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Strange opinion: The Hateful Eight is the best movie from Quentin Tarantino
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Jackie Brown is the one for sure~
CountAntonius
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I love all but deathproof.
Saint Gregory
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Eh... Once Upon A Time In The West is one of my favorite movies ever and I'm really not feeling the parallel. While it was senseless it fit Fonda's psychotic character to murder the family in that scene but in H8 it never really made sense to me why they needed to kill the staff (and yet leave the old general alive :/) when simply being there as guests stuck in the blizzard with the staff alive would have raised a lot less suspicion. I guess it was a forced solution to have the movie be about the Hateful Eight and not the Hateful Eight and unnecessary side characters but I really didn't feel like it added anything to the film to go back and show us how they pulled it off.
I think a lot of the film works really well but some aspects of the story were clunky and needed more polish. I was lucky enough to catch one of the 70mm showings and it was a great experience. I have to give Tarantino respect for the dedication to shoot a movie on that medium in the age of digital.
Yep that was a... not very good movie, terrible by Tarantino standards.
So which movie isn't a correct answer then? Deathproof?
The perfect Dark
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I can see where you're coming from but isn't it pretty much the same? Fonda murders the family because ...you know why ^^. The gang in The Hateful Eight murders all of the characters because they want to free 'her'
They have a reason. Both of them. Both gangs are bad no matter what they want to achieve. Both
mass murders
MooseKnuckles
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I really liked H8 and it is probably the film of Tarantino's that has stuck with me the most after viewing, but I don't know if it's his best film. The implication of the final scene/shot is incredibly cynical, but it really worked for me.
Any conversation about which of his films are the best is always a reminder that (even if his style isn't to your personal taste) the man is an absolute master of his craft. His ability to wring every ounce of tension out of a scene, constantly building while also subverting the audience's expectations is a genuine joy to watch unfold.
Any conversation about which of his films are the best is always a reminder that (even if his style isn't to your personal taste) the man is an absolute master of his craft. His ability to wring every ounce of tension out of a scene, constantly building while also subverting the audience's expectations is a genuine joy to watch unfold.
i will say the second half of TH8 is QT's strongest material after Pulp Fiction. He was absolutely firing on all cylinders.
I don't know how that movie ended up being so overlooked. Perhaps if he condensed the first half & released it earlier there would have been a much stronger reception? Between the score, cinematography, that fire script, and Goggins/Jackson/Leigh/Dern that movie was out of this world.
I don't know how that movie ended up being so overlooked. Perhaps if he condensed the first half & released it earlier there would have been a much stronger reception? Between the score, cinematography, that fire script, and Goggins/Jackson/Leigh/Dern that movie was out of this world.
Probably. Deathproof gets a lot of hate even though for many directors it would be their best film. Quentin is just held to a higher standard, for understandable reasons.
Death Proof is so damn boring. It was boring as part of the Grindhouse double feature and even worse when it was standalone released.
Stuntman Mike and the car chase are worth the price of admission, but it's probably his most self-masturbatory dialogue wise and that pulled it right down.
Saint Gregory
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Well
Fonda ultimately wanted to steal their land which was way easier to do when they're dead 
I probably need to watch H8 again and see if I still feel the same way about it. Kill Bill is probably the only one of Tarantino's films that I didn't adjust my opinion on after multiple viewings. I actually hated Jackie Brown the first time I saw it and now it's my favorite of his movies.
BadAss2961
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The "that n***er there" never knew Abraham Lincoln scene is my favorite in the movie.
itwasTuesday
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Bob
I've seen far worse, but in the context of Quentin's work I can't disagree.
I love H8, but it's Inglorious Basterds by far for me, followed by Pulp Fiction. Tarantino is my favorite director though, I've seen all his movies so many times.
I think Tarantino himself thought so as well, at least at the time. I always took the last line from Aldo after marking Landa, "I think this might be my masterpiece," to be a sort of 4th wall breaking thing.
soundscream
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I just saw this for the first time yesterday, while I wont say its his best its better than I was lead to believe. Really enjoyed it.
Evil Monkey DTT
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OP, I couldn't agree with you more. That monologue alone was one of the most perfect moments in film history.
Yeah, forgot to say I agreed with you there. It wasn't the worst thing at all, but for him it just felt like it was half-baked.
