*rimshot*God's Beard said:Shadow Star
It's full of more holes than Sonny Corleone at the end of the Godfather.
fireside said:Descendants of the ancient kingdom Professor Clover was talking about which was wiped out by what would become the World Government.
Xux said:Oh shit. I thought it was meant to be ironic or something.
Pimpwerx said:One Piece: Fantastic way for WB to go out. I'm confused, though. Did he intentionally spare Teach's life? I see a couple people mention that in this thread, but none of the translations suggest that.
Pimpwerx said:It seems logical to me that Jimbei take Luffy to the closest, safest place, and that's Fishman Island, which should be in chaos now that WB is dead.
Rewrite said:cosmicblizzard, you are NOT making me want to read Katekyo Hitman Reborn again. Uuuuuggh.
God's Beard said:Shadow Star
Just finished this series. It's immature, arbitrary and most of all, makes no goddamn fucking sense. It's like things happen in response to other things that the author never decided to mention. It's full of more holes than Sonny Corleone at the end of the Godfather. I get the feeling that this is how Axe Cop would have turned out if it was written by a battered child. And after all the bitching about how it was heavily censored, the changes were absolutely inconsequential. I kept thinking that there was going to be some sort of context, but then the series just ends. It wants the reader to think it's like End of Evangelion, but it's not. Not even close. If anything, it's Pokemon meets Veritas.
I thought it was going to pull an awesome twist when they killed the main character, but then they revived her like 5 pages later, with no explanation. I was waiting for her to just wake up in the lake from the beginning and it was all a dream as she drowned to death. Total waste of time. 2/10
I guess I'll start on the Seinen everybody recommended for me, but Bokurano just got kicked to the very bottom of the list.
He does have a beard and it keeps growing longer and fuller.cntrational said:One Piece
Given that Whitebeard's official English name is, well, "Whitebeard", I'm guessing the whole thing is a pun on having mustache/beard be the same word in Japanese, but different words in English. For that matter, Blackbeard doesn't even have a beard or a mustache!
Himuro said:BLACKBEARD
If it helps, there's no difference between the censored and uncensored versions. It's just hype. Sill a shitty, shitty manga.cosmicblizzard said:I really wanted to read it but like you said, it was all cut up and censored.
Kintaro said:Whoa. Back up. This is the same Blackbeard who captured Ace to begin with. Same Blackbeard who used the Marines to gain access to form a fearsome crew. Just because "the strongest man in the world" whupped his ass, he "isn't that tough?" He took Ace's best attacks head on and beat him. The same Ace people in this very thread thought could stand up to any of the Admirals (we quickly found out the answer to THAT one didn't we?).
Lets not go crazy here and forget what he managed to pull off.
The only difference is that the arc is much more focused on Takagi rather than Mashiro. It's not like it was Shujin's idea to do a gag manga in the first place; we've been lead to believe from the beginning his strong point was cult-series. I don't much care for how much they are canonizing Hattori; we're being led to believe that if Hattori was their editor instead of Miura, Ashirogi would be like beating Naruto in the polls.Versipellis said:Bakuman
I really like how the climax develops in this chapter: the intial doubts slowly grow into a real outburst driven by frustration. It's a pity the authors are using some elements we have seen before in the series (like Shujin's writer's block and his allnighters). What's strange is that we haven't seen any issues with Mashiro's work, as of late, while Shujin is taking the role of Ashirogi Muto's weak spot, since it's like he's still being unable to fully adapt to a long running manga series.
I find it funny that the chapter revolves around Shujin's search for a catchphrase (among other things), and we see Niizuma using something like a "signature sfx" (Shupiiin) in the last pages.
Oh, and Eiji and Hattori are the scene stealers once again.
The art seems a little subpar to me (and this is not the first time).
Versipellis said:Bakuman
One Piece
I still think this arc dragged too much, but this ending chapter was really really good (much better than Ace's death - but is he really dead?). My only (minor) gripe is about the "list" of attacks WB withstood. If it's something like the narration of a myth passed on from pirate to pirate, then ok, but if it's intended as a "fact", it dangerously puts itself in the narrow boundary that exists between "being epic" and "being ridicolous" (even for the world of One Piece where the same man still fights on with half of his head destroyed by lava).
