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The South Carolina Primary & Nevada Caucuses |Feb 20, 23, 27| Continuing The Calm

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Tom_Cody

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Trumps lead has been declining this week. Averaging out all the polls shows this trend:

Tuesday: Trump +17
Wednesday: Trump +16
Thursday: Trump +13.25
Friday: Trump +9.8

Based on this, and the fact that his decline is accelerating, i put this race very close. I'm giving it to Trump by +2, but i think there's a chance it could go either way as those last minute holdouts make up their minds

Hope Trump can pull it out by at least 8. Otherwise the media will have a field day.

#prayfortrump
I think the more dramatic indicator will be his overall percentage. He got 35% in NH. Obviously the dynamics of the two states are different, but I think anything less than that will really drive the narrative that most of the party won't accept him. Especially if Rubio and/or Cruz make strong relative showings.

Further, given the extremes Trump reached this week (called the Pope "disgraceful", "Bush lied, People died", etc), it will set the narrative that there is an actual limit to what Trump can get away with. Similar to the move of skipping the Iowa debate, it will be clear that his antics have damaged him in the eyes of the party as whole.
 

Makai

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Trumps lead has been declining this week. Averaging out all the polls shows this trend:

Tuesday: Trump +17
Wednesday: Trump +16
Thursday: Trump +13.25
Friday: Trump +9.8

Based on this, and the fact that his decline is accelerating, i put this race very close. I'm giving it to Trump by +2, but i think there's a chance it could go either way as those last minute holdouts make up their minds
Recent poll with 3,500 respondents give trump +15
 
I think the more dramatic indicator will be his overall percentage. He got 35% in NH. Obviously the dynamics of the two states are different, but I think anything less than that will really drive the narrative that most of the party won't accept him. Especially if Rubio and/or Cruz make strong relative showings.

Further, given the extremes Trump reached this week (called the Pope "disgraceful", "Bush lied, People died", etc), it will set the narrative that there is an actual limit to what Trump can get away with. Similar to the move of skipping the Iowa debate, it will be clear that his antics have damaged him in the eyes of the party as whole.

Something like 30-19-17 would still be a great result. SC doesn't actually have the best demographics for Trump.

All the Fox News shows were defending Trump against the Pope. So did Bush and Rubio iirc. Not sure that will hurt him too much. But I get what you're saying.
 

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You can tell that someone isn't experienced at games when they say Seymour, any form, actually gave them trouble. You can literally just build up your aeon overdrives and release them one after another.

Sorry for tangentially related comment >_>
 

CDX

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So Caesars Palace for Hillary I guess.
 

Tom_Cody

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Something like 30-19-17 would still be a great result. SC doesn't actually have the best demographics for Trump.

All the Fox News shows were defending Trump against the Pope. So did Bush and Rubio iirc. Not sure that will hurt him too much. But I get what you're saying.
You're probably right, but I'm just anticipating how the press will react.

Trump's poll avegrage went from +20 to +13 in the week since the debate. It is my guess that even if he wins by his recent polling margin of +13, the press will paint it as a loss. I mean, the biggest news story coming out of Iowa was Rubio's 3rd place finishing. The press doesn't always make sense.
 
Crazy turout here in NV. Well above expected. Lines out the door. Folks almost done registering and getting in the rooms.

NV Dem party HQ is an fn madhouse.
 
jon ralston was just on MSNBC. Basically saying too close and the turn out is big. Interesting that the demographics are basically the same from 2008.

Also, we need to have a law that for voting you get a certain amount of time to go participate, and in caucus states, you need 3 hours or so I would say, because of line and the longer process.
 

royalan

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Yeah, it's a damn shame that a significant number of people might not be able to participate in the process of electing our government officials because they have to work. Something really needs to be done about that.
 
Voting should be a week-long process when it comes to the general election, give everyone an ample time to vote, and keep the results secret until the cut off time. (preventing exit-polling from leaking out would be important too)
 

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Voting should be a week-long process when it comes to the general election, give everyone an ample time to vote, and keep the results secret until the cut off time. (preventing exit-polling from leaking out would be important too)
I'll be taking advantage of this during early voting in TX. I'll be out of town on the actual day of election.
 
Normally I'd agree. But NV is heavy service industry. Saturday would probably be a worst day to have an election.

People want drinks and gambling and shows damnit!
Many caucus sites were at casinos locations. Folks still in line at Caesars were just told to stay there and they can be late for their shift. "This is important."
 
I don't know how much faith to put into CNN's entrance polls but they say over 60% of caucusgoers are over 45. If that holds Hillary could win NV by double digits.
 
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