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The Tales of Symphonia PC-Port is a mess!
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15 minutes. Including figuring out when and how they get drawn.
Admittedly, I could only do it that quickly since I'm quite familiar with cel shading approaches of that era (what they do is render the mesh again scaled out and with inverted culling).
Awesome.
I much prefer the game with the outlines.
15 minutes. Including figuring out when and how they get drawn.
Admittedly, I could only do it that quickly since I'm quite familiar with cel shading approaches of that era (what they do is render the mesh again scaled out and with inverted culling).
Since people are asking about the framerate: if it's possible at all, that would most likely take more time than I'm willing to invest on this game.
This looks amazing!
GhostTrick
Banned
15 minutes. Including figuring out when and how they get drawn.
Admittedly, I could only do it that quickly since I'm quite familiar with cel shading approaches of that era (what they do is render the mesh again scaled out and with inverted culling).
Since people are asking about the framerate: if it's possible at all, that would most likely take more time than I'm willing to invest on this game.
Seriously, did you ever thought of opening a porting company ? You'd do a fuckin better job than a lot of these people.
I'm guessing unlocking the framerate would require tinkering with the executable, so even if someone went through the trouble of figuring out how to do that without completely breaking the game, it would still require shipping a cracked exe as well, meaning it would a) get taken down and b) possibly get the modder into trouble. (The DRMs only job is to prevent changes to the exe, after all, even it is apparently easy to circumvent.)
GhostTrick
Banned
texhnolyze
Banned
Perhaps I'm the minority here, but I personally don't.
It has that nostalgia feeling though. Nevertheless, great job from Durante, as usual.
15 minutes. Including figuring out when and how they get drawn.
Admittedly, I could only do it that quickly since I'm quite familiar with cel shading approaches of that era (what they do is render the mesh again scaled out and with inverted culling).
Since people are asking about the framerate: if it's possible at all, that would most likely take more time than I'm willing to invest on this game.
You are fucking amazing.
It's beautiful ;_;
It didn't have this weird anti-tamper BS. They could (and did?) effectively write a patch-file that changes certain parts of the exe, but doesn't have to include it. So in copyright terms, everything is fine. But I'm not so sure you can just include a modified .exe that is freed from the DRM.
YianGaruga
Banned
15 minutes. Including figuring out when and how they get drawn.
Admittedly, I could only do it that quickly since I'm quite familiar with cel shading approaches of that era (what they do is render the mesh again scaled out and with inverted culling).
Since people are asking about the framerate: if it's possible at all, that would most likely take more time than I'm willing to invest on this game.
unreal
I'm almost tempted to buy this now
at 50% off
if they remove the DRM
YianGaruga
Banned
It's something I guess
texhnolyze
Banned
Someone claimed that he made a 60fps fix with Gedosato, lol.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/372360/discussions/0/412446292755065221/
Oh, he edited the guide's title and description.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/372360/discussions/0/412446292755065221/
Of course it's not working.
Oh, he edited the guide's title and description.
texhnolyze
Banned
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
"We know that 720p isn't an optimal experience, so now enjoy the game in glorious 480i, as it was originally meant to be played."
texhnolyze
Banned
It's a preference. As you can see, some folks here do prefer the outlines.
They'd better make a toggle for character outlines. That'll be perfect for everyone.
Indeed. I think it looks far better with those thick outlines like the original, so a toggle would be the best option.
The outline was how it was originally intended, and it makes the characters stand out more.
that's not funny
It's still better than saying "Experienced issues with Tales of Symphonia on Steam? Durante's working on it! Please check NeoGAF for more details."
Lmao
What's the DRM they use called? Sounds fucking absurd, it creates the actual game .exe again every time the game's launched or something?
GhostTrick
Banned
Seriously, I don't get why they just don't contact Durante and let him fix this for money. That's called contracted work. I'm willing to bet that with source code access, he'll be able to do it in 1 hour and make it a good port. Sheeeeesh.
Sounds stupid. Why go out of your way to acknowledge and pay someone for their work when they're more than willing to do it for free?
GhostTrick
Banned
Well... the logic would call that: Having the work done officially, rolling out with official patch, and not turn around and mods... but who am I kidding ?
If they were 1% serious, we wouldn't have run into these issues
JonathanPower
Member
It's all for the money.
well there is VMProtect dll in game folder , the normal exe has traces of Securom and the hidden exe created in temp has traces of Denuvo .... i guess some kind of DRMception mix
Chairmanchuck
Member
But instead of paying their port team to fix the port (I also think thats contracted work), why not contact Durante before the release of some japanese games for a small QA for some money.
I mean even if he didnt want to do it, asking would be a nice gesture.
I think Durante is kinda popular now when it comes to japanese PC game ports/fixes. They have enough money to buy some shitty DRM for a decade old game that everyone can already play on PC for free, if they want, but not do proper QA...
Thats the sad thing.
So why not do proper QA before? What they are doing now is actually what people who bought the game should at least expect.
This game had no QA at all from what I can see.
Look at small studios like Ghostlight Games or XSeed/Ifactory. For a lot of their games there is a closed beta available where such problems can easily be talked about and then fixed.
That sounds all kinds of fucked up
I am giving Bamco some slack. Why do you think I'm joking instead of posting up a serious pissfest?
The original had to deal with low resolution, though. In HD characters don't need that to stand out.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
I prefer the outline itself since that's how the game looked when I first played it. It adds to the game's character
Huh, that's really cool. I always wondered what the process might be after I've heard you say a few times that a 'toon' shader is one of the more simpler things to implement. Thanks for the info.
ussjtrunks
Member
Durante should msg um his fix on twitter so they can use it as a basis to fix the game... *(blatently steal it)*
Except the outlines were removed from the PS2 version, which is what this port is based off of.
15 minutes. Including figuring out when and how they get drawn.
Admittedly, I could only do it that quickly since I'm quite familiar with cel shading approaches of that era (what they do is render the mesh again scaled out and with inverted culling).
Since people are asking about the framerate: if it's possible at all, that would most likely take more time than I'm willing to invest on this game.
That looks great. Apart from the 30 FPS lock, the PC port is now easily the best looking version thanks to the roughly 60 minutes (?) you spent with the game. Hats off to you, sir.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
yeah, the fixes make this the definitive version of the game for me. Even if a 60 fps fix never comes out, I think i'd be okay with how the game is now.
No thanks to bamco, of course. I don't even understand releasing the game in this state, they had all the time in the world and this is the shit tier product they chose to put out there
No thanks to bamco, of course. I don't even understand releasing the game in this state, they had all the time in the world and this is the shit tier product they chose to put out there
I'm thinking they actually got the big-wigs to listen about the state of the port now that the fans have spoken out about the shameful state of the game.
I wonder if their own internal reso fix is gonna fix the post process effects though? Or the outlines?
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