GoofsterStud
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Must be your PS3's wifi or interference with your wifi devices nearby. I have a multiple launch PS3s with no problems regarding wifi.
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Xbone PR: the 60 Minute Family Plan Revelation
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Must be your PS3's wifi or interference with your wifi devices nearby. I have a multiple launch PS3s with no problems regarding wifi.
We don't all have the same Internet. My comment wasn't meant to say that PSN sucks. I was unaware that you could log out of your PsN account and still have the game downloading. I'm used to my 360 and having to be on my account to do pretty much anything.
My PS3 was nothing but a blu-ray box till MS decided they didn't want me as a customer anymore. I've since blown the dust off and signed for Ps+
Wickerbasket
Member
PSN downloads are embarrassingly slow for me. Depending on the mood PSN is in, a 17GB file can take all night and all morning to download.
Whereas on Steam, it's a couple hours worse case scenario.
I just figured the PS3 had shit wifi, but maybe they are throttling speeds.
Edit: I've tried changing wifi channels on my router before to solve the issue, but nothing helped.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Are you from the future, how is it over there, how's Killzone and Driveclub PS+ Edition
hehehehehe
Ah well I apologize then I thought you were making a blanket statement that PSN speeds are slow.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
I'll take my Fuck Off and I like it!
Miles Quaritch
Member
The second update from CBoAT, how does that make sense now they've dropped DRM entirely?
Am I missing some vital context?
Am I missing some vital context?
That's how Day 1 digital works.
It downloads it onto your console and unlocks once it hits midnight
Because although it was just a demo, it could only be played by 10 people on your 'family' list. That would require authentication which they have pulled, so it isn't possible.
They could extend that to 'everyone gets one hour of play' but presumably they couldn't get agreements from publishers to do that, which is why they restricted it to family.
I do wonder whether it was 60 minutes per day though..
Wickerbasket
Member
I think he was just confirming that family sharing was a 60 min demo.
Unless you're talking about a different post I missed.
Wickerbasket
Member
Yeah, I've never bothered with the feature on PS+.
An hour's play doesn't seem worth the bother when it takes you longer than that to download the game.
I can see why it would be good for someone who was on the fence about buying the game anyway though.
Zok310
Banned
Dear God, they really planned on launching the xbo as fucked as they could make it huh?
I mean the fact that a few people sat down and designed this crap would make me ask if MS even know what the hell they are doing or who they are trying to do it to?
No one in the xbo project meetings thought to ask "how the fuck are we going to sell this to 19-35 year old males?"
WTF!?
I mean the fact that a few people sat down and designed this crap would make me ask if MS even know what the hell they are doing or who they are trying to do it to?
No one in the xbo project meetings thought to ask "how the fuck are we going to sell this to 19-35 year old males?"
WTF!?
Buba Big Guns
Banned
No wonder they scrapped the entire thing...the backlash would have been even worse than what they already got.
MS has lost all their trust.
MS has lost all their trust.
I wonder how they would have explained this had they left people to discover the restriction of the family plan when they actually bought the thing, as it looked like they were going to. Not once did they directly, 100% mention that it was limited to a certain time - would they have just left that until after launch and gone "whoops, yeah we forgot to mention that! Silly us eh!"?
If they would have done, what other rules and restrictions could they be hiding behind a wall of misinformation?
If they would have done, what other rules and restrictions could they be hiding behind a wall of misinformation?
Neuromancer
Member
It's old. I'm not sure why it's in the OP.
Sidewinder
Member
Lol at "sharing", it's more like family cockteasing.
threetri333
Banned
So in general, we won?
It doesn't seem that disc ownership is worth trading for the one hour demos. Is that how it was?
It doesn't seem that disc ownership is worth trading for the one hour demos. Is that how it was?
Aye, it's from the pre-E3 TEH FIANAL LOVDOWN. I think OP is saying that this is what CBOAT was alluding to.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I was referring to the second post about the DRM being much worse, but I followed it back and it's an old post.
Yeah, it's pretty misleading truth be told.
Okay, that makes sense. Some context would be nice instead of just quoting old posts that give conflicting info.
Wickerbasket
Member
My bad, I forgot that was even in the OP; I just clicked on CBOAT's most recent post history and thought you were talking about his most recent post.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/21/4451172/xbox-engineer-disappointed-pastebin-note-rumored-features
Sounds like it wasn't finalized and that you could still play through a game in 1-hour increments. Would have been more than a mere demo.
Sounds like it wasn't finalized and that you could still play through a game in 1-hour increments. Would have been more than a mere demo.
All of this feels like Microsoft assumed the 75 million 360 owners were guaranteed XBO buyers. They developed policies based on locking in the 75 million buyers to squeeze them for cash as if being an MS customer was a foregone conclusion. If backward compatibility with everyone's 360 purchases was there, maybe. Especially Kinect fans who already have Kinect games and would like to play them with a more accurate Kinect system. Lost opportunity.
