SpiceMelange
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Pretty sure I had my momentum kept when using the morph ball button in the air
Edit: Yup, even made a quick youtube video
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Pretty sure I had my momentum kept when using the morph ball button in the air
Edit: Yup, even made a quick youtube video
Animal
Banned
Thanks. I am really enjoying this game now!
Personally the physics in the newer 2D games never really made sense to me. The jump mechanics seem overly rigid for a series that isn't really about extremely tight platforming challenges. Floaty jumps with more control in the air are pretty conducive to exploration and abusing stuff like wall jumps, grapple beam, etc.
dangeraaron10
Unconfirmed Member
Oof. There's another shinespark barrier in the industrial complex. It's on a ceiling in a vertical room where you fight a Metroid, it's directly right of the sand filled room with the spiky red shelled turtle things. I don't have the foggiest notion on how to get this one.
Edit: Actually, I think I can nail it if I time my jump right. Let's see if this works.
Edit twice: NAILED IT!
Edit: Actually, I think I can nail it if I time my jump right. Let's see if this works.
Edit twice: NAILED IT!
Head.spawn
Junior Member
I'm so glad this project made it to the end. From what I've played so far, everything is quite nice. Excellent job!
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Odd. Are you using a controller for that? If I try it, without holding sideways I immediately just stop rather than decelerating to a stop.
dangeraaron10
Unconfirmed Member
Tips to get past this? I definitely don't have enough room to speed boost past this, but I'm sure I'm missing something.
Not sure. But you see the item in the dark blue corridors? The one juuuuust left of the Savepoint leading into the industrial complex with all the sand? How do you get? This one is stumping me.
If I remember right there's a false ceiling in those tunnels. Use Spiderball and you should go up into it. That one stumped me for a bit too.
I can't make out where you are on the map. Is it the hallway with the four arrows that indicates the marker? Anyway, I haven't gone back there since I got the Power Bombs but... you know, it's entirely possible that some passages are one-way only. Maybe you're not meant to go in, but come out from somewhere else? This happens quite a few times in Metroid games.Tips to get past this? I definitely don't have enough room to speed boost past this, but I'm sure I'm missing something.
Well, in any case I don't remember ever going in there.
dangeraaron10
Unconfirmed Member
Thank you friend, I'll try this right away.
aaaaand got. Thanks! Didn't even need the spider ball since I already have bouncy ball.
I didn't have to change any settings with mine. I just plugged it in and it works.
There's two places I've found already that there is Shinespark blocks in areas where you don't have place to run. The one Eyothrie posted and one in the dark breeding area in the same region:
2nd image seems to stump a lot of people. Since you're already in that little space then the next step is easy: hop back above where there's ample room and charge up a Shinespark. Then drop down and immediately launch yourself at the wall on the right.
Check the last two pages for the webm that shows you how to do the shinespark if you've never done it before.
That Samus is a menace. Something needs to be done about her!
SpiceMelange
Member
Use the morph ball button, it's much better and quicker than the traditional 2 down presses.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Huh, works with a morph ball button. Thanks!
Still prefer Super Metroid's physics, though. 
Tips to get past this? I definitely don't have enough room to speed boost past this, but I'm sure I'm missing something.
You have have speed boost coming into the room.
Seven Force
Banned
Woke up this morning, finished off the rest of the game, came in at 5:25:01.
Said fuck that, and speedran the game right after, this time, cutting it down to a little over 2:46
Fan-fucking-tastic game. I think I actually prefer it to Zero Mission. The pacing's great (This is something important for Metroid games in general), the new additions were great and didn't feel out of place at all, and it did all this while maintaining the atmosphere of the original game. (One of Zero Mission's bigger failings, IMO)
Gonna probably do a Hard Mode run at some point. Even though it's unofficial, it might just be my favorite Metroid game behind Super and Prime 1.
I love little continuity details like that.
Said fuck that, and speedran the game right after, this time, cutting it down to a little over 2:46
Fan-fucking-tastic game. I think I actually prefer it to Zero Mission. The pacing's great (This is something important for Metroid games in general), the new additions were great and didn't feel out of place at all, and it did all this while maintaining the atmosphere of the original game. (One of Zero Mission's bigger failings, IMO)
Gonna probably do a Hard Mode run at some point. Even though it's unofficial, it might just be my favorite Metroid game behind Super and Prime 1.
Love the bit of Super Metroid's opening narration at the end along with the "To be Continued" bit.
*facepalm*
I didn't clear the space above completely, so i didn't see you could charge the shinespark there. Thanks.
EDIT:
Oh shit, I got it. Thanks.
To be more specific:
Select the Power Bomb, open the door. To the left there's a floating platform. Run trough it, charge the Shinespark, drop a little and use it to enter the room. Charge it again immediately when you land on the slope. Drop down, use the powerbomb, use the Shinespark.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
Caught me by surprise, too.
By far the most amazing part of the game for me currently.
Btw, one thing I REALLY didn't like was at the part with
the mining robot thing that comes to a halt at a green crystal. I was stuck there and didn't know what to do for an hour or so, until I bombed the floor out of boredom and a hole broke open. It was just one specific tile that's not even marked with a crack or something.
Strange to see people shit on Super's physics in this thread. SM by far has the best physics in a Metroid game. You just have to watch a speed run to see how the physics benefit the gameplay.
I think a lot of people are confusing physics vs their capacity to control Samus within them. SM plays like a dream.
