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Whats with the lack of gender/race diversity in the Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Roster?

Jawmuncher

Member
I agree with some of your opinions on this topic.

More gender/race diversity from both Capcom and Marvel in this title wouldn't hurt in the slightest I feel.

Yea, I feel rather shitty someone like Black Panther is relegated to DLC :/ but I'm glad he's gonna be featured in the game at all I guess (hope the plan for him to be released as DLC doesn't get cancelled or something)

Your observation re: in spite of what you consider SFV's flaws, you still felt it had a unique and diverse roster for the most part, in part achieved due to the smaller roster size if I understood that correctly? sort of makes me wanna check out SFV for myself...I remember trying it out in a demo kiosk in a Gamestop once, and I liked the gameplay alot! Felt more accessible to me than say various ver.s of SFIV to me, and I appreciate that as someone whose not that into Street Fighter...so me liking the gameplay of it, alongside what you consider a unique and diverse roster for the most part, sort of interest me in the game haha

The games base roster can be had for like $10 bucks now. So it's worth checking out for sure. Especially since you seemed to like it from the bit you played.
 

True Fire

Member
What happens when you pair two companies with diversity issues? Even more diversity issues!

(Marvel openly blames diversity for low sales, they 100% only dabbled in diversity because it was the cool thing)
 

Supast4r

Junior Member
All recognisable characters. We have to remember Capcom lacks a lot of current successful franchises besides Street Fighter. Its not like they are overflowing in audience favourites. The whole character selection sucks anyway. Its missing Storm and Phoenix which would have been great.
One of the most successful franchises is missing. Why would they cut Phoenix Wright? There have been 6 mainline games...
 
What happens when you pair two companies with diversity issues? Even more diversity issues!

(Marvel openly blames diversity for low sales, they 100% only dabbled in diversity because it was the cool thing)

gtfo of here with that alternative facts shit. That was debunked. Marvel's comics line is as diverse as it's ever been and about half of its best selling comics feature women/minorities.
 

2+2=5

The Amiga Brotherhood
This. It look like it was made from a free 3D asset.

This is a great one:

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Whats with the lack of race diversity in the Capcom vs SNK Roster? :p
 
And yet, look at the roster.

Yes, we're all looking at it. That's part of the reason that people are upset at the marvel side. If Marvel didn't have any worthwhile female characters that people want to see more of, they wouldn't be upset.

Go look at any other Marvel game made in the past few years (the lego ones, marvel heroes, any of their mobile games) and tell me that marvel is anti-diversity. MvC:I is the exception here.
 

Gator86

Member
The race thing isnt really much their fault since most characters on both sites with some exception are not much diverse and they going for he bigger names.

The abyssmal representation of females there is no excuse tho. 4 female characters in a 30 character roster is a joke.

Overall this and the fact that most character are boring and just from MvC 3 makes this such a garbage roster.

Especially Black Panther the only black character being DLC is so stupid.

Ignoring diversity in the past does not absolve you of ignoring diversity today. It's the definition of their fault.
 
Yes, we're all looking at it. That's part of the reason that people are upset at the marvel side. If Marvel didn't have any worthwhile female characters that people want to see more of, they wouldn't be upset.

Go look at any other Marvel game made in the past few years (the lego ones, marvel heroes, any of their mobile games) and tell me that marvel is anti-diversity. MvC:I is the exception here.

Then why did it happen here? Marvel can be diverse when it can but this is not a good look when this is the Marvel Roster compare to other rosters in previous games.
 

Supast4r

Junior Member
I don't think its as popular as you think it is in the West.
It's popular enough for them to keep making games for it. There isn't that many active francishes up capcoms sleeve these days. It's basically only: monster Hunter, ace attorney, dead rising and resident evil.
 
The games base roster can be had for like $10 bucks now. So it's worth checking out for sure. Especially since you seemed to like it from the bit you played.

For real?! Sounds like a steal to me at that price! Is this for PS4 ver.? I just checked Steam to see the price of the PC ver., and it's currently on sale there for $20 ish dollars...but it might be worth the extra $10 for free online multiplayer (assuming that the $10 price point you mentioned was for base roster of PS4 ver.)....hmmm...then again, the netcode could be shit and end up wasting my money...thankfully though, there are Steam refunds, so if I find my experience w/ online multiplayer there shitty within 2 hours, refunds are my best friend in that case! (That is, if I end up pulling the trigger on getting SFV)
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
I don't think its as popular as you think it is in the West.

Ace Attorney is one of the only notable franchises Capcom has which still gets regular releases. It's popular in Japan, but unfortunately not in North America. Still, it is definitely a more relevant series than a whole lot of the current representatives on the Capcom side.
 

DrArchon

Member
It's popular enough for them to keep making games for it. There isn't that many active francishes up capcoms sleeve these days. It's basically only: monster Hunter, ace attorney, dead rising and resident evil.

Seeing as how DR4 bombed super hard, I'd replace that with SF in your list. SFV may have underperformed, but it's seemingly done well enough in terms of DLC and esports money that they haven't given up on it.

