It's more balanced and competitive but it's not as fun.
My question is why?
Why go for the comp market when you have a mode that is dedicated to that (ToO) and the premise of the game fights with it's design.
I don't feel empowered in D2 pvp engagements, I feel like a opportunist more than anything. My foolproof method to pvp is to be up my teammates butts, letting them draw fire and then cleaning up after them.
If I encounter more than one ping on my radar and I'm in a bad spot for a 1v1 I turn around and haul ass to my teammates. The only time I feel a bit of that Destiny spark is when I pop my super or pick up heavy and even then getting a double or the rare triple doesn't feel that impressive when the maps are this small and the only recourse you have to shutdown a player on a run is teamshotting with a rifle or your own once-a-game super.
It also doesn't make sense they are trying to cater to the comp crowd when this game is still 30 FPS and p2p on console, sorry. Trials took off in D1 because it was cool seeing high level play from dudes a cut above in a game where everyone else already had the potential to be a badass warrior. What's the hook for trials this time around? It's gonna just be an even more restricted version of the already neutered pvp.
That's not even getting into the fact that outside of the pvp design, the exotics and legendaries people are playing with are snoozeworthy. The only ones that I kinda like are sunshot and vigilance wing but even then they hardly play differently than another purple scout or HC. One is just a slightly above normal HC with firefly, and the other is a Halo BR with better handling when your teammates get owned and health regen when they do it right next to you. If I die to another guy who probably runs nothing but Nameless Midnight in his PVE setup as well as his pvp build one more time...
I personally dont like it (and it has nothing to do with my personal performance, I've been doing pretty well on it)
I just find most matches really boring. I loved the chaotic flavor of D1 PVP. Mostly 6v6 combining abilities with the weapons made a fast paced fun mp. Now all modes result in slow matches and there is little combination of abilities with weapons. And the worst part is that this slower cooldown on abilities affects PVE too
I do think the heavy weapon ammo is an interesting change tho
I personally dont like it (and it has nothing to do with my personal performance, I've been doing pretty well on it)
I just find most matches really boring. I loved the chaotic flavor of D1 PVP. Mostly 6v6 combining abilities with the weapons made a fast paced fun mp. Now all modes result in slow matches and there is little combination of abilities with weapons. And the worst part is that this slower cooldown on abilities affects PVE too
I'm doing better in this new system when I play with my friends who are also good at the game, but at the same time it's so boring and stressful since it's so reliant on you actually being good now that even though we win I have a miserable time.
If you think D2 crucible is stressful id advise you never playing overwatch comp.
Who cares though? Just play it, if you win you win, if you lose you lose. You still get equal chance at loot.
If you think D2 crucible is stressful id advise you never playing overwatch comp.
Same man, I wish you where on Xbox during the D1 days. I put so many hours into D1 pvp even if it was unwieldy and not balanced, it's probably the closest I felt to the way MW2 felt at its height, if everything is broken nothing is broken.Yup. Instead of owning up to their own game, they tried to "fix" the MP and make it more "competitive", which wasn't going to happen with this kind of game, especially at 30FPS, which leaves us in the middle. And it negatively impacted PvE on top.
Honestly just don't want to waste any time on it, which is a shame. Most of my playtime in D1 was the Crucible.
Yea they need to separate the game modes into different playlists, and have a solo only playlist/game mode, and one that's 6v6 and more chaotic.Overwatch has a boatload of relaxing modes that complement comp though.
Destiny 2 does not. If I "just go and play it", well, it's still 4 v 4 slow ass matches. It's just boring.
Just give people a choice.
Custom games browser should be added for sure.I don't play overwatch, thanks for the suggestion though. I don't play competitive as a rule of thumb, I'd rather play community and silly games something that Bungie seems to have forgotten in PvP.
D2's Crucible PvP has been a hot topic lately. Many D1 veterans believe it is a huge downgrade due to the loss of 6v6, less special abilities, and power weapons not being as much as a focus this time around.
Others enjoy the PvP for its increased focus on positioning, teamwork and overall tightness.
They got a really good base right now. More options in terms of playlists, maps, modes etc would be good, but those will come in time. It has alot of potential and is worth investing in.
Haven't played enough D1 PVP to know if its inferior though
Do you enjoy Destiny 2's Crucible?
I sense we will reach a consensus soon in this thread.
I really prefer D1. The focus on D2s smaller teams gives like an inherent sweaty feeling where I have to be on top of my game constantly. While focusing on positioning and constantly moving as a team can be great fun, I prefer it in small doses as most of the time I'm just trying to veg out and kick back. While I could grind on D1 pvp for a few hours and have fun, after a few matches of D2 I start getting stressed out.
I liked that D1 had trials for when you wanted to go try hard and big dumb 6v6 matches for just being casual.
I also dislike the slow down on abilities and supers.. I feel like that's what made it unique.
Overall I'd like to see the return of 6v6 more than anything, and maybe the ability to choose your game type.