the difference between the order and watchdogs is that hte order is a ps4 exclusive so whatever goalposts fanboys have to move in order to shed the order on a good light will made. Whether it be "vision of the game" or "i love black bars" or "cinematic"
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Ubisoft: Watch_Dogs will run at 900p on PS4 and 792p on XB1, both at 30fps
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the difference between the order and watchdogs is that hte order is a ps4 exclusive so whatever goalposts fanboys have to move in order to shed the order on a good light will made. Whether it be "vision of the game" or "i love black bars" or "cinematic"
terrdactycalsrock
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I thought the black bars were actually rendered or some nonsense, meaning that it was esstianlly a part of a 1920x1080 resolution
Edit: I could be wrong, my statement was really more of a question
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Seriously. Wtf Ubisoft. Is the last gen version running at 360P?
They are rendered. They are rendered black, which doesn't cost anything and makes the image anamorphic (2.40:1) 1080p.
Actually, it's people like you who box developers with silly requirement. Not the people who ask for native resolution and great framerate.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
It's a cutting edge open world that is a beast of a game, not even taking into account the graphics. It's not Infamous.
Kssio_Aug
Member
I wont even defend that black bar subject on The Order. But, besides it is technically 900p (since the rest does not stress the console) The Order seems a very competent game visually, and a trully "next gen" title!
People are not arguing about the resolution only. But because of the game delay, promises and ending results (not even a next gen look).
psychotron
Member
The black bar thing only bugs me on The Order because I own a plasma, lol. I'll adjust my playtime accordingly.
Gen.Grievous
Member
Or maybe it's simply the truth but whatever you need to say to feel better about it I guess. It will have 4xMSAA, far more taxing than a few extra lines.
Beerman462
Member
I don't understand the people that are saying they won't get this game due to resolution and or frame rate. I love technology, I've had a gaming PC for 17 years now and upgrade regularly. I still play games on PS3. I played DS2 on PS3, because I didn't want to wait for the PC version. So I have wonder if people really aren't going to play this because it's not 1080/60. I feel either they weren't going to play it in the first place or they are just being hyperbolic.
I don't think its just the res/fps being turned down and thats got people a little annoyed. Its just yet another downgrade in someway. It was the delay, then the downgrade from the reveal, and now we learn it can't even do it at 1080p.
That and we're just noticing inFamous beats its vastly in terms of graphics, yet can still handle 1080p. That is what I've been fearing though, I hope devs don't see all these "outcrys" over resolution and tone down their visual effects in order to reach 1080p specifically.
Maybe at this point of time though... I'd like to think PS4 can handle the visual effects and 1080p, (if not then I'd rather have the visual effects), maybe later on in its life I can understand if it can't handle the visual effects + 1080p.
Whats been standing out for me this gen so far (at least for PS4), is the material textures and particle effects. inFamous blew me away with visual effects, but I also noticed material textures have got to the point where I can...sorta predict how that material feels or what that material is exactly.
That and we're just noticing inFamous beats its vastly in terms of graphics, yet can still handle 1080p. That is what I've been fearing though, I hope devs don't see all these "outcrys" over resolution and tone down their visual effects in order to reach 1080p specifically.
Maybe at this point of time though... I'd like to think PS4 can handle the visual effects and 1080p, (if not then I'd rather have the visual effects), maybe later on in its life I can understand if it can't handle the visual effects + 1080p.
Whats been standing out for me this gen so far (at least for PS4), is the material textures and particle effects. inFamous blew me away with visual effects, but I also noticed material textures have got to the point where I can...sorta predict how that material feels or what that material is exactly.
EmCeeGramr
Member
I get the feeling that like 95% of the preorder cancelled people were already disappointed by graphical downgrades or disappointing footage of Ubi World Game #27 and the resolution thing was the last straw, rather than people seriously cancelling based on resolution alone.
Windom Earle
Member
The Order thread shitting always works. Fascinating.
The reason I personally don't have an issue with The Order is because it's a standard aspect ratio (I watch a ton of movies) and will maintain the same IQ as a native 1080p output, although I would never call it 1080p. It's also rendering more pixels than 900p overall.
kitchenmotors
Banned
This is my situation. This was the last straw.
fluffydelusions
Member
But here, this game was delayed months...you'd think they would have worked it out. AC4 seemed rushed out the door
Arun1910
Member
Yeah... I don't know, I can't really justify it. Not only was the game delayed but it has had an apparent 5 years dev time.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Glad l cancelled my PC pre-order.
EmeraldSwords
Banned
This game is destined to fail.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
If you think this game won't sell, you might be spending to much time on gaf.
You think they downplayed the PS4 version so the One version didn't look as bad? Doubtful.
Multiplats are for gaming PC's and all the rest are console exclusives which are for my beloved P4. Never was going to tinker with Watch Dogs on a console anyways...so no loss here on my end. Hell i still dont really think the game is going to be that great..i may not even get it. I hope it turns out great but i have my doubts.
As for 900p...that is a resolution that is not hard to deal with imho..but anything lower is unplayable for me these days. 1600x900 is a resolution even i sometimes use on my PC when i want to use some high end AA in a game that hits the frames hard at 1080p..so i just go with 1600x900 which is 900p. My PC rig is more than capable for 1080p and 60fps with just about all games...running a 3770k@4.8thz now and my overclock on my video card is pretty sick... my 7970 Ghz Edition@1200mhz core/1600mhz memory gives me an impressive 4.4 teraflops of GPU power and its rock solid. I got lucky with the 7970 card i bought from Amazon last year...that sucker OC's so beautifully and gave me some future proofing since i use my gaming PC on a 55' Panny Plasma along side my PS4.
