Yeah, Sagat isn't with Shadaloo too. I think he meant anyone who used to be affiliated with Shadaloo, vera via.
Ah, got it. I would think with a Bison/Shadloo themed staged though there would at least be a doll or new character in.
Yeah, Sagat isn't with Shadaloo too. I think he meant anyone who used to be affiliated with Shadaloo, vera via.
Has Capcom said anything about Ken being in the game?
Has Capcom said anything about Ken being in the game?
Has Capcom said anything about Ken being in the game?
I hope that means sakurai isn't in this.Not yet. Combofiend said they're shying away from clone-type characters this time tho.
He was indeed talking about former shadaloo members (sagat, boxer, claw, birdie).
I agree, Capcom needs some SF4 original characters in the roster, and they don't really have a choice here:
- Fuerte : wont happen, like ever. Unpopular and gameplay that doesnt belong in a SF game.
- Rufus: unpopular Yun ersatz.
- Seth : unoriginal mess of a boss. And supposedly dead?
- Decapre : even if she plays differently, she is above all a Cammy clone. And we already have Nash for teleport shenanigans.
- Abel : may be possible, but no very popular, and if they want the brawler/grappler archetype odds are they will go for Alex instead (popular and SF3 main protagonist).
- Viper: kinda popular, gameplay not really fitting in a SF, I think they would have a hard time adapting her to SF5. But could be possible.
- Juri : Very popular in West and East, one of the few successfull designs of SF4 (gameplay wise), naturally fits in SF5 with fengshui engine as her VTrigger.
I sincerely have a hard time imagining how she would not be in the game.
At this point the less SF4 characters the better, we had to deal with them for 6 years and none of them were that interesting (you're missing Hakan from your list). Abel had an interesting play style but his character was boring. So Juri wins by default lol..
Ah, got it. I would think with a Bison/Shadloo themed staged though there would at least be a doll or new character in.
Sakura isn't a clone? You could say her Tatsu works mostly the same beyond EX but everything else is very mechanically and visually different and all her normals are unique.I hope that means sakurai isn't in this.
At this point the less SF4 characters the better, we had to deal with them for 6 years and none of them were that interesting (you're missing Hakan from your list). Abel had an interesting play style but his character was boring. So Juri wins by default lol..
You forget Hakan! ;_;
Unlike Fuerte, Viper have a neutral game that isn't just a brainless guessing game. Her bullshit start after the first hard knockdown, but I did mention that it would not work now, so like everyone who made it into SFV, her gameplay can be changed to fit the game. Out of all SFIV original characters, she's the one who get pushed the most by Capcom, wouldn't be surprised if she made the cut early, though I doubt she'd be part of the initial roster.Both characters are about getting one hit into endless oki guesses. SFV is moving away from this, and to focusing on the neutral instead. Oki games are minimal. These characters don't even work outside of that meta. Imagine a C. Viper where Seismo and Burn Kick don't cause knockdown.
If he doesn't make into the initial roster he'll be in the first batch of DLC characters for sure.Damn what are the chances of guile getting in? He is always been my main ever since sf2.
You forget Hakan!
And leaving too many popular characters off the initial roster for DLC can backfire in their face. Just look at the people talking about Ken. Everybody wants their favorite(+) to be in the game.
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Sakura isn't a clone? You could say her Tatsu works mostly the same beyond EX but everything else is very mechanically and visually different and all her normals are unique.
Viper could work if they shift her more torwards her MVC3 version than SF4
If he doesn't make into the initial roster he'll be in the first batch of DLC characters for sure.
I imagined it could be the case but went in like a fool anyways lol
He said Sakurai, the creator of Smash Bros. People always gave him hard time when he added clone characters to the roster.
I'm not claiming anything, it's purely speculation, but with Nash being around plus having a brand new gameplay I'd imagine Guile being a lock for story reasonsman, you seem to know a lot. do you work at capcom?
Capcom never really managed to make it work. I doubt they will bother for SF5.
Hakan is my main, but seeing Birdie's tools makes me seriously doubt we'll see hakan in 2016, he'll maybe be a season 2 / 3 character, but that's a pretty timid maybe.
I absolutely love him, played him since Super and have stuck by him, but yeah I think we'll probably see Juri > Abel > Viper and even Rufus before him.
It's cool though, Birdie seems to borrow an awful lot from him, the oil lives on.
man, you seem to know a lot. do you work at capcom?