MooseKnuckles
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Yeah I think that's definitely what that was. I remember seeing an introduction Tarantino recorded for a showing of There Will Be Blood, where he basically said that film was so good that he wanted to make a film that could compete with it, and IB was his attempt at that.
Found a link: https://youtu.be/jsUOHbhsq1I?t=8m11s
andythinkpad
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I would said its the worst.
Tied with that toe movie.
Tied with that toe movie.
ElMexiMerican
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Of the handful I've seen, it's definitely one of the more enjoyable. Was very surprised after watching Django and really not liking it.
Best movie probably written over a weekend because the deadline was that weekend. But yeah, it was terrible. Big mistake to have it as the second movie of a doubleheader after Planet Terror which was all sorts of fan service.
What did he mean by this?
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I checked out at the unneeded flashback to gross pointless violence that gave 0 new information about the plot and interrupted the pace of the movie, again, just to for violence
Buba Big Guns
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Hateful 8 is right under Inglorious and the Kill Bills
Yep, or Django, followed by Inglorious Basterds.
QuantumSquid
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Tarantino is overrated, violent crap.
You can flame me as you wish.
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wanderingprostheyltite
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Jackie Brown and RD for me. Second is one of the best films for rewatches, shit never gets old. Brown has amazing pacing, and is one of the best films I've seen period. God tier acting from Forster.
Killer Queen
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Wouldn't say best but it's definitely amazing and maybe top 3 of his.
blame space
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death proof owns
Rumblebones
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I love this film so much I won't fault anyone for thinking it. Top 3 Tarantino film for me.
Samuraicop
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Kill Bill is my favorite swords down, I think Inglorious Basterds is his best made film
Hateful eight was great but isn't in my top of his films. I really want more Tarantino gifs posted
Hateful eight was great but isn't in my top of his films. I really want more Tarantino gifs posted
KyanMehwulfe
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Felt it was a bit imperfect in pacing to be quite near the top, but it's actually grown on me and a lot higher than I would have expected after the first viewing. Every time I watch it, the acting and dialogue wins me over more and more.
And for me, it's especially the cinematography and score that I love... I'm not a fan of the broader pacing of the story, but I love the way the cinematography and score pace and build tension in specific isolated scenes.
For me, it's been a film that I've loved to re-watch 15 or 20 minutes at a time. Kinda similar to Pulp Fiction in that regard. I'm a really big fan of RD and Django as complete pictures (and obviously PF in this regard to), but I always really enjoy watching just parts of PF and TH8.
And for me, it's especially the cinematography and score that I love... I'm not a fan of the broader pacing of the story, but I love the way the cinematography and score pace and build tension in specific isolated scenes.
For me, it's been a film that I've loved to re-watch 15 or 20 minutes at a time. Kinda similar to Pulp Fiction in that regard. I'm a really big fan of RD and Django as complete pictures (and obviously PF in this regard to), but I always really enjoy watching just parts of PF and TH8.
ZackieChan
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Never got the love for Jackie Brown or IB. Both meh-tier films with some great scenes.
He'll never top Pulp Fiction, but Kill Bill and Django come close. Hateful Eight is somewhere in the middle. Never saw Death Proof.
Secret best film is From Dusk Til Dawn. My favorite thing he's worked on. God tier Tarantino and Rodriguez.
"I may be an asshole, but I'm not a fuckin' asshole."
He'll never top Pulp Fiction, but Kill Bill and Django come close. Hateful Eight is somewhere in the middle. Never saw Death Proof.
Secret best film is From Dusk Til Dawn. My favorite thing he's worked on. God tier Tarantino and Rodriguez.
"I may be an asshole, but I'm not a fuckin' asshole."
Gnome Scat
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Not my favorite but I enjoyed it very much.
It's so close between Inglourious Basterds and Hateful Eight for me. I think I give the edge to Inglourious Basterds for "gorlami", oh and the whole scene in the bar with Fassbender being German and holding his fingers wrong.
IIRC it was written as a stage play, so it makes sense that reading the script would be enjoyable. Though I've heard when Tarantino writes scripts for action it's super tedious and over-detailed.
IIRC it was written as a stage play, so it makes sense that reading the script would be enjoyable. Though I've heard when Tarantino writes scripts for action it's super tedious and over-detailed.
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