I honestly think the PS4 and a gaming PC is the best combo to have if you are going with one console this gen. Although i may pick up a refurbed Xbox One off Amazon later down the road if MS dishes out enough 1st party games that are simply too good to not play.
As for 900p...that is a resolution that is not hard to deal with imho..but anything lower is unplayable for me these days. 1600x900 is a resolution even i sometimes use on my PC when i want to use some high end AA in a game that hits the frames hard at 1080p..so i just go with 1600x900 which is 900p. My PC rig is more than capable for 1080p and 60fps with just about all games...running a 3770k@4.8thz now and my overclock on my video card is pretty sick... my 7970 Ghz Edition@1200mhz core/1600mhz memory gives me an impressive 4.4 teraflops of GPU power and its rock solid. I got lucky with the 7970 card i bought from Amazon last year...that sucker OC's so beautifully and gave me some future proofing since i use my gaming PC on a 55' Panny Plasma along side my PS4.
I honestly think the PS4 and a gaming PC is the best combo to have if you are going with one console this gen. Although i may pick up a refurbed Xbox One off Amazon later down the road if MS dishes out enough 1st party games that are simply too good to not play.
FunkyPajamas
Member
I really think it's odd that people continue to fall for Ubisoft games. Wasn't this pretty much the same thing that happened with Assassin's Creed back when it was first unveiled for Xbox 360?
Not to mention what the game ended up being in terms of gameplay mechanics, mission structure, etc.
Yeah, look at that trashcan AC3.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
what defines failure then?
GavinUK86
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flaxknuckles
Member
Oh really? How exactly, if you don't mind explaining yourself instead of vaguely shit-posting?
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Yup. I said before that it will bomb. It looks very bland and boring. All the stuff about downgrades in visuals wont help it either. I expect an Assassins Creed III reception some will love it but will also disappoint many.
Crimsonclaw111
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Confused Cheeseburger
Member
The cynicism in this thread is pretty amazing. It's not like there are a ton of other previews. but somehow this one outlet ( an outlet people have claimed is dodgey) is picked out as a barometer of truth. It might seem like I'm doing damage control but honestly I'm just trying to offer something to the discussion that isn't part of a jaded echochamber.
FunkyPajamas
Member
Precisely. At this point I cannot be hyped for a Ubisoft game.
EmeraldSwords
Banned
In terms of sales, it's definitely going to sell alot. But I'm awaiting for the eventual disappointment that will ensue within a couple of hours of gameplay. There has just been too much hype surrounding the game.
flaxknuckles
Member
Just because the graphics never end up as pretty as they did in the reveal?
The crappy gameplay probably doesn't help either.
What are you on. Far Cry 3 was one of my favorite games from 2012. I thought it was generally agreed upon that it was a solid game?
Red Steel is old enough at this point that it's not really a valid point. Red Steel 2 was pretty good, though.
I think it's more that Far Cry 3 and Red Steel both did not look like they looked at E3.
Do you even Metacritic? As if that game isn't going to get an 80+.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Thank you for not entirely dismissing what has been a a very rocky pre-release situation for many potential buyers. Personally good reviews could still save this game for me. But it'd have to be like higher than an 80 aggregate score at this point.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
So it comes back to graphics and not essentially the gameplay?
I think the point was more the way ubisoft advertised and promoted those games with lies (fake footage, bullshots etc)
Could also be that ubisoft have a very defined copy/paste open world template created for AC and seemingly used for everything else they've made since. Far cry 3 included. It gets pretty tiresome.
GavinUK86
Member
I dunno. I lost track of this thread ages ago, it moves so fast. I just saw it quoted and read through it and thought the guy who wrote it didn't have a clue.
flaxknuckles
Member
He didn't indicate that's what made him disappointed though. It looked like it was all about the graphics *shrug*
This thread is basically about the graphics.
While I can't comment on Red Steel I'd say Far Cry 3 looked better as a final product that the reveal. Sure the foliage is one scene looked insane but go look at the model of Vaas in the reveal and compare it to even the PS3 and 360 versions and they are arguably more detailed.
HighJumpBoots
Banned
the screen shot of your cancelled preorder literally made me laugh out loud, excellent stuff!
I'm not planning on picking this up, nor was I ever, but I think it's just ridiculous how they handled this game. It's starting to become typical Ubisoft with massive downgrades and mystery as to what the final game will look like and how it will perform.
The initial reveal was really, really great, but after they delayed the game, I pretty much knew it was full of crap. My hype died so fast after the delay, and never came back.
I'm just hoping they're a bit more open/honest about The Division.
I'm not planning on picking this up, nor was I ever, but I think it's just ridiculous how they handled this game. It's starting to become typical Ubisoft with massive downgrades and mystery as to what the final game will look like and how it will perform.
The initial reveal was really, really great, but after they delayed the game, I pretty much knew it was full of crap. My hype died so fast after the delay, and never came back.
I'm just hoping they're a bit more open/honest about The Division.
The fake visuals of E3 red steel wouldn't have helped save it from it's own awful gameplay. Same goes for far cry 2 and the BS surrounding that...etc etc.
Oh right, I should have read back through to see what they were talking about.
Yes, it's true, those games didn't look as nice in their final form as they did during the E3 demonstrations.