But really it's mostly Monster Hunter that's keeping Capcom on life support right now.
 
gtfo of here with that alternative facts shit. That was debunked. Marvel's comics line is as diverse as it's ever been and about half of its best selling comics feature women/minorities.

Someone over at Marvel PR fucked up that statement regardless and got the company in heated water with comic fans. Marvel PR is known for fucking up a lot of things. It also helps if Marvel would stop cancelling their books starring minorities.

#RIPWasp
 
This game is like a nightmare you can't wake up from.

Honestly, I'm glad characters like Phoenix Wright, Viewtiful Joe and Amaterasu aren't in this. Imagine how hideous they would look in this game's awful realistic art style.
 

DrArchon

Member
I’m really hoping journalist presses them on this. It’s really sad, and they should be forced to confront it.

Honestly I feel like there are two kinds of gaming journalists when it comes to fighting games. You've got normal journalists who are like "Hey a new fighting game is out I guess, everyone seems excited so I guess it's good? I've got other stuff to cover so whatever", and then there are enthusiast ones from places like SRK who only really care about gameplay.

So I fully expect no one to hold Capcom's feet to the fire over this.
 

gafneo

Banned
I was just thinking to myself how Street Fighter V is the most diverse game I've played. Maybe the team making Infinitie has less diversity in the work place & didn't realize the roster so far.
 
I understand the complaint but it's Capcoms game they can put who ever they want at least for the capcom side. As for the marvel side well that's all up to them.
 

TreIII

Member
people ask for diversity then dont want one of the most iconic black character in MCU.
DC is having the same problem anyway, otherwise they wouldnt be pushing cyborg so hard in everything from Justice league to Injustice.

And my thing is...the current quagmire with trying to make Cyborg a thing could have likely been avoided if they would just get over Cyborg and went for any PoC Green Lantern, ranging from John Stewart, Simon Baz and/or Jessica Cruz, instead.

Them continuing to blackball Green Lantern in the cinema-verse, mainly because of the stench from the 2011 flick, is just hurting WB/DC more than it does anyone else.

DMC could have had a cool black female character if it weren't for the dumb shit twist in DMC4.

And I still say that Lucia from DMC2 got a raw deal. Being in a bad game that's the undisputed black sheep of the franchise, shouldn't be the reason that she gets thrown out with the bathwater.

Either way, we should have had a PoC added to Dante's "femme fatale" squad a long before now..
 
Screw diversity.

The 88 in your user name is fitting.

The fact that there are individually more green, red, purple, blue, raccoon, and on fire characters than brown and black put together should be an indication of how fucking stupid this is. If skin color is arbitrary, they could've had some variety that's at least representative of people who might buy the game.

Anyway, yeah it's very reflective of both companies not having very diverse rosters, but even so, there's characters they could've included but for some reason didn't.

No Dhalsim, no Rashid, no Laura? Black Panther as DLC? lol

Meh at this game from everything they've shown.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Hm? Very interesting choice of words bruh.

Is black panther confirmed?
Well, we had voices when voting for characters, nows the time to let your voices, again be heard. I REALLY want Luke Cage in a fighting game. He could play similar to Colossus.
I doubt Marvel takes those kinds of votes into consideration for their side.
 
Capcom took weird steps backwards on this stuff this type this generation. They were never like super great but SF4 was pretty tame until the final patch (which came out in the XB1/PS4 era if I remember correctly) but SFV is like Dead or Alive vs SF4.

I don't know if the barely any women rule is a Marvel thing, a Capcom thing, or two birds of a feather flocking together but it seems weird. Black Widow not being in this makes no sense considering how many billion dollar movies she's been prominent in. If it counts for anything, the women in MvC aren't porned up like SFV. Maybe that's progress or maybe they're saying if they can't look like porn stars then they won't be in the game.
 

JBourne

maybe tomorrow it rains
If this becomes a big deal and enough push is made then the roster is hopefully updated:

Miles Morales
Ms Marvel
Sakura
Spider-Gwen or Silk
Agent Venom
Kaine
Sean

I heard a rumor they can't use X-Men characters but even then plenty of options still exist.

A Sean x Miles teamup would be nice.

It's probably an issue of needing to get the game out but this infinity stones angles gives them to leeway to pull from anywhere if they need to.
Silk could be such an interesting addition to the game, with the nature of her webspinning. They could do so much with her.

Ms. Marvel, too. So much potential with her powers.
 
It's pretty upsetting. I hope Black Panther releases soon after the game launches, at least.

When you put it into perspective like that its actually crazy that there are only 4 female characters. What the hell Capcom.
 
Im glad Skrulls aren't in this I dislike that race. Give me the Fantastic Four as individual characters rather than Super Skrull. Im surprised they didn't shove an Inhuman into the game maybe do another animal being and put in LockJaw.
 

Neonep

Member
Im glad Skrulls aren't in this I dislike that race. Give me the Fantastic Four as individual characters rather than Super Skrull. Im surprised they didn't shove an Inhuman into the game maybe do another animal being and put in LockJaw.

Iron Fist & Daredevil are more important than any of the characters you mentioned.
 
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