But it all feels like they assumed the same customers would automatically follow even though they gave no previous generation tie-in or incentive to keep them except gamertag and achievements. Or maybe they thought that was enough.
But it all feels like they assumed the same customers would automatically follow even though they gave no previous generation tie-in or incentive to keep them except gamertag and achievements. Or maybe they thought that was enough.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Just read about this... it's ridiculous. I wouldn't put it past scumbag MS to try and pull something like this, though. So yeah, in the end - the noise that the gaming community made, as well as pressure from Sony made MS pull the plug on this crap.
Wickerbasket
Member
That still sounds terrible.
I wonder what the reasoning was for the hourly caps, none of it seems to make sense.
Because there was never any intent to let you get away with one game purchase for even two people in remote locations, much less 10.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Kinect has to match face with Live Login or it fails to authenticate.
Miles Quaritch
Member
It's cool, the lack of context threw me is all.
This hardly sounds any better. I'm pretty disappointed by how this has turned out. Playing game in hour increments is just ridiculous. No wonder they wouldn't provide any further details or clarify the policy, it was a dead duck, nothing more.
fart town usa
Gold Member
Holy SHIT Microsoft.
I don't want ANYTHING to do with you anymore.
I'm not sure if I even want to complete my 360 backlog
Oh man, this made me chuckle quite hard.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Great so they would cock-block you 25%+ into the game, what a great trade-off for not being able to use your selling/buying/trading/lending option
Oh hey family share introduces 1 hour block that you can purchase for $4.99-$19.99+
Like Billy's library, want to enjoy his game, buy an extra 5 1 hour blocks for $19.99
MS Going LiveJasmin confirmed!
They only have like 48million live users... so close to 30+ million were Offline... LOL
Were MS ready to give up on that chunk of the pie?
Remember that was where the military members are grouped into
They thought about ways to limit the system so that sharing wouldn't get too powerful. Who knows how exactly it would have turned out.
If they implemented these limitations it's not clear if those would have worked the same for every game or if publishers would have had a say in it (maybe different limitations depending on publisher or type of game; cf used games).
And they were also looking into offering lending after launch. A digital lending system next to a limited sharing system still would have been great.
Hypereides
Member
Well then. That's very deceptive of Microsoft if they planned on selling it to the public as full game access.
I guess the 10 shares function was just overglorified.
I guess the 10 shares function was just overglorified.
I'm the only one 100% not caring about this?
It's a done deal, there is no source.
Now that they tested the waters though, we might see a future where they implement this idea to be something a little bit more desirable
This could turn out to be something good. Now let's talk about what Microsoft and the XBOX division need to do about their horrible communication.
It's a done deal, there is no source.
Now that they tested the waters though, we might see a future where they implement this idea to be something a little bit more desirable
This could turn out to be something good. Now let's talk about what Microsoft and the XBOX division need to do about their horrible communication.
Wickerbasket
Member
They could still offer a digital lending system on their digital downloads, but I have a feeling they'd rather just give a "fuck you" to buyers.
To an extent. I still had Live Gold while in the Navy. I just lost months of access when I was offline on deployment.
So that military statistic isn't guaranteed.Yes, because Microsoft would implement these DRM measures to stop people from selling their games and then add a function that one person can share his game with 10 people.
Now, considering your post history, don't even know why I'm bothering.
need a flowchart.
if ifs and buts were coconuts... Any time there is 'discussion', assume MS are going to err on the side of the publishers. Maybe you'd get an hour slot per day. Maybe after 3 such slots you'd be forced to choose to buy the game. Maybe maybe maybe.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
To an extent. I still had Live Gold while in the Navy. I just lost months of access when I was offline on deployment.
So 75 million consoles sold, yet 46 million Live users
Where are the other 29 million, I know RROD didn't do that much of a massive damage
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming...ling-defense-for-the-always-online-next-xbox/
maybe some people like to just put a disc in and play? Not that MS seemed to care.
Neuromancer
Member
Xbox One Hour
Wickerbasket
Member
Well, my brother's one of the "unconnected" 360 users; the wifi doesn't reach his bedroom in his house and that's where his 360 is set up.
He mainly uses it for single player games like Assassins Creed and playing Fifa with his friends.
There's certainly people who don't bother with the online features.
The family thing is not that outrageous for remote access to someone else's games. But holy shit at tgat one hour friend thing.
If that is true then I wish MS had stuck to their guns and crashed the Xbox brand so hard that they and their toxic practices were removed from gaming forever.
If that is true then I wish MS had stuck to their guns and crashed the Xbox brand so hard that they and their toxic practices were removed from gaming forever.