You forget Hakan! ;_;
why do people keep linking Abel to Charlie and Guile. Abel said he recognises the Sonic Boom move. well it's obvious he is talking about Seth's Sonic Boon, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Abel and Seth are related being weird clones. Guile and Charlie have nothing to do with them.
why do people keep linking Abel to Charlie and Guile. Abel said he recognises the Sonic Boom move. well it's obvious he is talking about Seth's Sonic Boon, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Abel and Seth are related being weird clones. Guile and Charlie have nothing to do with them.
Because the Sonic Boom Abel saw wasn't Seth's but from the soldier that nursed him back to health when he escaped Shadaloowhy do people keep linking Abel to Charlie and Guile. Abel said he recognises the Sonic Boom move. well it's obvious he is talking about Seth's Sonic Boon, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Abel and Seth are related being weird clones. Guile and Charlie have nothing to do with them.
He didn't even know who Seth was until the end of his story
Honestly, what are the chances we see Abel again? Absolutely loved maining him IV and I think he would be awesome in SFV engine. But seeing that poll of character popularity definitely sunk my heart a bit. I'm betting on Nash's heavy involvement in the story of this game (since he was the basis of Abel and Guile's entire motivations in IV) would bolster Abel's chances a bit.
Sakura isn't a clone? You could say her Tatsu works mostly the same beyond EX but everything else is very mechanically and visually different and all her normals are unique.
Pic?All I want... ALL I WANT, is for Cammy to have that alt shadaloo costume from the alpha games PLEASE JESUS!
Nah. She's a clone variant along with:
- Ken
- Akuma
- Gouken
- Dan
- Sean
We don't need Sakura in V.
Sakura isn't a clone? You could say her Tatsu works mostly the same beyond EX but everything else is very mechanically and visually different and all her normals are unique.
If Alex is in Abel is out. They are definitely different, but I think they play too similar for what Capcom seems to be going for.
We're not revealing the total roster count just yet," said Dahlgren. "What we can say is that we're putting a strong focus on making sure that every character put into the game is very unique and has their own individuality.
We certainly do need Sakura in V, and anyone who says we don't is a bad person. She most certainly varied up and refined her moveset after years having gone by.
Nah. She's a clone variant along with:
- Ken
- Akuma
- Gouken
- Dan
- Sean
We don't need Sakura in V.
We don't need Sakura in V.
Nah keep her out. We already have cammy and she's gonna be annoying enough.We need Sakura in V so that she can not be wearing a school uniform, and actually go out with a little dignity.
Ryu and Sakura. Male and female. There are your shotos for the game, and they'd play different enough to make things interesting.
What kind of phrase is "clone variant"? All those characters mentioned in your list play completely different from one another so they aren't clones.
Also, Sakura (along with Sean) represents the next generation of fighters in the Street Fighter universe. How are we supposed to view Ryu's growth as a fighter if we don't have someone to compare him to? Sakura fits that role perfectly.
Either way, Sakura is super popular in both the east and west so her inclusion is a safe bet.i hope
Nah keep her out. We already have cammy and she's gonna be annoying enough.
Their normals aren't unique. Ryu and Ken share 90% of their normals, Akuma less so but still a lot of overlapping. Their fireballs and DPs have the same purposes with balance variance.Sakura is as much a clone as any of the shotos. All of the Shotos are mechanically and visually different. and their normals are unique.
Nah keep her out. We already have cammy and she's gonna be annoying enough.
Cammy has left/right mix ups now with auto correct Hooligans and Spin KnucklesAnnoying how?
Plus, I never asked for Cammy back! *heh*
No evil or "violent" alterations of the characters please, even if they play differently. That's lazy, and if Capcom does take that path they should replace the vanilla versions of characters with their darker self, not cheap out on us by "adding" another character. If they want to add evil versions of characters like 2 years from now then whatever, but not the initial roster or for the next year. New original models please.The SFV Roster should be
Ryu
Ken
Akuma
Gouken
Sakura
Sean
Oni
Violent Ken
Evil Ryu
None of these are clones as they all have different mechanics, properties to their specials as well as different normals.
If we get Sean he better throw basketballs.
Their normals aren't unique. Ryu and Ken share 90% of their normals, Akuma less so but still a lot of overlapping. Their fireballs and DPs have the same purposes with balance variance.
Sakura and Gouken are not shotos gameplay wise.
Every leak list had Juri, so I hope they announce her soon.
After SDDC, we can expect another announcement at EVO, right ?
Also, about the beta, can we play indefinetely or just a few hours determined by Capcom to test their servers ? I really want to make the pre-order to get the beta, but not to play only a couple of hours and the wait the release.