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Orayn said:
Yeah, this is what I'd like to know too. Being "sexualized" isn't necessarily a negative or exploitative thing, depending on the game or character and context.
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Strong (not sexualised) female characters in this generation?
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Yeah, this is what I'd like to know too. Being "sexualized" isn't necessarily a negative or exploitative thing, depending on the game or character and context.
The problem with this thread is that even if a lot of female characters are heavily sexualized, most of the ones that pop into your head are "strong" to some capacity or another.
Hence, you still get cases where people are posting stuff like Sheva, who had some very clear time and effort put into her butt sway animation but is a "strong" female.
Hence, you still get cases where people are posting stuff like Sheva, who had some very clear time and effort put into her butt sway animation but is a "strong" female.
Orayn said:
Same here. Because being 'sexy' or having an identifiable sense of sexuality are not in themselves a bad thing.
The women in Gears, Shinobu and a couple of others are very good examples of how misguided the 'not sexualized' criteria is.
With that said, there are obvious limits...
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AppleMIX said:
Mhm. They made the changes to her to show off skin. Also: normal women wear swimsuits, does that then make the women of DOA not sexualized? Silly.
She has a super sexy dance thoughRickenslacker said:Oh how could I forget? Kat from Halo: Reach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvJGQRYOYmg
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Mechazawa said:
Definitely. She's super sexualized.
Yeah, I mean, what if a character is well written and fleshed out within the context of the story, but is also used for fanservice? Does that somehow invalidate everything else?BigJiantRobut said:
Valve made changes to Chell's appearance to show the passage of time and represent how she's more free in Portal 2 than in the original.Sunflower said:
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Nariko from Heavenly Sword
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Orayn said:
If used for fanservice, yes, that'd invalidate them from being strong -and- sexualized. Gotta be both.
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Sunflower said:
You're comparing promotional artwork to a game where you can dress up perfectly built and beautiful women, make them do poses and photograph them from every angle?
Not that I think Chell should be included in this thread, she's barely a character, but that's what you think is oversexualized?
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Glass Rebel said:
Not oversexualized, but definitely sexualized. There's a huge difference between, say, Tina from DOA and Chell from a visual standpoint and outfits, but both are made to appeal to loins.
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Sunflower said:
What does "sexualized" even mean? Are we only allowed to post Amish women or something?
I mean, Bayonetta is absolutely a sexed-up character, and that game operates from and for the male gaze, but I don't think that invalidates her as a strong female character.
Acquiescence
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A top-tier character in the right hands. Once you grow accustomed to her idiosyncratic fighting style, she dominates.
Sunflower said:
Ehh.
DLC aside, I would not say 'super.'
The level she is sexualized begins AND ends at her character design. Not to mention that she is evenly matched with her male counterpart in terms of design goals.
With that said, Sheva would not be a strong character even if she looked like Margaret Thatcher; there is absolutely no substance to her.
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AgreedKinyou said:
Should have been the first post. Imho the most believable strong female character created so far.
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Jerk said:
I agree, one of the reasons Chell shouldn't be in here anyway, despite her looks!
Alma from the FEAR series.
They aren't a bad thing. You can tell Anya is in a relationship with Marcus in Gears, but she isn't all flirty with him or saying things to boost the player's ego. She also doesn't move like she's working a run way are do feminine looking acrobatics that you see other female characters do. Compare that to Lightning who does most of those things and is basically a tsundere character. Or Alyx whose sole purpose is to boost the player's ego.Jerk said:
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Sunflower said:
Now you're just trolling.
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Sunflower said:
Would you have said the same if that had been her design from the beginning or are you just taking her look in P1 as the baseline? Because honestly, this doesn't look sexualized at all to me:
Bayonetta is the queen of gays with her camp, OTT sexuality - I don't think she's wank fodder like the DOA girls.
Also, making a girl wear "skimpy" clothes does not equal "sexualization". If that is the case then Chris Redfield is sexualised to hell and back in RE5 as much as Sheva is (the bulging biceps, the tight clothing, the swagger walking, the alternative costume straight out of a gay fetish sex club night).
Also, making a girl wear "skimpy" clothes does not equal "sexualization". If that is the case then Chris Redfield is sexualised to hell and back in RE5 as much as Sheva is (the bulging biceps, the tight clothing, the swagger walking, the alternative costume straight out of a gay fetish sex club night).
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The drunken sniper / ranger / whatever she is from New Vegas is pretty good too.
This generation has actually been good for female characters come to think of it.
This generation has actually been good for female characters come to think of it.
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Glass Rebel said:
I can see her boobs. She's sexualized.
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keep said:
But he is sexualized to a huge degree.
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The Scythian. Strong, determined, and hair that didn't stop for no one.
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Elena, sure, but Chloe? Game begins with her and Nathan Drake having sex... nothing wrong with that, but her sexuality seems like a major focus of the character.
Elena, sure, but Chloe? Game begins with her and Nathan Drake having sex... nothing wrong with that, but her sexuality seems like a major focus of the character.
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I think part of the problem with this thread is a lot of people think someone who doesn't dress like a slut = not sexualized. It isn't that simple.
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Let's face it. Females in games are always there as a side attraction to male protagonists or as attractions themselves. Not to mention any female character has been sexualized by a species of nerd at a given point in time.
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yeah, the new lara croft seems to be the opposite of strong. i know that she's been pierced through the gut in the video, but the developers are really keen on talking about how vulnerable she is, to a really creepy degree. even though she wore skimpy clothes in legends/anniversary/underworld, she at least talked with intelligence and knew a lot about ancient cultures. this new lara is gonna set female characters back once again, i predict.
