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UK set to trigger Brexit on March 29
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Why hide it now. It's done. There's no way back anymore. Might as well.
I don't believe he was the first to introduce bananas to Europe, but he does have a strain named after him (and obviously the most popular type).
Speaking of the Sun's front pages, tomorrows is especially gross..
I'm consistently impressed at the kind of gross shit that passes for newspapers in the U.K. Express, Daily Mail, Telegraph, Sun, it's all shite
RocknRola
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Speaking of the Sun's front pages, tomorrows is especially gross..
Holy crap... Thats... Thats something else.
Funky Papa
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Grotesque.Speaking of the Sun's front pages, tomorrows is especially gross..
Ghoulish.
Degenerate, even.
SporeCrawler
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Speaking of the Sun's front pages, tomorrows is especially gross..
so did may threaten with war? like seriously?
They seem to be in a competition with the Daily Mail for gross double feature front pages.
Speaking of the Sun's front pages, tomorrows is especially gross..
Delusional bullshit
Speaking of the Sun's front pages, tomorrows is especially gross..
"Your money or your lives". Obviously not a direct quote but it reads well when said by a highwayman in an old western, less so when said/implied by the PM of the UK.
I know I should never ever ever be surprised by The Scum newspaper, but the fact that they've plastered that over their front page as if something to be pleased about (as opposed to deeply ashamed) is remarkable, even for them.
May basically alluded to a few times in her letter that security 'information sharing, military etc.' should go hand in hand with a trade deal which basically means give us what we want or the terrorists and Russia can have their way with the EU.
That's disgusting. Especially after last weeks events in London. Imagine a EU service would know but withold information because of a bad trade dealSpeaking of the Sun's front pages, tomorrows is especially gross..
It is supposed to be a reference to British highwaymen from the 17th and 18th century which makes it all the more weird that the Sun are treating it positively. The headline seriously seems like someone trying to present May in the most negative light possible.
SporeCrawler
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okay so basically they will not only get out of EU but also out of NATO and stop cooperation between secret services. in other words: if russia invades the UK or if eurooean agencies come across any plans of terrorists regarding the UK the EU member countries will do nothing and vice versa. great plan
why not. thats what may wants? thats what the UK people voted for. more sovereinigty and independence and no outside interference.
SpideySenses
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The scary thing about that headline is that this is day one, God knows how low they'll go to shape the narrative when shit really hits the fan.
SporeCrawler
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EU are the bad guys that wants to punish UK. we need to retaliate with nukes
I know it's wishful thinking bullshit, but...
... I'm honestly starting to wonder if May isn't secretly still a committed Remainer. She's doing such an incredible job of fouling everything up that she'll be able to say at the last minute that she tried hard but it's going to be a disaster, so let's call the whole thing off.
Disclosure: During the EU ref my theory was that David Cameron secretly wanted Leave to win, because he was making such an arse of it. Maybe these people are just shit Prime Ministers.
Yeah that is kind of the thing, on terrorism they rely on information sharing and cooperation. On Russia they're bound by NATO treaties. It is a bit of a hollow threat. The real problem is that they would make it in the first place.
SporeCrawler
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UK is out. there is no way to rescind this procedure. UK will have to rejoin which will take decades (think turkey)
unless US, UK and russia form a new world order alliance (with UK being an annexure to US)
No, it can be cancelled, as long as the 27 other members agree to do so.
Would be quite ironic if the UK stops the process but in return had to drop all exceptions it received over the years
SporeCrawler
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so one veto is enough
That's what I'm hoping for. Give people enough time to chew on the shitshow, say it's absolute bonkers to do it, the EU has changed too which is very possible and maybe give another vote once it's done for going through with it. Slim chance but I need it. I don't think we are 100% out just yet. The winds can change and people realise it might be a very bad idea to leave.
No, exit is the default position, but the process can only then be scrapped with agreement of all parties. Should the UK ask for this, one veto is all it takes for it to stay out.
It's a good wake up call for the EU, actually.
It's been far too long that we've relied on the Britons who've been snooping big time on the transatlantic cable and doing all kinds of intrusive shit like infesting mainland telecom hardware with Trojans (less technical). Meanwhile mainland intelligence services think they're all hot stuff and up to date if one of the execs knows how to use their nephews iPad.
Ok, maybe not quite that bad, but we've been slacking off big time, at least in part due to UK being just that proactive in their data collection and snooping. Which was nonetheless worrying back then - and has become quite horrifying now when they are actually leaving the EU and thus, can stop pretending to play nice. Not like they got a scolding after the Trojan thing, but still, you know. It's all about appearances. It's one thing if your neighbour de-pants you in front of your crush, it's another thing entirely if they need to get a visa and plane ticket to do so.
chromatic9
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The terror threat could be incredibly small in 5-10 years time compared to now. Would be foolish to negotiate on that anyway.
Carl2291
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Could also be twice as bad.
As germany increases military and intelligence budget until 2024 and overtakes the UK in spending it's not the best bargaining chip anyway.
Especially if UK could lose vital intelligence on attacks aswell.
Funky Papa
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Could also make you look like a total piece of shit acting in bad faith in the light of recent events.
An ancient old East-German proverb says it best:
Gestern standen wir noch vor einem Abgrund. Heute sind wir schon einen großen Schritt weiter.
"Yesterday, we were standing before an abyss. Today, we already took a big step forward."
(probably not the best translation)
Well, lets get it over with and get the ball rolling for a united states of europe before 2050 now that the UK is out.
Since the medieval times it was in englands/britains interest to always divide the mainland and ally with the nation/block that holds another great power in check. In a matter they did this also in the EU, always trying to stop or delay further integration of the process of a united EU in all its areas.
Gestern standen wir noch vor einem Abgrund. Heute sind wir schon einen großen Schritt weiter.
"Yesterday, we were standing before an abyss. Today, we already took a big step forward."
(probably not the best translation)
Well, lets get it over with and get the ball rolling for a united states of europe before 2050 now that the UK is out.
Since the medieval times it was in englands/britains interest to always divide the mainland and ally with the nation/block that holds another great power in check. In a matter they did this also in the EU, always trying to stop or delay further integration of the process of a united EU in all its areas.
Aye. Westminster using 'security to prevent acts of terrorism' as a bargaining chip, a week after an act of terrorism at Westminster, is a special kind of head-scratcher.
It's already backfiring for her and creates a huge echo in the media. I expect some kind of backtracking or clarification from her tomorrow
SuperBowser
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Good thing for May that basic human decency or sense of irony is lacking in the British populace.
Funky Papa
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Rudd already tried to downplay it on TV. Too little, too late.
Brexit: EU condemns Mays blackmail over security cooperation.
Those idiots are way over their heads.
Carl2291
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It's not like May, the Tories or the British media actually care about looking like a piece of shit.
Needs Trump quotes for full effect: "Could"
Seriously, if UK were to withhold vital counter terrorism intelligence resulting in EU citizens coming to harm, things could get really ugly. And now that May has dropped these hints, even a random oversight or delay will send sparks flying, big time. Good job, really. Takes guts to not only poke the bee hive, but also feed it proactively with performance enhancing drugs.
No,yes,maybe.
I honestly have no clue and I live here. I logically lean to yes, but I would because I support it. Ask a unionist and they'd say no or maybe.
Who knows.
manzoman96
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Down the line I think this is a real possibility.
AlexFlame116
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I don't like this man. I don't like him at all.
I admire your restraint.
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