Maynard later examined Teach's body, and noted that he had been shot no fewer than five times, and had about twenty severe cuts on his body. He also found several items of correspondence, including a letter to the pirate from Tobias Knight. His decapitated corpse was then thrown into the inlet, and his head suspended from the bowsprit of Maynard's sloop (to enable the reward to be collected).[
My only (minor) gripe is about the "list" of attacks WB withstood. If it's something like the narration of a myth passed on from pirate to pirate, then ok, but if it's intended as a "fact", it dangerously puts itself in the narrow boundary that exists between "being epic" and "being ridicolous" (even for the world of One Piece where the same man still fights on with half of his head destroyed by lava).
Danielsan said:I'm rather new to the world of manga.
I read Solanin in January and absolutely loved it and immediately became a fan of Inio Asaso.
I ordered the first volume of What a wonderful world this week but I'm also looking to get Nijigahara Holograph. However, I can't find it anywhere.
Has it been released in English and if so, where can I order it?
Come on I doubt even Whitestach can take Magellan's poison.watervengeance said:Oda sure went out of his way to show that Blackbeard's pretty much a pussy without his DF powers. He got whooped by Magellan easily last time and almost got two-shotted by Whitebeard this time.
Relaxed Muscle said:yeah, yeah, but he was beaten by WB, which had half his face melted, was stabbed, was sick and he didn't even have his powers, so the coward had to call his crew to help him take WB because he's a pussy, at least Akainu was badass enough to melt part of his face.
Yeah. The whole scene before in the bar, with the argument over which food was best was just to show them as polar opposites. But they've both got tremendous ambition and ability to become Pirate King.Shanadeus said:Regarding Blackbeard, he's an amazing antagonist to luffy
They are so similar:
Yet so different.
I suppose that he is "evil" whereas Luffy is "good", but I never really got the feeling that he was that bad (well that was before he attacked whitebeard, even the duel with Ace was just)
Will be interesting to see where oda will take him, definitely one of the most interesting shounen antagonists at the moment (sasuke lol)
Steroyd said:The "facts" were over his whole 20+ years as a pirate, not this arc.
I liked him more during his first appearance, when he really was the evil specular image of Luffy. As the character developed, he seems to have lost his "dreamer" (D. ? Nah...) trait. I fear that his DF powers are somewhat hurting his role of Luffy's presumed main antagonist.Regarding Blackbeard, he's an amazing antagonist to luffy
They are so similar, yet so different
It's just that putting WB glorious death right after Ace's seems to put in the shadows the latter (not for Luffy, of course). Or maybe it's just odd that Oda, after 570+ weeks, finally wrote the death of a character and he did not only once, but twice in just a few chapters.Ace is dead.
Just like every other anime bad guyHimuro said:You mean like Arlong, who tortured Nami for years, killed her mother, tore her family apart, and ruined her island?
Or Captain Kuro, who bided his time for years just so he could befriend a rich man and his family, manipulate them in order to gain their trust and finally gaining their fortune through murder?
Or Crocodile, who was willing to destroy one country for his own selfish goals, parading as a hero the whole time?
Or Enel, who has super powers enabling him to rule over a land as their God, smiting anyone who smoke ill of him or didn't act in a way he supported?
Or how about Spandam or Lucchi?
I just don't see it. One Piece has the best villains in any shounen manga of this type. Goofy is one thing, but the villains in One Piece tend to always have ulterior motives, are cunning and smart. Blackbeard just takes this to another level.
Door2Dawn said:Just like every other anime bad guy
Himuro said:You mean like Arlong, who tortured Nami for years, killed her mother, tore her family apart, and ruined her island?
Or Captain Kuro, who bided his time for years just so he could befriend a rich man and his family, manipulate them in order to gain their trust and finally gaining their fortune through murder?
Or Crocodile, who was willing to destroy one country for his own selfish goals, parading as a hero the whole time?
Or Enel, who has super powers enabling him to rule over a land as their God, smiting anyone who smoke ill of him or didn't act in a way he supported?
Or how about Spandam or Lucchi?
I just don't see it. One Piece has the best villains in any shounen manga of this type. Goofy is one thing, but the villains in One Piece tend to always have ulterior motives, are cunning and smart. Blackbeard just takes this to another level.
Damn right man! Watch some punk smoke in Enel's face and get smoked!Himuro said:Or Enel, who has super powers enabling him to rule over a land as their God, smiting anyone who smoke ill of him or didn't act in a way he supported?
Himuro said:I think they're more than just badasses to me, but I agree Blackbeard vs Luffy is the best rivalry in the series.
