah, i think i will love it, but "most important"? No, its nothing new.
Iva Demilcol
Member
Since the ps2 era gray/blue/brown graphics became a thing in AAA games. Slowly, we saw some efforts by different studios to avoid that trend.
I'd love SO an Splatoon became a trend in terms of art direction, that way we'd see the return of the best game series of all time
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I'd love SO an Splatoon became a trend in terms of art direction, that way we'd see the return of the best game series of all time
Jet Set Radio
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
But it's not Jet Set Radio!
Sure the game's colorful, but do you buy a game based on how colorful it is, or actual gameplay and design?
There's nothing unconvential about Sunset Overdrive's travel methods. We've alreay seen wall running, power line surfing, and rail grinding. And Ratchet and Clank already brought us the wacky weapons.
Same lol.
thewhitehawk
Member
I disagree.
While Splatoon might be the most original of the two, I see it as little more than a shooter with cool gimmick. It's far more interesting than most shooters are, but that isn't to say Splatoon is very strong in terms of creativity, it just means that in most shooters very little creativity has been put to make a unique experience.
Sunset overdrive from what we've seen so far seems like it's little more than something like Infamous/Prototype but with an aesthetic that is closer to something like Jet Set Radio. Sure, it's colorful and quite an attractive fan, and given the developer, it's likely that it will have satisfying gameplay and hopefully witty writing.
But most important? I haven't seen a single publication who's holds either of those titles in as high regard as you do. If you were to ask me which games will be the most important of this generation right now I'd put my bets on No Man's Sky, Xenoblade Chronicles X and possibly the new Legend of Zelda. Those are games that aim to expand their respective genre either with massive scopes or redefining what the genre or franchise has been until now.
I'm fairly sure Sunset Overdrive will be a nice title and one of the better, if not the best, reason to own an Xbox One, but in the scope of this entire generation which has barely begun, I don't think it will be very relevant and Splatoon, while seemingly fun has yet to prove itself. The reasoning you're using to justify your opinion doesn't make them important, just different.
While Splatoon might be the most original of the two, I see it as little more than a shooter with cool gimmick. It's far more interesting than most shooters are, but that isn't to say Splatoon is very strong in terms of creativity, it just means that in most shooters very little creativity has been put to make a unique experience.
Sunset overdrive from what we've seen so far seems like it's little more than something like Infamous/Prototype but with an aesthetic that is closer to something like Jet Set Radio. Sure, it's colorful and quite an attractive fan, and given the developer, it's likely that it will have satisfying gameplay and hopefully witty writing.
But most important? I haven't seen a single publication who's holds either of those titles in as high regard as you do. If you were to ask me which games will be the most important of this generation right now I'd put my bets on No Man's Sky, Xenoblade Chronicles X and possibly the new Legend of Zelda. Those are games that aim to expand their respective genre either with massive scopes or redefining what the genre or franchise has been until now.
I'm fairly sure Sunset Overdrive will be a nice title and one of the better, if not the best, reason to own an Xbox One, but in the scope of this entire generation which has barely begun, I don't think it will be very relevant and Splatoon, while seemingly fun has yet to prove itself. The reasoning you're using to justify your opinion doesn't make them important, just different.
Leafhopper
Banned
More than likely. I just hope it's a PC game among the 2.
I can't remember a game like it that let me bounce on cars, etc.
Ol No Bones
Banned
B tier Nintendo game. Lol
Violence Jack
Member
Agree on Splatoon. I've played some multiplayer demos of SO already. While it can be fun, it's very repetitive. Good game? Probably. Important game? I don't think so. It reminded me more of Crackdown + Tony Hawk + Borderlands.
That sounds like a huge positive for me.
.....woah. That had never crossed my mind.
GluedOnBeard
Member
In terms of art style and direction definitely. I think I will enjoy Sunset but it isn't my sort of game.
I really hope we see less gritty games this gen and more games in the vein of Banjo, Viva Piñata, Sunset, Jet Set Radio, every Nintendo game in existence.
Getting sick of seeing so many games going for realism as I much prefer to watch a movie than play a realistic game. (It is also why I am worried about the graphical direction Uncharted is going in as I liked the art style of previous games).
Actually art style is very important to how much you may enjoy said game, the more realistic a game is the less I generally enjoy them. Obviously it needs gameplay and good game design to back it up too.
I really hope we see less gritty games this gen and more games in the vein of Banjo, Viva Piñata, Sunset, Jet Set Radio, every Nintendo game in existence.
Getting sick of seeing so many games going for realism as I much prefer to watch a movie than play a realistic game. (It is also why I am worried about the graphical direction Uncharted is going in as I liked the art style of previous games).
Actually art style is very important to how much you may enjoy said game, the more realistic a game is the less I generally enjoy them. Obviously it needs gameplay and good game design to back it up too.