Anywho, I really can't wait to jump into this. It's been way too long since Nintendo gave us a 2D Metroid. Glad to hear this is quenching thirst across the board!
I think a lot of people are confusing physics vs their capacity to control Samus within them. SM plays like a dream.
Anywho, I really can't wait to jump into this. It's been way too long since Nintendo gave us a 2D Metroid. Glad to hear this is quenching thirst across the board!
SpiceMelange
Member
Nah, I'm fully aware of how SM works. I prefer faster. tighter, snappier physics than huge vertical jumps with huge momentum.
Necromanti
Member
How the heck did you get the item in the top right (in the room that required the energy sphere in the Golden Temple?) I got stuck there.
DId it create a SweetFX folder where the game is installed ? There a file called SweetFX_settings.txt in it and you may have to tinker with it. Make sure the value on the #define USE_ADVANCED_CRT line is set to 1 (or the Pixel_Art CRT line if you prefer).
I don't know for sure. Here's the settings I use, if it helps:
It took a bit of tinkering, changing some values just to see if it improved the visuals (I'm not too familiar with this stuff). At first the text looked bad for me too, and I think you have to increase the CRT Resolution just a bit.
I'm gonna decrease the curve value a bit cuz it may be a bit too curvy right now. I kinda like it like this though, my old CRT was almost a balloon.
Adam_Vania
Banned
dang yall this game is sick. the art. the controls. the sound design! that metallic explosion when u shoot one of those eyed wall turrets sooooo sick. so satisfying. the music is really nice too.
if this team made a Castlevania game i would lose it!
if this team made a Castlevania game i would lose it!
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
How on earth do you do this room with all the dash bits?
I've tried saving the shinespark and dropping down into the pit, but... I don't get it :S
I've tried saving the shinespark and dropping down into the pit, but... I don't get it :S
TheMoon
Member
I think you need to remember that this is a remake of a game that already exists. Not an original game designed by them.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Fusion does not have momentum, at all, except coming out of a run. In Fusion, jump in the air from a standing start, then press left. You will immediately go from zero horizontal speed to Samus' max horizontal speed from a standing jump - the acceleration is instantaneous. Conversely, go from standing jump to hold left to switching to hold right. Samus will immediately go from full speed left to full speed right without having any need to decelerate in one direction into accelerating into the other. It's really noticeable and I've known a lot of people to complain about it.
I think the only thing missing so far for me is this:
anyone knows how to get it?
anyone knows how to get it?
http://gfycat.com/WaryFreeHomalocephale
Kamina
Golden Boy
Go the way you take when you are getting the varia upgrade, the room just before, right after the waterpipe secrion, there is a bombable rock very high up through which you can get into this maze area.I think the only thing missing so far for me is this:
anyone knows how to get it?
SpiceMelange
Member
I'm not saying Fusion have momentum, perhaps you right my post wrong, the "huge vertical jumps with huge momentum" was in reference to SM
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Wait wut. Am I missing an upgrade that lets you keep shinespark?
dangeraaron10
Unconfirmed Member
Just got to
the Tower. Them Zetas are no joke and it's basically certain doom if you let it pin you to the wall.
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Deleted member 231381
Unconfirmed Member
Ah, sorry, I misread.
I do encourage you to try playing Super Metroid Redesign, though. Best of both worlds!
Necromanti
Member
I managed to make it past the first two sets of speed dash walls when you jump down, but then I'm stuck where you need to use a dash in a morph ball space...How on earth do you do this room with all the dash bits?
I've tried saving the shinespark and dropping down into the pit, but... I don't get it :S
EDIT: Okay, I saw the gif above...How are you maintaining the shine spark after doing a dash!? It looks like I had the right idea at the end, though, but I always just got hit the wall and not have the ball follow the windy part before.
I did a post+gfy explaining the shinespark mechanics about two pages back!
There it is, with the gfy explaining it all:
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=212741637
And an addendum to that post: you can hold down Jump longer to gain a bit more height before Shinesparking. In the tunnel in which you need to ballspark however you want to keep as low as you can to hit the slope, not the ceiling!
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Yeah same. I get within a mm with charge still on but... not enough.
Thanks I got it.
TyMiles2012
Member
Might as well download before the Nintendo ninjas show up.
Andrew Evenstar
Member
I remember playing Metroid 2 when it was out on Super Gameboy. The game back then was awesome. I love fighting against the various metroids.
I have known about this remake for so many years. I can't wait to start this very soon.
Anyone who needs an snes controller for pc may want to pick this up.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002B9XB0E/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I have known about this remake for so many years. I can't wait to start this very soon.
Anyone who needs an snes controller for pc may want to pick this up.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002B9XB0E/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Adam_Vania
Banned
who cares if it is a remake. Metroid itself was a re-imagining of Alien and a bunch of sci fi stuff. all art is influenced by something that came before it. the team behind AM2R are virtuosos in the field of making games.
compare this to Metroid II. this basically is an original game.
lol i played the original on Gameboy back when you couldn't even SEE Super Mario Land without holding it at the exact perfect angle if the sun was out. i remember not being able to see outside of a very tiny window, making it easy to get lost simply jumping from one ledge to the next. not to mention the lack of a map?
i remember beating that game but also that it was very frustrating at times. this plays like a dream. plus it has a million little details that ARE unique to this specific remake. things like hanging off ledges. not having to even DO anything to save the game if u want to just jump on the pedestal and wait a half a second.
Hit right immediately after hitting (not holding) jump and that should do the trick!