Sipowicz said:teach is a fantastic villain but more importantly he's a fantastic character. he's also a hilarious goofy dumbass
he's amoral and conniving but he's not a coward by any means and he shows genuine concern for his crew like luffy. he also shares luffy's belief in fate and dreams and strives to become pirate king
he's an excellent contrast to the fascistic moral absolutist akainu. these two are the best villains so far in one piece and this is a manga that gave us the likes of kuro/arlong/lucci
he's quite unique as far as villains go. notice he has NEVER attacked luffy or anyone else out of spite . it's only ever to fulfill his plan or if someone starts with him
SirFodderton said:So is Ace/Whitebeard going to go cyborg now like kuma?
Entropia said:What? No. They aredead.
God's Beard said:Shadow Star
Just finished this series. It's immature, arbitrary and most of all, makes no goddamn fucking sense. It's like things happen in response to other things that the author never decided to mention. It's full of more holes than Sonny Corleone at the end of the Godfather. I get the feeling that this is how Axe Cop would have turned out if it was written by a battered child. And after all the bitching about how it was heavily censored, the changes were absolutely inconsequential. I kept thinking that there was going to be some sort of context, but then the series just ends. It wants the reader to think it's like End of Evangelion, but it's not. Not even close. If anything, it's Pokemon meets Veritas.
I thought it was going to pull an awesome twist when they killed the main character, but then they revived her like 5 pages later, with no explanation. I was waiting for her to just wake up in the lake from the beginning and it was all a dream as she drowned to death. Total waste of time. 2/10
I guess I'll start on the Seinen everybody recommended for me, but Bokurano just got kicked to the very bottom of the list.
I hope this doesn't happens. Ace and WB should stay dead. OP needs to move on with Luffy acting like a main character again. I felt like Oda meant this Chapter to be the halfway point of the series.flawfuls said:Oh man, zombie Whitebeard would be awesome.
Perona has these ghost like powers that made the target super depressed when it contacts.bjork said:Has there been a villain that uses ghosts or hallucinations in OP? I know Thriller Bark was zombies. But I don't remember any ghosts or visions.
Sipowicz said:they're badasses but they have their own unique quirks that make them particularly chilling.
kuro and lucci were both incredibly cold, calculating and vicious. arlong was just a horrible vicious creature. crocodile was a cold calculating powermad crimelord. enel was an arrogant nutcase.
teach is more interesting though because he has some genuinely decent characteristics, he's a buffoon and he's not particularly vicious or evil. just amoral
Ballistictiger said:Perona has these ghost like powers that made the target super depressed when it contacts.
probably not, but getting touched by Perona's ghosts could cause him to remember how he failed to save Ace, producing a similar effect. Perona's ghosts seem to remind people of their inadequacies and failures.bjork said:Yeah, but what I mean is like, could she make Luffy "see" Ace in the middle of a battle or something, to get inside his head?
Wiseblade said:probably not, but getting touched by Perona's ghosts could cause him to remember how he failed to save Ace, producing a similar effect. Perona's ghosts seem to remind people of their inadequacies and failures.
Relaxed Muscle said:Taking WB with his full crew because he was so scared for his life was truly a such bravery act.
neoanarch said:What makes BB vs Luffy so great is that the only real difference between them is that BB is a schemer and a coward.
Sipowicz said:what else could he do? he would have got his ass kicked. well he did get his ass kicked. it was either die or get his uber powerful crew to step in. he was smart to do that just like he was smart to plead for his life as a "son".
and he's no moron, just a bit of a buffoon. as kintaro said he's made more progress than any other character in one piece since it started and he hasnt even been in since the start
as a D if he knew there was nothing he could do to avoid his death he'd smile, but if there's anything he can do he'll try it. no matter how despicable
people say blackbeard's a coward but he invaded impel down and faced magellan head on. he told his crew to hide while he took on the second divison commander of the whitebeard pirates alone and in extreme pain. he does cowardly stuff but he's not a coward. not by any means
lets also not forget he fought a yonkou head on BEFORE he had a devil fruit, and he managed to give him a permanent scar
luffy's big weakness as a captain is his lack of planning, forethought and tact. he's learned a valuable lesson in this arc and hopefully he'll think thingss through in the future
bjork said:I thought WB said BB isn't a true D?
He is A D, but not THE D Gold D. Roger was waiting for.bjork said:I thought WB said BB isn't a true D?
neoanarch said:he's a coward compared to Luffy and everyone else in OP we would consider the "good guys". I think its safe to call him cowardly if he begs for his life, attacks a half dead man and hid himself for decades behind Whitebeard until he got what he considers the ultimate power.
neoanarch said:In the same sense you would call a someone not a real man. At least thats the way I read it. I'll wait for an official or stephen translation to be sure.