Revolutionary
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There's an absolute 0% chance either game will be important to the generation as a whole. I'm really not sure how someone can even come to that conclusion.
baxter2231
Member
After seeing the sunset overdrive commercial it looks like infamous with a different color palette, not very creative from that perspective. Art direction i would agree.
Dragon Puncher
Member
Splatoon's take on the multiplayer shooter is pretty interesting, but even if it's succesful I doubt it'll have much impact besides maybe giving Nintendo more incentive to delve in the genre some more.
Nothing about Sunset Overdrive seems truly new. It's a lot of elements we've seen in other games in a slightly different package.
Nothing about Sunset Overdrive seems truly new. It's a lot of elements we've seen in other games in a slightly different package.
EagleNoble
Banned
One thing I've noticed on my short time here at GAF is that people will always consistantly downplay and talk negatively about even the most fun-looking games, if those are part of the console/system that isn't the current status quo. It happened last generation, it is happening this generation and it will happen next generation.
They're just games. Instead of being so critical and judgmental, just relax and have fun with it for a change.
They're just games. Instead of being so critical and judgmental, just relax and have fun with it for a change.
Its missing high quality, tasteful art design.
qa_engineer
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Opinions are great, man. But I completely disagree.
Art style speaking .. the gameplay looks very polished from what I saw
Other than No Man's Sky the games you mentions are merely refinements of what has come previously. I'm looking forward to all of them and they might even sell better but for most potential impact on the most popular genre of video games they are most certainly not.
I'm not saying that Splatoon and Sunset Overdrive will even be my favorite games of the generation. I'm saying if they are received well they have the potential to change the direction of two very popular genres.
Have you played SO and Splatoon?
Iva Demilcol
Member
I'd love that Jim Sterling see this thread and make a video about the topic XD
He made a similar video claiming that Viva Piñata was the best looking game of the previous generation!!!
He made a similar video claiming that Viva Piñata was the best looking game of the previous generation!!!
TheOnePercent
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OP is putting to much importance on color. Just because a game is colorful doesn't make it good, and just because a game is dark doesn't mean it can't be visually striking.
With you on this one. I'm biased though - can't stand the punk aesthetic.
Exterminieren
Banned
I see Splatoon as far more important to Nintendo than to the wider industry. That game is at the vanguard of a new generation of designers coming through the company, and if it's even a minor success we might see a significant change in how Nintendo develops its games in the aftermath. Unfortunately, being on the Wii U kneecaps any chance it has of directly influencing the rest of the industry.
Sunset Overdrive... it looks really fun, but it's far more evolutionary than revolutionary. It's picking up influences from many games (Infamous, Ratchet and Clank, Jet Set Radio, etc) and wrapping them up in an appealingly colourful package. May well be successful, but not the stuff that turns the industry on its head.
Sunset Overdrive... it looks really fun, but it's far more evolutionary than revolutionary. It's picking up influences from many games (Infamous, Ratchet and Clank, Jet Set Radio, etc) and wrapping them up in an appealingly colourful package. May well be successful, but not the stuff that turns the industry on its head.
I completely agree w/ you.
TheSlySoul
Member
Viva Pinata was one of my favorites in the last generation.
No Man's Sky also looks really good.
That being said, I do agree realistic games can look good indeed. It just does not excite me personally.
Portugeezer
Member
Get ready for your important games to sell poorly then.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
But there is no speculation, you jumped to the conclusion that these games are important.
Not played either yet. Both seem decent not seeing anything special them in comparison to the other games that we know about I this generation so far.
I'd be willing to put money on the fact that over the next 7 or 8 years of this generation there will be more than a few games on each console that do more than these.
Another one I haven't played but I wouldn't be surprised if No Man's Sky beat the living crap out of these two!
I'd be willing to put money on the fact that over the next 7 or 8 years of this generation there will be more than a few games on each console that do more than these.
Another one I haven't played but I wouldn't be surprised if No Man's Sky beat the living crap out of these two!
Omnistalgic
Member
exactly...
why through sunset overdrive in this conversation is what I don't agree with. It's literally a combination of recent games we've played with a a bunch of color.
Other than that...the market will go where the money is...
Well, you could do that in Second Son too.I remember doing it by accident many times for both civillians and enemies, while just trying to jump around. The car exploding after that didn't helped either.
More games should have it.
I haven't played Second Son (only played some of the original Infamous), but I'd be very surprised if what you're describing bare any real similarity to my example. The top of the cars aren't just some platform with some flexibility, They are legitimately jump pads... like jumping on a spring in Sonic. You can't stand on the top of one for example.
It's complete nonsense, but the game does it anyway, because it's the best purpose they could find for cars you can't drive.